Ya Bezzer! Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Exactly - found their level and good luck to them. Forbes was miles ahead of anyone in our team in the cup match. Contrast Forbes passing ability with, well, any of our midfield that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Forbes was miles ahead of anyone in our team in the cup match. Contrast Forbes passing ability with, well, any of our midfield that night. Grimshaw? He was at least keen that night, but his passing was atrocious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Darren smith was the guy I thought would always make it shame injuries hampered him. Seriously? The only guy i know who thought he was going anywhere was one of his mates from school. He was decent for a young lad, but never had what it took to make it at Motherwell, never mind a higher level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StipeIsGod Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 I liked Darren Smith. He always looked more of a trier than a player. Nice boy but nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmostFrazzled Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Mind when Adam Coakley was bigged up to be the next big thing? He was pish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Forbes for me, aye. His passing is unreal and has a beauty of a shot on him. However it takes more than that to even be a solid and lasting top level player in Scotland. Overall lack of pace and ability/lack of want to put a decent tackltacklunfortunately meant he didnt make it with us or Thistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Can't say he's been a failure and he's better than anyone at the club currently but when I first saw Mark Reynolds I was absolutely convinced he was a future Scotland centre half. Didn't quite live up to that early promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky79 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Ross Forbes defintely looked like he had talent, but it wasn't quite enough. It one thing not being able to get about the park like a young PhIl O'Donnell but he looked like he was towing a caravan and whilst I agree there should and is a lot more to being a footballer than their engine if he'd had the talent required he'd have got past that impediment and thrived regardless. As it was he could on a good day brighten up a game but he wasn't a Scottish Pirlo lost to the game. Seems to be doing pretty well for Morton now so least he making a living. Mark Fitzpatrick I genuinely thought would be at least the next Lasley, seemed really similar when he came through, never looked a superstar but commited, seemed to have no fear and was decent at everything. Never seemed quite as confident in himself after an illness, was it glandular fever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Given the overemphasis on speed and power we have in Scottish football, I'm surprised Forbes couldn't find a coach to add a yard or two to his game. I know you can't create natural speed from nowhere, but you look at the training a team like Arsenal does to build their players athletically as well as their ball skills, and you wonder if something like that could have helped him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Given the overemphasis on speed and power we have in Scottish football, I'm surprised Forbes couldn't find a coach to add a yard or two to his game. I know you can't create natural speed from nowhere, but you look at the training a team like Arsenal does to build their players athletically as well as their ball skills, and you wonder if something like that could have helped him out. It definitely would have. Wether he wanted to do it or not would be a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 According to McCall on the TV a few weeks back, it certainly wasn't lack of application or desire that held Forbes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I'm sure it was Dundee utd , wishart was set to sign for before his 'glamour' move to st mirren. Yes, I thought it was Dundee United he was lined up to go to. I thought it was reported the club had accepted a £400k bid but he didn't want to go there as he wanted to go to St. Mirren as he supported them and the club were miffed as they were only offering £275k. We had to accept the lower fee as he had his heart set on going there. Somebody mentioned Greg Denham and his horror show against Ayr - he was one I really had high hopes for until then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Whilst the club were certainly unhappy with the fee they got from Wishart's transfer, if I remember rightly the fee was set by a transfer tribunal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 That rings a bell now you mention it. Were St. Mirren offering less than they ended up paying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan83 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I always thought Stuart Carswell has something about him. He had a bit of dig and I thought he could have made it further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Remember Dougie Ramsay? Looked a decent prospect and scored an absolute belter at Dunfermline one day. Vanished without a trace shortly afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 That rings a bell now you mention it. Were St. Mirren offering less than they ended up paying? To be honest I can't remember the sums offered or demanded. I mind final fee of something like £285,000 left McLean fizzing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Remember Dougie Ramsay? Looked a decent prospect and scored an absolute belter at Dunfermline one day. Vanished without a trace shortly afterwards. Ramsay came into the team at the same time as Lasley and I remember thinking he looked a much better prospect than Keith. Shows what I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Although he went on to haver a fairly decent career sadly cut short by injury, always thought Stevie McMillan was destined for great things. Same can also be said about Hammell to an extent - while he has had a solid career with us, when he first burst through he stood out for me and thought he go on to be an International. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Verheul Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 A name that I doubt few will remember but is ingrained in my memory as my pals used it as a stick to beat me with when it came to judging players potential is paul shepstone. If I remember right wee tam signed him from Blackburn rovers and I'm sure we had a football manager style inter squad friendly in the pre-season and this guy ran riot. I went to a few reserve games that season and he always did the same. I don't think he ever made an appearance (I can't be bothered checking on Wikipedia) but as I say I told everyone who'd listen this guy was the next big thing. In my defence I must have been about 12 at the time. Eta he did make one appearance and was never seen again. He also had an England youth cap so he must have had something about him at one point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhandluc Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/business/paul-says-knickers-to-football-3092235 Thought he had played more than once, but I'm probably talking pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammer Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Two guys I used to watch in the reserves in the 80's that I thought were great but never made it were Jim Gardiner and Mark Caughey. I remember Caughey scoring a hat-trick against Celtic and he was on fire that day. I spoke to Jim Gardiner years ago when he was playing for Swansea and he wasn't very complimentary of wee McLean. Said it was him that never really give him a chance in the first team, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldel Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Dougie Ramsey is working as a surveyor in the Rail industry and was still playing Junior football last I spoke to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'd contest that Gardner has a fair deal to thank McLean. He might have had one of two outings beforehand but he had the faith on him to throw him into the Cup winning team and be involved in Europe. Gardner had pace to burn but at times he looked like a frightened rabbit when possession of it. I agree there was unfulfilled potential there but would argue Jim didn't make the most of his opportunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Dougie Ramsey is working as a surveyor in the Rail industry and was still playing Junior football last I spoke to him. I'm sure I read he was at Troon but that was a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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