Bigeeze Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Stephen Pearson is a much dirtier player than Keith Lasley. This . L as at least tends not to runs half the oark to get involved in stuff that's got Badge all to do with him either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergi4 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Heard £1.6m for Marvin, definitely couldn't turn that down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 2 years left on his deal. So you would think we wouldnt be letting him go on the cheap this time around. I would be cock a hoop with 1.6m. That's right - cock a hoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 That'll be the debt to Les cleared... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 £1.6m?? Has someone been sniffing glue? I think Johnson's a smashing player but no better than Murphy was when he left. I know their contract situations are different but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 put in a bit of context QPR got £5.5m for the player they're looking to replace. Different leagues, inflated prices I know but is there that much difference between Johnson and Matt Phillips? Or closer to home did Celtic not pay £1.5m for Stuart Armstrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Would not take less than a million for Johnson will only get better and feel he is better than Jamie was when he left and as he's just moved recently for 2 million in sure we will get 7 figures now or in January if he keeps improving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Given the amount of money going into English football this year (£30mil bids for Troy Deeney FFS) hopefully Scottish clubs as a whole hold out for better deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergi4 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 That'll be the debt to Les cleared...Maybe.Did we not pay a fee for Marvin? Guessing if we get a good fee, surely the manager would be allowed to reinvest in the next Marvin as our own talent pool are still a bit down the line before we get a saleable mfc-grown player. Also while £1.6 was scoffed by a couple (let's not debate too hard with all the trolls), theres about £300k difference between top 6 and bottom 6 in prize money, with bottom 6 likely to get fewer games against the 'big teams' (150k quoted by thistle for 2 less gates with celtic/rangers?) - so selling a key player has to be for the right price in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinnae-punt-it Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Maybe. Did we not pay a fee for Marvin? Guessing if we get a good fee, surely the manager would be allowed to reinvest in the next Marvin as our own talent pool are still a bit down the line before we get a saleable mfc-grown player. Also while £1.6 was scoffed by a couple (let's not debate too hard with all the trolls), theres about £300k difference between top 6 and bottom 6 in prize money, with bottom 6 likely to get fewer games against the 'big teams' (150k quoted by thistle for 2 less gates with celtic/rangers?) - so selling a key player has to be for the right price in my opinion. Yeah we need to guard against doing what Utd did i.e. sell your best players and not adequately replace them, ultimately leading to relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 £1.6m?? Has someone been sniffing glue? I think Johnson's a smashing player but no better than Murphy was when he left. I know their contract situations are different but still... The contract situation is one of the most important parts of the deal. For once we are in a great and strong postion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last post by: Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Papers read here and print what they see without checking the facts. soooo.... here goes...... Marv is a steal at 1.6m we should hold out for 4 million with a 25% sell on clause. Not a penny less. and if you think McManus is leaving for anything short of 1.25M then you have another thing coming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 The transfer fees paid for two different players doesn't really indicate who the better player is. The fee relates to age, the time left on their contract, how long is left on the contract, whether the player is in demand, and how inclined the club is to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Would drive him there myself for 1.6 million! (always wanted to say that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 With the money being paid for players down south a figure around £1.5m is fair for marvellous Marv. Whatever we get for him. I would worry big time next season. He is the one player who on his day looks the part and creates from nothing. A huge loss if he goes this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Don't think there is any danger of us following the Dundee United route to relegation by selling too many of our better players. Not saying we couldn't get relegated, we just don't have that many decent players to sell. £1.6 million for Marvin would be a great piece of business for us. Personally I doubt we will get half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one m in motherwell Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 With the money being paid for players down south a figure around £1.5m is fair for marvellous Marv. Whatever we get for him. I would worry big time next season. He is the one player who on his day looks the part and creates from nothing. A huge loss if he goes this summer. Agreed, although you'd assume replacements have already been identified. A bid for Marvin certainly wouldn't be unexpected I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Keep in mind that 15% of whatever we get for Marvin will go straight to Kidderminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Listen, Marvin is the best technically skilled player in the squad but he's never really attained any form of real consistency in a fairly weak league. He wasn't near anyone's SPFL team of the season last term. £1.6M? Of course we'd take it but the point is no one is going to offer it. Guys like Johnny Hayes and Greg Stewart have been much more effective players over the last couple of seasons so are they worth £2M plus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 If we use Lewis Grabban's transfer fee as the benhmark (reported to be around 7 million) Hayes and Stewart are easily worth 2 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Listen, Marvin is the best technically skilled player in the squad but he's never really attained any form of real consistency in a fairly weak league. He wasn't near anyone's SPFL team of the season last term. £1.6M? Of course we'd take it but the point is no one is going to offer it. Guys like Johnny Hayes and Greg Stewart have been much more effective players over the last couple of seasons so are they worth £2M plus? Ye never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Has anyone from the league moved south for a transfer fee yet? Kane Hemmings scored 25 goals and Hayes has performed well for years so you would expect them to be the prime targets for English clubs looking to Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Looking at the prices in the English market from the top half of the Championship upwards then I really wouldn't be surprised at a figure of £1.6m for Johnson especially if Hasselbaink has identified and wants the player. I read a suggestion that he had looked at the player while he was managing Burton. To say that nobody would pay that for him hardly acknowledges the sort of fees that are increasingly commonplace at that level, the reported £7m for Grabban being a good example, £3m for Nick Blackman to Derby is another. Having said that I'm very much in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. You can argue whether or not he's as effective as Hayes or Stewart all you want but that's largely irrelevant if Johnson is the player that a team actually wants, has the finance to make it worth our while selling and are willing to pay it. What that figure actually is, who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Worth remembering that as good as Hayes is, he's just that wee bit older than Johnson is, which probably makes him less appealing, and certainly out of the £1,000,000 bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 The thing with Johnson is he's developed into a proper athlete, which is an added attraction for clubs down South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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