CMWellfan Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Do we know if we offered Robbie Leitch a contract in sufficient time in order to qualify for compensation? Yes we did. He was one of those listed as being offered a contract on a club statement back in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Yes we did. He was one of those listed as being offered a contract on a club statement back in May. I think the question Lobey_Dosser is proposing is more along the lines of whether or not we met the 60 day rule (Article 6. Clause 3 of FIFA's guidelines) that allowed us to benefit in bringing in Heneghan from Chester and if it applies in Leitch's case going from Scotland to England (you'd think it would as he's changing associations). He was certainly on that list and SPFL rules are such that they only require an offer to be put in place 14 days before the expiration of the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I think we missed deadline as not seen officially on our site he left might have missed it though as seem to be keeping quiet on this 1 so think we stuffed up as sure we never offered a contract beg of April which is 60 days before contract ended end of may so think we got he haw as never expected anybody to come in for someone without 1st team action but it's happened so have learned a harsh lesson me thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I think we missed deadline as not seen officially on our site he left might have missed it though as seem to be keeping quiet on this 1 so think we stuffed up as sure we never offered a contract beg of April which is 60 days before contract ended end of may so think we got he haw as never expected anybody to come in for someone without 1st team action but it's happened so have learned a harsh lesson me thinks That said, as far as I'm aware it hasn't been announced he's signed by the other party so I wouldn't expect MFC to announce anything officially until the signing club and/or the player have done so first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I think we missed deadline as not seen officially on our site he left might have missed it though as seem to be keeping quiet on this 1 so think we stuffed up as sure we never offered a contract beg of April which is 60 days before contract ended end of may so think we got he haw as never expected anybody to come in for someone without 1st team action but it's happened so have learned a harsh lesson me thinks Tweet(@MotherwellFC): @Steffmcd80 As we stated publicly, we offered him a deal but he's opted to take up a contract offer down south, Steff. We wish him well...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 So the hunch is no compensation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 So the hunch is no compensation...Dunno. It does say that we wish him well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 That's what i mean it's all hush hush yet with Ben Hall we announced he had joined Brighton and we got a fee I am 99% certain we stuffed up and are trying to keep it quiet yet everybody knows he's away to Burnley yet no official announcement so question is why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshillWell Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 So no compensation for a youth player who is destined to join an EPL team. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Especially as he's been with us since he was about 8 as far as I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 That's what i mean it's all hush hush yet with Ben Hall we announced he had joined Brighton and we got a fee I am 99% certain we stuffed up and are trying to keep it quiet yet everybody knows he's away to Burnley yet no official announcement so question is why not It could be argued though that we are waiting for Burnley to announce the signing of Leitch, as we did with Hall at Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 It could be argued though that we are waiting for Burnley to announce the signing of Leitch, as we did with Hall at Brighton. ^^^ This. There's been no announcement by any of the 3 parties involved. IIRC in Hall's case it was Brighton who announced first, not MFC. Even the player himself hasn't updated his socials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Leitch is an U20 player who never played for the first team. Hall was a first team player. That's probably why there hasn't been a big announcement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermarv Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Another u20, Peter Morrison signed for Celtic - 130k he's a goalie aswell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Leitch is an U20 player who never played for the first team. Hall was a first team player. That's probably why there hasn't been a big announcement?It's not that there hasn't been a big announcement, more that there has been no announcement at all by either MFC, Burnley or more pertinently Leitch himself. You'd normally get a wee "thanks to MFC, all the best to the club" then his pals from the 20s pile on etc. The fact that hasn't happened yet is enough to suggest that rather than MFC trying to keep it quiet they're simply working to an agreed timeline. Which isn't to say they're due compensation or that they've not been caught out on the 60 day issue but equally it hardly means they're trying to cover the deal up. Given the window officially opens in England tomorrow I'd imagine you'd probably see some sort of confirmation then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Another u20, Peter Morrison signed for Celtic - 130k he's a goalie aswell Are you sure? I saw that they have signed PJ Crossan from Dunfermline who is an outfield player. Our goalie is PJ Morrison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeboy Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Have the rules changed in recent years? When we reportedly ended up with £200k for Hall and £500k for Erwin, I always wonder why we didn't just hold out for compensation for Murphy instead of accepting £110k when he had six months left to go on his contract. Was cash flow that bad? Were the future earnings from the sell on fee a big consideration? As it turned out, we got Faddy on a free, finished second and it turned out fine, but I always found it strange at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Murphy was too old for compensation. Agents and players are wise to the rules and make sure their contracts don't expire when they are 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faddythedaddy Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Hibs grant holt. Guess that the skippy move for them defo off then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeboy Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Murphy was too old for compensation. Agents and players are wise to the rules and make sure their contracts don't expire when they are 22. I thought it was 23 and under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergi4 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Whether or not a contract was offered Leitch in time to warrant a development fee should he leave, could anyone have predicted Leitch would have attracted interest from Upper leagues in england at this stage in his career? He might be the one that got away, but surely we release loads of boys accepting they may go on to have successful careers without a second thought that we may be due something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 I thought it was 23 and under? Nah. It's up to 23. F3: Compensation shall be payable to the former Club of a Player only where the Player concerned is Registered with his new Club at or before the end of the first Season in which the Player concerned reaches, will reach or shall have reached the age of 23. http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__therulesofthescottishprofessionalfootballleagueasat1december2015_1450456828.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 I thought it was 23 and under? U23. Hutchy was 23 when he left as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeboy Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Fair play, that answers the question loud and clear then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermarv Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Are you sure? I saw that they have signed PJ Crossan from Dunfermline who is an outfield player. Our goalie is PJ Morrison. My mistake just seen the pj bit sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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