wellowell Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Pearo dosnt leave till 22nf of this month to go to India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alls_well Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I think our selling point to these guys is that if you believe in your ability then we can put you in the shop window, give you regular first team games and TV exposure. You then stand more chance of a better move in 18-24 months time, eg Ruddy, Randolph, McCormack etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Saying "I didn't come here for the money" isn't the same as "I don't get paid very much". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMWellfan Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Saying "I didn't come here for the money" isn't the same as "I don't get paid very much". Correct - but the days of players being paid very much by Motherwell are long gone. Taxi owners in the area make more money than most of the Motherwell squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 :lol: Stop pretending you're "in the know", you haven't a clue who's on what wage at Motherwell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMWellfan Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 :lol: Stop pretending you're "in the know", you haven't a clue who's on what wage at Motherwell. I'm not in the know about every player - I'm in the know about one. I also don't know what planet some of you live on, do you think these guys don't talk? don't live in the local area? There's more gossip in a football dressing room than at a drunken sewing bee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I don't think the players discuss their wages with punters, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 It's very naive to think that information like that doesn't leak out the club either via local players talking to friends and family or club employees gossiping. Also there has to be a good chance CMWellfan is also Stonehousewell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 It's very naive to think that information like that doesn't leak out the club either via local players talking to friends and family or club employees gossiping. Also there has to be a good chance CMWellfan is also Stonehousewell. It's even more naive to think that any information that leaks is anywhere near true. Of course we can work out approximate wage scales for players based on our annual budget, but that's different from guys blabbing about their wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 It's even more naive to think that any information that leaks is anywhere near true. Of course we can work out approximate wage scales for players based on our annual budget, but that's different from guys blabbing about their wages. You're playing for Motherwell. Your brother or your sister knows what you earn. They have big mouths and are out with their mates asking all about the fact that a family member is a professional footballer. Their mates also have big mouths. And so it goes. Obviously with a degree of Chinese whispers as the figure gets less accurate the further you get from the player but I wouldn't say that stories never leak out. I know for a fact that they do... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I don't know what wages my family are paid and they don't know what I'm paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Some of us do know. There's a first team squad member at Fir Park on £450 a week basic, I won't name him. They get time and a half for working Saturdays though, that bumps the basic up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I don't know what wages my family are paid and they don't know what I'm paid. Not saying every family does. Just giving a hypothetical example of how these things can get out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMWellfan Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 How much do think we spend a year on player wages? 2012, the club total employment cost was £3,513,206. That includes every member of the board, club management, team management, admin, ground staff, playing staff, the lot. It also includes the pension contribution and employers NIC for every qualifying employee. The playing staff have access to a specialist sporting pension scheme that allows them to contribute more than normal for their age, and they can "retire," and draw on that pension at thirty-five. The budget has been cut - I'd now estimate £3 million, maybe a shade more. After the pension and NIC contributions are subtracted, and all staff wages outside of the playing staff - I'd estimate the club player budget to be around £1.5/£1.8 million. There's at least forty-five players on the payroll. I'd guess the development squad payroll is around £300/£400,000 max. Let's call it £350,000. So that leaves somewhere between £1.15 and £1.45 million for the first team squad of around twenty-two players. That would work out at an average of between £52,000 and £66,000 p.a. per first team player gross - and that budget will include appearance money, bonuses etc. So the average is between £1000 a week and £1270 gross per week. Lets go down the middle again - that would be £1135 gross per first team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Taxi driving pays 1200 wrappers a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Taxi driving pays 1200 wrappers a week? £7 for a ten minute journey means an hourly rate of £40 an hour so aye probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 £7 for a ten minute journey means an hourly rate of £40 an hour so aye probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... CMWellfan Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Taxi driving pays 1200 wrappers a week? General hire owner operators, yup. The last I heard private hire drivers were earning £700 a week. Anyway, enough with the Ad Hominem crap - that first figure was taken straight off our returns to Companies House, 2012. There was a lengthy club statement saying that they couldn't rely upon European qualification when budgeting ( oh, those heady days ) so they decided to pare back the budget going forward. Now we've slashed the budget even further. They also said in a club the statement that the SPL decision to reduce the prize money for second place came too late for the players bonus to be adjusted. Nett result? we finished second and earned not a coin from it. The players took it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Kmcalpin Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Obviously with a degree of Chinese whispers as the figure gets less accurate the further you get from the player but I wouldn't say that stories never leak out. I know for a fact that they do... Of course they do, Greg. I'll start by saying that I have no knowledge of any player's wages at Fir Park, nor of any leaks. In general though information on players' wages can easily be leaked or gleaned in various ways. Leaks can occur from an organisation's wages section; staff seeing papers they shouldn't or overhearing conversations; court cases; family/friends leaks; leaks from banks/building societies; leaks from shops/businesses offering loans/hire purchase etc. Over the years, I myself have seen or heard details of others earnings that I should have had no knowledge of. In my student days a fellow employee, who should have had no knowledge of my wage, complained to our boss about what I was earning. Leaks, intended or otherwise do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Yassin Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 General hire owner operators, yup. The last I heard private hire drivers were earning £700 a week. Won't be long until we're losing players on free transfers to Kelvin Kabs. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Shaka Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 2012, the club total employment cost was £3,513,206. That includes every member of the board, club management, team management, admin, ground staff, playing staff, the lot. It also includes the pension contribution and employers NIC for every qualifying employee. The playing staff have access to a specialist sporting pension scheme that allows them to contribute more than normal for their age, and they can "retire," and draw on that pension at thirty-five. The budget has been cut - I'd now estimate £3 million, maybe a shade more. After the pension and NIC contributions are subtracted, and all staff wages outside of the playing staff - I'd estimate the club player budget to be around £1.5/£1.8 million. There's at least forty-five players on the payroll. I'd guess the development squad payroll is around £300/£400,000 max. Let's call it £350,000. So that leaves somewhere between £1.15 and £1.45 million for the first team squad of around twenty-two players. That would work out at an average of between £52,000 and £66,000 p.a. per first team player gross - and that budget will include appearance money, bonuses etc. So the average is between £1000 a week and £1270 gross per week. Lets go down the middle again - that would be £1135 gross per first team player. There was an interview wi McCall in the summer before he left and he said the playing budget had been cut to £1.6m for the following season. I think it was frozen for Baracloughs summer and cut this year so Id imagine your looking at £1.3m - £1.4m this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Busta Nut Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Every taxi I get in, they moan about no one wanting taxis. I don't care what folks say. ye don't make 1200 quid a week driving a taxi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sbcmfc Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Every taxi I get in, they moan about no one wanting taxis. I don't care what folks say. ye don't make 1200 quid a week driving a taxi I don't know what I went to uni for if they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... hammy Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Ross McCormack off to Villa for 12 million. Much like his move to Fulham before, will we be in line for a very small percentage of that figure? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... superward Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Every taxi I get in, they moan about no one wanting taxis. I don't care what folks say. ye don't make 1200 quid a week driving a taxi Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 Next Page 99 of 149 This topic is now closed to further replies. Share More sharing options... Followers 3
CMWellfan Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Taxi driving pays 1200 wrappers a week? General hire owner operators, yup. The last I heard private hire drivers were earning £700 a week. Anyway, enough with the Ad Hominem crap - that first figure was taken straight off our returns to Companies House, 2012. There was a lengthy club statement saying that they couldn't rely upon European qualification when budgeting ( oh, those heady days ) so they decided to pare back the budget going forward. Now we've slashed the budget even further. They also said in a club the statement that the SPL decision to reduce the prize money for second place came too late for the players bonus to be adjusted. Nett result? we finished second and earned not a coin from it. The players took it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Obviously with a degree of Chinese whispers as the figure gets less accurate the further you get from the player but I wouldn't say that stories never leak out. I know for a fact that they do... Of course they do, Greg. I'll start by saying that I have no knowledge of any player's wages at Fir Park, nor of any leaks. In general though information on players' wages can easily be leaked or gleaned in various ways. Leaks can occur from an organisation's wages section; staff seeing papers they shouldn't or overhearing conversations; court cases; family/friends leaks; leaks from banks/building societies; leaks from shops/businesses offering loans/hire purchase etc. Over the years, I myself have seen or heard details of others earnings that I should have had no knowledge of. In my student days a fellow employee, who should have had no knowledge of my wage, complained to our boss about what I was earning. Leaks, intended or otherwise do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 General hire owner operators, yup. The last I heard private hire drivers were earning £700 a week. Won't be long until we're losing players on free transfers to Kelvin Kabs. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 2012, the club total employment cost was £3,513,206. That includes every member of the board, club management, team management, admin, ground staff, playing staff, the lot. It also includes the pension contribution and employers NIC for every qualifying employee. The playing staff have access to a specialist sporting pension scheme that allows them to contribute more than normal for their age, and they can "retire," and draw on that pension at thirty-five. The budget has been cut - I'd now estimate £3 million, maybe a shade more. After the pension and NIC contributions are subtracted, and all staff wages outside of the playing staff - I'd estimate the club player budget to be around £1.5/£1.8 million. There's at least forty-five players on the payroll. I'd guess the development squad payroll is around £300/£400,000 max. Let's call it £350,000. So that leaves somewhere between £1.15 and £1.45 million for the first team squad of around twenty-two players. That would work out at an average of between £52,000 and £66,000 p.a. per first team player gross - and that budget will include appearance money, bonuses etc. So the average is between £1000 a week and £1270 gross per week. Lets go down the middle again - that would be £1135 gross per first team player. There was an interview wi McCall in the summer before he left and he said the playing budget had been cut to £1.6m for the following season. I think it was frozen for Baracloughs summer and cut this year so Id imagine your looking at £1.3m - £1.4m this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Every taxi I get in, they moan about no one wanting taxis. I don't care what folks say. ye don't make 1200 quid a week driving a taxi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Every taxi I get in, they moan about no one wanting taxis. I don't care what folks say. ye don't make 1200 quid a week driving a taxi I don't know what I went to uni for if they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Ross McCormack off to Villa for 12 million. Much like his move to Fulham before, will we be in line for a very small percentage of that figure? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Every taxi I get in, they moan about no one wanting taxis. I don't care what folks say. ye don't make 1200 quid a week driving a taxi Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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