Busta Nut Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Unreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I am siding with club on this like I said, but just by a smidgen. If you can't see both sides of the argument then that is more worrying I think. It's clear something changed where there should have been comms on it. But also you could argue we should have questioned it. But where does that stop? Question every cup draw before it happens for example? "Neil, can I just check we still go in at the 4th round like we always have done cause I am assuming that? Aye, cheers" Anyway I am off for a pint. Top 6 nae bother either way and we will be near fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Don't like the chat about the Highland games either. Their travel every second week is horrendous, someone has to play them. Just get on with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 The state of Scottish football is such a riddie these days. It's desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Don't like the chat about the Highland games either. Their travel every second week is horrendous, someone has to play them. Just get on with it.Exactly. What do they propose? That ICT and Ross County play all their fixtures against each other during busy periods. Same with midweek. Don't want midweek then reduce amount of fixtures, but then we would have less games against Rangers or Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Blues Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 We told them where to stick their shitty blue pound for the play offs and that turned out OK. Let's see if we can't put 6 past them in a single game next season, the Neanderthal scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 The state of Scottish football is such a riddie these days. It's desperate. Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Issue for me is it must of been reviewed and rubber stamped with what .... half a dozen pairs of eyes looking it over ..... and it still gets published. Had some hopes with the rejigging of the League Cup that things were starting to move (slowly) in the right direction. Today's fixtures are just a prime example of ineptitude at the top of our game. Shambles! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdalli10 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 That statement is a red neck. Just get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Let's live in the real world for a minute We have been shafted. We have lost out on £120k of budgeted revenue. Our competition in the likes of Dundee will gain an extra £250k over us which is as much as 3 players. We stand less chance of gaining points having 2 away games more v old firm over 3 sides. The club are right to protest.mThe SPFL are a shambles and conjure up Sh1te like this routinely. That £120k is as much as the Well Society are raising in a year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Do we not have an increased chance of winning points from other teams, you get nothing extra from a draw against Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 the SPFL/SPL have proven once again they are not fit for purpose sadly they were both created to look after the old firm and do feck all for the other clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Let's live in the real world for a minute We have been shafted. We have lost out on £120k of budgeted revenue. Our competition in the likes of Dundee will gain an extra £250k over us which is as much as 3 players. We stand less chance of gaining points having 2 away games more v old firm over 3 sides. The club are right to protest.mThe SPFL are a shambles and conjure up Sh1te like this routinely. That £120k is as much as the Well Society are raising in a year. Wait, we've been shafted because the SPFL decided to treat Rangers the same as if it was Hibs or Falkirk that came up. Oh dear, how fucking sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 So the four years of fun are over now and we're treating this new entity The Rangers as the same old team again are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I'm not quite sure where I stand on this issue yet, I can see both sides. But lets not pretend that Rangers are simply being treated the same as any other team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjy Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Surely the point is that teams that get four home games against the arse cheeks earn around £120,000 more for their extra two games against them while Motherwell, Partick and Hamilton play an extra home game against the likes of St Johnstone, Ross Co or Dundee. Budgets are very tight at every club. I have no idea what wages a good SPL player gets but if it is £60,000 then the difference in the fixtures could mean that the clubs who are getting two more home games could be getting in two more quality players. These clubs are our immediate rivals. I am pretty sure that all clubs would have budgeted for three games against Rangers or Celtic. Some clubs have got an unexpected increase in their income while others have seen a reduction. That cannot be right. I loathe the Old Firm as much as anybody but the money we get from their supporters should be distributed as fairly as possible among the rest of the clubs. The SPL have cocked up again. There may be a slight plus in that we have more home games against teams around our level and so have a better chance of beating them. Others have pointed out other cock ups like Thistle and us playing Aberdeen and Ross Co at New Year while each could have been playing each other. Just one example that illustrates that no thought is put into creating the fixtures. The whole episode does little to restore confidence in the SPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 They are club 12 and this is what happened. If we've not budgeted properly because and we assumed they'd change the rules, then whose fault is it? Who did we expect Rangers to replace? club 2, coz THAT would've been fair! They guarantee a few fixtures (New year) ensure roughly home/away and randomize the rest. Same garbage 'crap','fix' shouts every single year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Others have pointed out other cock ups like Thistle and us playing Aberdeen and Ross Co at New Year while each could have been playing each other. Just one example that illustrates that no thought is put into creating the fixtures. The whole episode does little to restore confidence in the SPL. So it's OK for County fans to travel for almost three hours each way at that time but not Motherwell fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 All about opinions, simple solution is make sure we finish in top 6 and have 2 old firm home games no doubt on tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 As the SPFL are fond of saying, the SPFL is the clubs. It beggars belief then that they can issue fixtures which change an approach which dramatically affects clubs' budgets without consultation or even notification. Like it or not, Celtic and Rangers bring many more paying customers and I don't think the club can be blamed for assuming that a previous rule wouldn't still apply without being notified otherwise. Other than well publicised changes did the SPL rules transfer to the SPFL? Yes, the statement does play up our reliance on the money from the Old Firm but our limited budget has taken a serious knock before the season has even started. In recent seasons we knew we weren't getting any home games against Rangers and we budgeted accordingly. We don't need to rely on the 'blue pound' but we did expect a certain amount of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Others have pointed out other cock ups like Thistle and us playing Aberdeen and Ross Co at New Year while each could have been playing each other. Just one example that illustrates that no thought is put into creating the fixtures. The whole episode does little to restore confidence in the SPL. Why should Aberdeen have to travel to Dingwall, it's no better a journey than us travelling? Sadly it can't all be about Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Let's live in the real world for a minute We have been shafted. We have lost out on £120k of budgeted revenue. Our competition in the likes of Dundee will gain an extra £250k over us which is as much as 3 players. Have we though? And where does it all end? Maybe Kilmarnock gets Aberdeen and Hearts on a midweek and we get them on a Saturday meaning an extra 1,000 away fans turn up. Or maybe Dundee have a crucial relegation tie against us and they bring a huge support down or maybe we get Celtic in the Scottish Cup instead of Montrose. Or maybe it pisses down for three home matches in a row in January and a couple of hundred people decide to stay in the pub or the bookies while its sunny in Dingwall and a couple of hundred decide not to sit in the house. Trying to calculate all the permutations and situations across a season is impossible and there will always be teams that benefit and teams that don't. The idea that everyone is entitled to the same level of income over a season is ridiculous. I know this though, you don't lose £120k that you never had in the first place. We got a tough break with the fixtures, sup it up and move on. The fact that we play Rangers in the League Cup partially makes up for the league game anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 If hibs had come up and these fixtures came out this way, would this be an issue? (This is assuming the mention of the promoted team taking Dundee Utd's place) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 We survived four seasons without Sevco totally fine. What's with all this cuntfuckery now they are back in our league? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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