superward Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 My opinions on the old firm stuff in thr other thread are clear. As for the Xmas Eve game. It just seems daft asking Aberdeen to travel that far on a day when everything shuts down early. Surely a trip to Dundee or Edinburgh or Perth is more sensible? Sure that could have been manipulated to happen. For our mid week games I get the point everyone needs to travel and Ross County /Inverness do it every second week. But again a bit of sense would see them swapped around to be weekend games with some closer games moved to midweek. Again it come back to the point that the list is manipulated already to get Derby games at new year etc. So not a huge jump to ensure midweek games are the closest possible for all clubs involved I don't think. If the fixture list was completely random then fine and ye go with it but when it's not is seems daft to come out with certain fixtures. The clubs need to get together and sort it all fucking out but I won't old my breath. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 The only "close game" for Ross County is ICT. So you saying County should only play ICT midweek or only Saturday games only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Surprised that all the xmas eve fixtures are not at 1pm or something. Still a chance it could get moved to Friday night or sat lunchtime for tv. Only game likely to be picked is us or Accies v Celtic...maybe both. Only two league visits from the ugly sisters? Delighted. I'm sure the lost income can partially be offset from reduced stewarding costs and people not staying away. Oh and that statement? Fuckin cringe man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 The only "close game" for Ross County is ICT. So you saying County should only play ICT midweek or only Saturday games only? No, I said closer. Dingwall to Perth and Dundee are closer and quicker for their fans so it would make sense surely to do them midweek over somewhere 30 min or and hour further away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoojy Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 In this day & age, of course it's all about the money. That's the nature of the game/business these days. The league allow for postponements of games because it's all about the money. So why don't they accommodate the clubs that need the money, rather than those that just want it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 No, I said closer. Dingwall to Perth and Dundee are closer and quicker for their fans so it would make sense surely to do them midweek over somewhere 30 min or and hour further away. Make sense to who? Not really Ross County as far as i can see. The teams who are closer would therefore bring the biggest supports. So how is it fair to shift it to a Wednesday night? Even for a Saturday game, Motherwell would bring what, 150 fans? You can half that for a midweek game. So, Ross County miss out on 75 Motherwell fans. Let's say Dundee, for example (as it's a wee bit closer) take 500 fans to Dingwall for a Saturday game, but only 100 for a midweek game. Ross County then miss out on 400 away fans. Someone has to travel to these places on a Wednesday. You can't ask Ross County to move their stadium closer to the central belt to suit other team's fans. I would suggest scheduling midweek games for Ross County away is actually better for the likes of Motherwell, Partick, Hamilton & Killie. Simply because very few would travel anyway, regardless of what day it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Make sense to who? Not really Ross County as far as i can see. The teams who are closer would therefore bring the biggest supports. So how is it fair to shift it to a Wednesday night? Even for a Saturday game, Motherwell would bring what, 150 fans? You can half that for a midweek game. So, Ross County miss out on 75 Motherwell fans. Let's say Dundee, for example (as it's a wee bit closer) take 500 fans to Dingwall for a Saturday game, but only 100 for a midweek game. Ross County then miss out on 400 away fans. Someone has to travel to these places on a Wednesday. You can't ask Ross County to move their stadium closer to the central belt to suit other team's fans. I would suggest scheduling midweek games for Ross County away is actually better for the likes of Motherwell, Partick, Hamilton & Killie. Simply because very few would travel anyway, regardless of what day it is. It's fairer for those who travel clearly. Thsts what I am talking about, not money or anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's fairer for those who travel clearly. Thsts what I am talking about, not money or anything like that. That's what i'm saying. Someone will be upset at a Wednesday night game. But why would, or should, the SPFL upset 400-500 Dundee fans (for example), over only an extra 75 Motherwell fans? As clearly evident by various posts on this forum (not a dig at you, personally) you can't please everyone all the time. So really the task should be to minmise that upset and disruption. For the league as a whole, sending a Motherwell/Hamilton/Partick up north on a Wednesday night doest that, IMO. Despite the small band of fans who'll travel regardless being justifibaly upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted June 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Fuck Ross County, their owner bankrolls that team with questionable financial fair play criteria, so there's no reason he couldn't throw some money to the 2 pensioners and a dug that follows them with a 100 quid into a minibus every so often. Problem solved. What we are talking about here is simple, if the league released fixtures that had a semblance of common sense about them, there would be no debate, in fact a lot of people would be saying hey out of all the crap we could have got dealt, that isn't so bad. But they didn't and here we are. There would be no no fans divided down the middle as to thinking they were hard done to and no pedantic posts highlighting spelling mistakes to gain extra traction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 The statement is a bit of a red neck. However, I'll be willing to accept that we can dispense with accepted norms around the old firm when Rangers get sent to parkhead a 3rd time after the split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Would you have all the derbies midweek or just the Highland ones? It's pathetic because it's small time thinking. Look at Newcastle's fixtures for next season if you want to see travelling, look at teams in Germany, France or Italy. It's stupid to argue that we want to be a serious football nation with our clubs doing well in Europe then start greeting about an extra 2 hours travelling. You can't even seriously argue it puts people off travelling because 95% plus of our support wouldn't go for 3pm on a Saturday anyway. If anything if you want to maximise attendance you should put the distant games midweek and the nearby games that we carry a good support to on the weekend. Again, still not really explaining why it's pathetic. Happy to go anywhere for a 3pm on Saturday, that's the norm. Sending a central belt team to Inverness/Dingwall or vice versa midweek when the midweek fixtures could be scheduled to accommodate as best as possible is nonsense. Inverness/Ross County vs Dundee/St. Johnstone is a much better option. If you would like to tell me where you got a look of the Newcastle fixtures for next year two days ahead of anyone else in the world that would be great, thanks, and I will genuinely have a look at what travelling looks like. And Germany, France, England, Spain and Italy all have far superior infrastructure than us and are all bigger countries than us, what point are you trying to make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I think the uproar of the fixture list is being blamed on our cup defeat to Albion Rovers, well that seems to get blamed for everything!!! ba boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Saying it's not fair that we have to travel midweek is pathetic. Suggesting that Dundee or Aberdeen who would have journeys almost identical to ours should travel instead is pathetic. Playing in the top Scottish league yet complaining about having to go places in Scotland is pathetic. The longest journey is three hours each way, that's nothing compared to the travelling English fans do. Scotland is also very easy to get around these days due to all the motorway upgrades across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Made Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I think in this instance after Thistle made their statement the club were caught in we're damned if we do or damned if we don't scenario about making a statement. There would have been a fair few on here stating that the Board weren't looking after the club etc for letting this go by with nothing said. I would love to see an Accies supportes view on it but can't find an active forum for them...... Either way, we have been short changed with the way the fixtures have been divvied up with the Old Firm as for the travelling aspect, we do seem to get a lot of midweek visits up North and during the festive periods. This also works the other way as well. Recently we have had Aberdeen at us on the 2nd January, so it's not all one way traffic but comments were made when that fixture was announced as well, due to limited or no public transport. Lets get an 18 team league up and running, everyone plays each other twice (no need for fancy splits then) and try to regionalise things a little better for festive period. After all it wasn't that long ago the New Years Day fixture was considered a Derby day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Saying it's not fair that we have to travel midweek is pathetic. Suggesting that Dundee or Aberdeen who would have journeys almost identical to ours should travel instead is pathetic. Playing in the top Scottish league yet complaining about having to go places in Scotland is pathetic. The longest journey is three hours each way, that's nothing compared to the travelling English fans do. Scotland is also very easy to get around these days due to all the motorway upgrades across the country. Where did I say it wasn't fair? Where did I mention Aberdeen? Where did I complain about going places? All I'm calling for is a little common sense. Motherwell to Dingwall is not a 3hr drive - it's 185miles, 102 of it on a road where you will be doing well to get above 50mph, and its predominantly not a dual carriageway/motorway. And where are the Newcastle fixtures you were talking about?! Doubt they will get scheduled to play Brighton midweek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 And where are the Newcastle fixtures you were talking about?! Doubt they will get scheduled to play Brighton midweek. A quick look at last season's fixtures shows they did have to go to West Ham on a Monday night... but other than that their midweek away games were all in the North or the Midlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Maybe not Brighton but they still have possible midweek trips to London, East Anglia and Wales. Here to Dingwall is 3 hrs 24 mins according to Google which is basically the same as Newcastle to Manchester. Calling for 'common sense' is usually a sign a person doesn't know what they are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 A quick look at last season's fixtures shows they did have to go to West Ham on a Monday night... but other than that their midweek away games were all in the North or the Midlands. They are in the Championship next season so that's an extra 8 midweek games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmsd Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Change it back to a 18 team league play each other twice beats playing some teams up to 7 times in a season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Calling for 'common sense' is usually a sign a person doesn't know what they are talking about. You were the one calling for me to look at fixtures that don't exist, so you must be riddled with common sense then! "Pathetic" chat indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Think SPFL totally stuffed this up as will be like this for ever more as fully expect Rangers to be in top flight going forward unless money problems come up again .When they started this league with the split they said every team will either get Rangers or Celtic at home twice before split their rules nobody else's but if not in league nothing you can do .Now they've returned should have been same IMO because like it or not we are all skint and an extra old firm game makes a difference so with 3 teams having 4 old firm games before split and 3 having 2 that makes a massive difference as 5000 fans paying 25pd is an extra £125000 so 3 teams get 500000 3 get 250000 that's about 4 players in IMO a season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Calling for 'common sense' is usually a sign a person doesn't know what they are talking about. Ok then.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Fuck Ross County, their owner bankrolls that team with questionable financial fair play criteria, so there's no reason he couldn't throw some money to the 2 pensioners and a dug that follows them with a 100 quid into a minibus every so often. Problem solved. Fucking raging! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Ok then.... It's the kind of patter Farage or Donald Trump would come out with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Can we bring back the vote down buttons please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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