The African Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Thanks to TonyS88 for clarifying the situation. All we can do is go out and try and beat Stranraer and see where we end up. We certainly cannot just assume we will pick up the win at Stair Park. It will not be the end of the world if we don't make it but it would be nice to have another round to look forward to, and perhaps a little more cash coming our way. Whatever happens, I do think these games have been better than the usual round of pre season friendlies and, hopefully, they will have set us up for the really important stuff still to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purestate Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Only thing I'd add for group G is that a (not totally impossible) 6 goal win by St. Mirren vs Ed City (and assuming Accies wins x2) would need us to beat Stranraer by 2. Clarkson with shooting boots on to sink us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Cheers Tony, nice to see there's a bigger geek than me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyS88 Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Software Developer mate, part of the job description. Living over in Canada now so managed to figure it out while I should've been working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Software Developer mate, part of the job description. Living over in Canada now so managed to figure it out while I should've been working.Aye, that would be my excuse tae. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Software Developer mate, part of the job description. Living over in Canada now so managed to figure it out while I should've been working. I believe distractions like that fall under the category of "Waiting for the code to compile." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 6 goal win by St. Mirren vs Ed City (and assuming Accies wins x2) would need us to beat Stranraer by 2. Clarkson with shooting boots on to sink us? It’s the Motherwell way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 I said after the Rangers game that 9 points and a goal difference of at least +4 would see us through. I'll stand by my prediction that any sort of win at Stranraer will see us in the next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Presumably as the league cup is an "official" competition it's bound by FIFA rules so that will dictate things like number of subs, trialists and that sort of thing? It may well be the case that unless there's a way round it (games being played outwith the regular league season?) they're stuck with 3 subs. Not sure, how did we fudge in this mad penalties rule then? Dunno how these things work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 If we win on Saturday we will go through. Worst case group C&D go through on 10 points, leaving groups E-H all with runners up on 9 points. Our goal difference of +4 (minimum if we win) will see us through as the best 2 of those 4. All the worst case results (which includes draws with a specific team winning the bonus point) are pretty unlikely to ALL happen, and even if they did, a goal difference of (at least) +4 would still be enough in my opinion. Will be an exciting day though, with so many teams still in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Not sure, how did we fudge in this mad penalties rule then? Dunno how these things work. Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Presumably as the league cup is an "official" competition it's bound by FIFA rules so that will dictate things like number of subs, trialists and that sort of thing? It may well be the case that unless there's a way round it (games being played outwith the regular league season?) they're stuck with 3 subs. This article seems pretty confident that the English FA will be allowed to implement it.http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36904466 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hard game on Saturday so a win is not guaranteed but can see st mirren winning 5 0 home to Edinburgh so might need 2 goal victory which is even harder just a pity we never took more of our chances last 3 games as we've had plenty u never know might find our shooting boots come Saturday here's hoping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweed Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 I think there is something fundamentally wrong with the premise that feasibly a team with 1 win and 3 draws could go through as a highest runner up ahead of a team with 3 wins. However I doubt it will actually shaft us but the fact it could happen is a fundamental flaw in the format. I still think if we win, we will qualify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 I think there is something fundamentally wrong with the premise that feasibly a team with 1 win and 3 draws could go through as a highest runner up ahead of a team with 3 wins. However I doubt it will actually shaft us but the fact it could happen is a fundamental flaw in the format. I still think if we win, we will qualify.Portugal are European champions with a record similar to that. Maybe it's the new football, draw your way to success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellarmy Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Accies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Accies drawing 2-2...20 mins to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellarmy Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Sitting in the fourth best runner up place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Sitting in the fourth best runner up place? It's pretty irrelevant where we are at the moment, as some teams have played 4 games. If we win on Saturday, we'll go through. If it will make some folk feel better, stick a £1 accumulator on the set of circumstances it would take for us to win and not qualify. Your winnings will soften the blow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 If it comes to it and we're tied on points and goal difference..its then.. 1. Goals Scored 2. Away goals scored 3. Matches won 4. Away matches won 5. Drawing of lots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleeastdave Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Now we have qualified as one of the 2nd best team, can someone explain how does the next round work, ok we are unseeded but is all the seeded teams at home for the next round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Draw is after the Dundee Utd v Dunfermline game tomorrow, live on BT Sport. Next round to be played Aug 9/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Normally in league cup seeded draws split equally home and away so would think 4 seeded teams at home and 4 away so 50/50 chance of home tie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Didn't realise the next round came along so quickly. Is it possible we can draw Rangers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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