fizoxy Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Ellis plummer forced to retire at 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 That's sad to see. Real shame at that age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 7:06 PM, GazzyB said: What's the alternative for him? Staying at Motherwell for the rest of his career? He must have believed he can get into the Rangers team eventually, and he'll earn a lot of money in the process. He'll also learn a lot going to places like Rotherham. Expand Aye, it's a no-brainer to get Rangers wages and play in England compared to getting Motherwell wages and maybe a few starts in our first team. If he applies himself there it could be a very good loan spell for him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 7:06 PM, GazzyB said: What's the alternative for him? Staying at Motherwell for the rest of his career? He must have believed he can get into the Rangers team eventually, and he'll earn a lot of money in the process. He'll also learn a lot going to places like Rotherham. Expand No, but a decent option would be to stay develop his top level game for longer than 3 months before bouncing himself back down to reserve/lower league football. if Hastie had managed to continue what he started at Motherwell, what do you think his agent could have demanded in say 12-18 months time. At least a move to a bigger club who may want to play him. Erwin is a classic example. In football terms (not financial), is he in a better place now that he was when he left us ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 2:37 PM, sbcmfc said: I’ve got a small amount of sympathy for Hastie. The contract Rangers will have given him will have been a once in a lifetime opportunity. He would’ve been crazy not to take it! Expand It will have been a huge increase in wages so think an offer many of us would have taken if we’re being honest. Taking the money out of the equation though he was very predictable and teams soon sussed him out, stop him cutting inside and you nullified most of what he did. He struggled with us last three or four games and was subbed, maybe by then his head was turned but i’m still not convinced he was the real deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 5:53 AM, Yorkyred said: It will have been a huge increase in wages so think an offer many of us would have taken if we’re being honest. Taking the money out of the equation though he was very predictable and teams soon sussed him out, stop him cutting inside and you nullified most of what he did. He struggled with us last three or four games and was subbed, maybe by then his head was turned but i’m still not convinced he was the real deal. Expand Yes, that was the subtext to my point. I’m not convinced he’s any better than guys we’ve let go and have slipped down the leagues. I think Motherwell and Jake Hastie got the best deal they were ever going to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 12:04 PM, sbcmfc said: Yes, that was the subtext to my point. I’m not convinced he’s any better than guys we’ve let go and have slipped down the leagues. Expand That's harsh. He looked dangerous in almost all of the games he played which can't have been a fluke. I don't see him playing below Scottish Premiership level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmostFrazzled Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 12:04 PM, sbcmfc said: Yes, that was the subtext to my point. I’m not convinced he’s any better than guys we’ve let go and have slipped down the leagues. I think Motherwell and Jake Hastie got the best deal they were ever going to get. Expand I think this is very much the case. Once teams had rumbled him he became much less effective. Would it have been nice to keep a young player and try and coach him to be better? Absolutely yes. Do I think we've missed out on a massive amount of money in the future? Absolutely not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 12:18 PM, steelboy said: That's harsh. He looked dangerous in almost all of the games he played which can't have been a fluke. I don't see him playing below Scottish Premiership level. Expand Probably a bit harsh. I’d say he made a bigger impact in less games than Ryan Kent... On 9/3/2019 at 12:32 PM, AlmostFrazzled said: I think this is very much the case. Once teams had rumbled him he became much less effective. Expand But also this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 12:18 PM, steelboy said: That's harsh. He looked dangerous in almost all of the games he played which can't have been a fluke. I don't see him playing below Scottish Premiership level. Expand He was supported because he came through the ranks, he was poor the last few games and subbed. Moving forward I don’t see him playing in the Scottish Premiership in one of the better teams on a weekly basis. I could see him in a lower ranked team or one of the better championship teams. A lot does depend on his developments but I still think there will be question marks regarding his attitude moving forward, he’s no David Turnbull ability or maturity wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 4:36 PM, Yorkyred said: He was supported because he came through the ranks, he was poor the last few games and subbed. Moving forward I don’t see him playing in the Scottish Premiership in one of the better teams on a weekly basis. I could see him in a lower ranked team or one of the better championship teams. A lot does depend on his developments but I still think there will be question marks regarding his attitude moving forward, he’s no David Turnbull ability or maturity wise. Expand His comparison to Turnbull at Perth was amusing even though I thought it was harsh on the young boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 12:48 PM, TvTotherwell said: Jake Hastie loaned to Rotherham Utd. When will young players realize that taking the "big money" isn't always the best thing for their career. Good luck to him. Expand Irony is we often get upset at the naivety and/or arrogance of English players and fans to the Scottish game and SPFL however it appears many North of the border do the same when talking about any team not to grace the EPL in the past 20 years .... just sayin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 David Ferguson has signed for Peterhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 From today's BBC Gossip: Quote Kilmarnock are set to sign former Hamilton defender Stephen Hendrie. (Daily Record - print edition) Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 How long we do think Alessio has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 10:04 AM, daver said: How long we do think Alessio has? Expand More than Heckingbottam. Less than Levein. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleeastdave Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 8:32 AM, Toxteth O'Grady said: From today's BBC Gossip: Expand On 9/6/2019 at 8:32 AM, Toxteth O'Grady said: From today's BBC Gossip: Expand Well that’s Killie snookered now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Please let the International break be over quickly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mio Krivokapic Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Hastie scores on his league debut for Rotherham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 12:26 PM, Mio Krivokapic said: Hastie scores on his league debut for Rotherham Expand Shhhhh! You'll upset folk on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 I’d like to see him make it to a decent level. Would be another good advert for MFC youth program and the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Tanner has a new job. We must have offered him peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 4:51 PM, fizoxy said: Tanner has a new job. We must have offered him peanuts. Expand Don't think money came in to it, I suspect Tanner knew he was never going to get back to the level he was at, so taking the next step in his career outwith football, good luck to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 All the best to Tanner. Tough one for him. Elsewhere, Hastie scored for Rotherham on his debut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
199143 Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 Graeme Smith- man of the match for Stenny yesterday and that was before saving 3 out of 4 penalties in the shootout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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