Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

[StAndrew7]

15 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Seems to be doing well.

Hopefully he can add something to the team in the second half of the season!

Unless we get rid of a forward or two I doubt he'll be back in January, as it's a season long loan I think?

Better to have him playing regularly for Morton than warming our bench and getting the odd cameo, imho.

[Happy Dosser]

Attended an event at Motherwell library tonight with Pat Nevin talking about his time at MFC and other clubs. His new book was for sale also.

I had an older friend, sadly no longer with us,  who was very critical of PN during his time at the club so it was interesting to hear the latter's  version of things.

Whom to believe, eh?

[mio]

9 minutes ago, Happy Dosser said:

Attended an event at Motherwell library tonight with Pat Nevin talking about his time at MFC and other clubs. His new book was for sale also.

I had an older friend, sadly no longer with us,  who was very critical of PN during his time at the club so it was interesting to hear the latter's  version of things.

Whom to believe, eh?

I’d go with your old friend. 

if Pat Nevin was to tell you what day it was, I would always check the calendar after to be sure.

he lives in his own Par Nevin little world.

[Happy Dosser]

24 minutes ago, mio said:

I’d go with your old friend. 

if Pat Nevin was to tell you what day it was, I would always check the calendar after to be sure.

he lives in his own Par Nevin little world.

You're sounding like my old pal 😉.

[stv]

8 hours ago, Happy Dosser said:

You're sounding like my old pal 😉.

Did Pat sound as if he was in “his own little world” or did he actually talk some sense. What was your opinion after listening to him. Always thought he seemed genuine enough type of guy.

[Happy Dosser]

35 minutes ago, stv said:

Did Pat sound as if he was in “his own little world” or did he actually talk some sense. What was your opinion after listening to him. Always thought he seemed genuine enough type of guy.

It was mainly  an anecdotal night to showcase the book, as you would expect, so I wasn't expecting any great insights. I actually only went because a friend asked me to come along and we were going to the pub afterwards 🤣.

He seemed ok on the surface but it's hard to tell much  about a person in an hour of chat about things you didn't witness yourself. The one story I did find surprising was that the salary John Boyle offered him as CE (or whatever his title was) was too much and he would only take  half the amount offered because money wasn't very important to him and JB was always too generous when splashing the cash.

Since I had  already heard negative views  of his time at FP, it was frankly  difficult for me to come to a conclusion. In my experience , you only really get to know someone by working with them (or marrying them 😈) that's when you discover their true nature, for better or worse.

Edited Tuesday at 08:19 AM by Happy Dosser
Typed extra emoji instead of bracket.

[David]

I've always blamed Boyle more than Nevin for that whole period of time. He was the guy who hired someone who clearly wasn't qualified for that job.

[StAndrew7]

3 minutes ago, David said:

I've always blamed Boyle more than Nevin for that whole period of time. He was the guy who hired someone who clearly wasn't qualified for that job.

Aye, I'm also of that opinion. I believe Boyle was the one who was throwing the daft contracts about as much as Nevin was. He's said a few times that he had to talk Boyle down from splashing mental money at some players.

[weeyin]

2 hours ago, David said:

I've always blamed Boyle more than Nevin for that whole period of time. He was the guy who hired someone who clearly wasn't qualified for that job.

Same here. Boyle did a lot of (well-intentioned) damage to the club that almost drove us out of existence.

On the plus side, we'd likely never have moved to the fan owned model if it wasn't for that. He also did the right thing when it came to being repaid monies owed to him that otherwise could have made our financial situation even more dire.

[Mad Dog]

18 hours ago, mio said:

I’d go with your old friend. 

if Pat Nevin was to tell you what day it was, I would always check the calendar after to be sure.

he lives in his own Par Nevin little world.

I'd strongly disagree with this.

I went to a similar event here on Guernsey, listened to an hour of anecdotes and had a good chat with him afterwards as the token Motherwell supporter. I also bought his book, which he very kindly signed for me. Having read it, I really can't find any fault in him. The blame seems to lie with Boyle himself as a well-intentioned but fairly clueless owner and his holding company Hamilton.

[mio]

19 hours ago, Mad Dog said:

I'd strongly disagree with this.

I went to a similar event here on Guernsey, listened to an hour of anecdotes and had a good chat with him afterwards as the token Motherwell supporter. I also bought his book, which he very kindly signed for me. Having read it, I really can't find any fault in him. The blame seems to lie with Boyle himself as a well-intentioned but fairly clueless owner and his holding company Hamilton.

I bought his books too which annoyed me slightly as I was putting more money in his pockets. I did however find them interesting.

Boyle as discussed was obviously the main culprit but Nevin tried to deflect absolutely everything on him which I disagreed with. He was responsible for some of the mercenaries we employed and also responsible for their pay. An example being Tony Thomas the crock from Tranmere who played a few games for us and got £4K a week over a 3yr period.

i think Nevin is a smart guy and can pull the wool over many peoples eyes as folk think he’s honest. I don’t. Even his best mate McLair has made a few comments about Nevin spinning the truth. I thought Mclair was quite funny actually when he was talking about this and how Nevin went on and on about attending university when he was actually at a college.

anyway, it’s just my view, don’t trust the bloke, never forgave him for him taking a Chanel 5 job to commentate on an English game the same night we played Chievo to help with funds following our administration. Not something I’d have expected from our CEO as he still was at that time. Charlatan.

[twistandshout1983]

I bought Pat’s book and I thought it was an excellent read .  Each to their own opinion of course . As much as John Boyle had the best of intentions he had to be talked out of some crazy ideas on plenty of occasions

Some things in it I would never have thought at the time were going on behind the scenes at Fir Park , new issues popping up on a regular almost daily basis .   

Billy Davies also sounded like one difficult character to work with , would have left sooner if it wasn’t for Nevin backing him as plenty of others at the club had seemingly had enough