Stuwell2 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 10 hours ago, Mad Dog said: I think that we normally get it right in that respect but I would like to mention Nicky Cadden as one that got away. My mate who knew them as players was shocked at us only keeping Chris as he believed Nicky was as good if not better but it has taken Nicky longer to get to where he is now. Tough decisions for the coaching staff when budgets are tight and I sometimes wonder who they put before him on their list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Butland injured so baptism of fire for Kelly tomorrow . Certainly don't wish him any bad will. He was not great last season but was a good servant to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 49 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Butland injured so baptism of fire for Kelly tomorrow . Certainly don't wish him any bad will. He was not great last season but was a good servant to us He played last week against Dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 47 minutes ago, ropy said: He played last week against Dundee Yup, I just meant a big game for him thrown into old firm match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted Sunday at 01:45 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:45 PM Kelly doing Kelly things against Hibs... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted Sunday at 04:43 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:43 PM 2 hours ago, Orinoco said: Kelly doing Kelly things against Hibs... Butland did Kelly things against us too - just had the Rangers VAR to save him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted Sunday at 04:50 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:50 PM Aye but Butland got to touch the ball. Kelly as usual nowhere to be seen at a cross ball. How he makes a living as a goalkeeper is a mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted Sunday at 05:07 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:07 PM 17 minutes ago, Orinoco said: Aye but Butland got to touch the ball. Kelly as usual nowhere to be seen at a cross ball. How he makes a living as a goalkeeper is a mystery. I think there's a bit of revisionism going on because during his first loan spell, and during his early performances after we signed him, he was an excellent performer (and even won the players' Player of the Year). He was certainly poor when everyone else in the team was poor too, but his overall contribution to the team during his spell was a net positive. I was never a fan of having him as a captain, and I always felt his form dipped after that. I've seen plenty of good keepers over the years that don't do crosses - it wasn't a problem for them, because they had central defenders that took care of them. Jim Leighton made a career out of never leaving his 6 yard box, but had guys like Big Eck to mop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted Sunday at 07:42 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:42 PM Kelly became a bombscare and cost us a lot of goals, absolutely no denying that especially after he became captain. As been said previously he was very good on loan to us and initially after permanently signing but he just got worse and worse , every other team and even his own defenders knew he couldn't be relied on at cross balls. That being said the Ox seems to be heading in the same direction. Hopefully he can recapture his prowess In the air he's a lot bigger and has more presence than LK ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted Sunday at 08:56 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:56 PM 1 hour ago, stv said: That being said the Ox seems to be heading in the same direction. Hopefully he can recapture his prowess In the air he's a lot bigger and has more presence than LK ever had. Ox was decent today, making at least one goal-stopping save. His distribution and urgency were, however, honking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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