Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

[Spiderpig]

8 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

 

Younger, with a sell on value is our demographic....

Correct but younger, with ability and a sell on value would be better, quality over quantity.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

Louis Moult also leaving Tannadice.

[Spiderpig]

59 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

Louis Moult also leaving Tannadice.

I know his best days are behind him and his injury record is not the best but he'd still be a big upgrade on the alleged strikers we have now. That said I don't think we should be signing him again.

[MJC]

3 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

Louis Moult also leaving Tannadice.

No doubt there will be the usual clamour from the usual suspects in our support for us to sign him again. Those same suspects who were happy to see us mugged off by us signing McFadden the second and third time and some of them would probably be happy enough if we offered McFadden a three year deal tomorrow. 
 

But absolutely under no circumstances should we be going anywhere near Louis Moult this summer. He’s had his time with us and it’s been and gone. It’s in the past so let’s leave it there and enjoy the memories. 
 

I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up at St.Mirren with Robinson mind you. 

[FirParkCornerExile]

2 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

I know his best days are behind him and his injury record is not the best but he'd still be a big upgrade on the alleged strikers we have now. That said I don't think we should be signing him again.

He's better than anything we have and normally I'm dead against the charity service we offer to former players and yes the pull for Moult is strong because of the feeling he has for the club and vice versa. That said he's one Id take a chance on and add as a squad player, he IS BETTER than what we have , he would not cost a fortune. A one year deal as a squad player is no great risk. Christ we paid £250,000 for AP and I'm still yet to be convinced about him or the fact whether he will actually play for us again. 

[weeyin]

 

3 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

He's better than anything we have and normally I'm dead against the charity service we offer to former players and yes the pull for Moult is strong because of the feeling he has for the club and vice versa. That said he's one Id take a chance on and add as a squad player, he IS BETTER than what we have , he would not cost a fortune. A one year deal as a squad player is no great risk. Christ we paid £250,000 for AP and I'm still yet to be convinced about him or the fact whether he will actually play for us again. 

 

A one year deal for a squad player who we know will struggle to be fit for half a season is a waste of money.

I hope Wimmer has better ideas than that.

Moult was great when he was here. When we sold him, he was crocked and has struggled to play an entire season ever since.

It's a shame for the guy, but we shouldn't be signing him any more than we should have re-signed van Veen.

Bring him back as a coach to teach new signings how to shoot.

 

[FirParkCornerExile]

8 minutes ago, weeyin said:

 

 

A one year deal for a squad player who we know will struggle to be fit for half a season is a waste of money.

I hope Wimmer has better ideas than that.

Moult was great when he was here. When we sold him, he was crocked and has struggled to play an entire season ever since.

It's a shame for the guy, but we shouldn't be signing him any more than we should have re-signed van Veen.

Bring him back as a coach to teach new signings how to shoot.

 

I totally get that and those who wouldn't touch him and many of the reasons they cite are not unreasonable however when you think how much money we've spent for forwards who couldn't score in a barrel of fannies Id take a chance on him.

 

Surprised United they are letting Gallagher go . Thought he did OK for them. 

[Mad Dog]

4 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Bring him back as a coach to teach new signings how to shoot.

 

Isn't that John Obika's job? Unless MW is going to move some of our coaching staff on.

[weeyin]

9 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

Isn't that John Obika's job? Unless MW is going to move some of our coaching staff on.

Good point. Will be interesting to see if there are any coaching changes over the summer.

[joewarkfanclub]

6 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

Correct but younger, with ability and a sell on value would be better, quality over quantity.

I thought that bit went without saying. If they dont have any ability, no one will want them, so there is no sell on value. 🤔🤔🤔

[joewarkfanclub]

If we want to progress and finish higher than the teams above us in the league, I think we need to stop signing players they have let go. They are letting them go for a reason.

Tony Watt should be a great example of that. Similarly with Halliday  albeit he has done a job this season.

There will always be exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking we should be looking at getting younger more dynamic players with a bit of pace (ability) with the prospect of developing them.

We have enough old experienced legs in our squad as it is. Dont think we need any more.

[FirParkCornerExile]

1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said:

If we want to progress and finish higher than the teams above us in the league, I think we need to stop signing players they have let go. They are letting them go for a reason.

Tony Watt should be a great example of that. Similarly with Halliday  albeit he has done a job this season.

There will always be exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking we should be looking at getting younger more dynamic players with a bit of pace (ability) with the prospect of developing them.

We have enough old experienced legs in our squad as it is. Dont think we need any more.

all very laudable but the teams above us afford better players because they have far more money than us. The likelihood of us signing players better than what the top 5 and Hearts can afford is remote. 

[wellgirl]

3 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

He's better than anything we have and normally I'm dead against the charity service we offer to former players and yes the pull for Moult is strong because of the feeling he has for the club and vice versa. That said he's one Id take a chance on and add as a squad player, he IS BETTER than what we have , he would not cost a fortune. A one year deal as a squad player is no great risk. Christ we paid £250,000 for AP and I'm still yet to be convinced about him or the fact whether he will actually play for us again. 

I agree. Id definitely take Moult back. 

[mfc]

Moult was class for us but we shouldn't be looking to sign anyone that can only stay fit half the time.our squad this season has been a shambles and a big part of that has been signing known crocks and players with fitness issues.moult and gallacher are probably better than most of what we have but for me that just highlights how poor our recruitment has been of late.

[thewelllfan]

Moult as much as I loved him the first time around is very injury prone. Is he better than what we have probably but if he can't stay fit he's of no real use. The only former player from Dundee Utd I'd want back is Campbell but even at that not sure he looks the same player he was when he left us only 26 mind you so wouldn't be against it.

[wellsince75]

1 hour ago, thewelllfan said:

Moult as much as I loved him the first time around is very injury prone. Is he better than what we have probably but if he can't stay fit he's of no real use. The only former player from Dundee Utd I'd want back is Campbell but even at that not sure he looks the same player he was when he left us only 26 mind you so wouldn't be against it.

Completely agree

Gallagher is 34 , we had him in his prime 5 years ago .

Moult is now 32 and given the age of our squad he’d be a bit part player . 

The high press will require younger and fitter players . 

Wee Al fits the bill and I’m sure would be more than good enough . 

[wellfan]

I’m not suggesting we should sign Moult again, as I agree with many of the comments above. However, a blind drunk Louis Moult would likely offer more next season than our recent marquee signing ever will. 

[Mad Dog]

Young Max scored his first goal for Sturm Graz this evening.

[joewarkfanclub]

7 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

all very laudable but the teams above us afford better players because they have far more money than us. The likelihood of us signing players better than what the top 5 and Hearts can afford is remote. 

I understand that.

So we need to try and bridge the gap in other ways. 

You dont do that by signing a team full of other teams cast offs.

As I said, there will be exceptions to the rule. Someone like Paul McGinn has done very well for us until his injuries.

Experience will always have its place.

But with SOD, probably Halliday and potentially McGinn all still here next season and Nicholson and Robinson still under contract and likely to be still injured at the start of the season, we need our new recruits to be young and full of energy.

Otherwise we are likely to suffer another season like this one. 

[Yabba's Turd]

1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said:

I understand that.

So we need to try and bridge the gap in other ways. 

You dont do that by signing a team full of other teams cast offs.

As I said, there will be exceptions to the rule. Someone like Paul McGinn has done very well for us until his injuries.

Experience will always have its place.

But with SOD, probably Halliday and potentially McGinn all still here next season and Nicholson and Robinson still under contract and likely to be still injured at the start of the season, we need our new recruits to be young and full of energy.

Otherwise we are likely to suffer another season like this one. 

Player wages = success

[Spit_It_Out]

The problem last season was Kettlewell got a god complex thinking he could turn anything into gold after Bair and sadly it failed so badly we pissed all the Bair money down the drain on two of the worst signings windows I have witnessed at the club.

Signing two players on loan from rival clubs in the same league that were honking that have surprise surprise added nothing to our season another fail due to Kettlewell thinking he was some sort of transfer guru.

Anything is achievable with the right set up but our recruitment seems to be lacking somewhere down the line and for Wimmer to have a chance maybe it needs to be tweaked a bit cause we 100 percent can't go down the same path as we did this season injuries or no injuries the players brought have not really offered us anything at all.

 

 

[wellsince75]

2 hours ago, Spit_It_Out said:

The problem last season was Kettlewell got a god complex thinking he could turn anything into gold after Bair and sadly it failed so badly we pissed all the Bair money down the drain on two of the worst signings windows I have witnessed at the club.

Signing two players on loan from rival clubs in the same league that were honking that have surprise surprise added nothing to our season another fail due to Kettlewell thinking he was some sort of transfer guru.

Anything is achievable with the right set up but our recruitment seems to be lacking somewhere down the line and for Wimmer to have a chance maybe it needs to be tweaked a bit cause we 100 percent can't go down the same path as we did this season injuries or no injuries the players brought have not really offered us anything at all.

 

 

You prompted me to have a look at who we signed and who from SPL clubs. 

From what I can see we must have signed 13 players who have hardly or haven't kicked a ball. 

From Scotland - Callaghan, Robinson, Watt, Tavares all from SPL clubs.

Summer signings  from elsewhere -  Stam  Koutrombis, Stupavic, Hegyi, Kaleta -  almost all a complete waste of time and effort. 

Add to that the winter list of Ward, Plange, Mair, Dickson.  

Honestly would get better joy from a lucky bag. 

[mfc]

Our signing policy has been all over the place this season,wasting limited funds on the likes of callaghan and tavares is pretty gutting.everytime we got an injury there was a replacement brought in,we have piled shite on top of shite all season.i could well be wrong but it looks like we have went daft with the bair money and going to have nothing to show for it.

[grizzlyg]

4 hours ago, Spit_It_Out said:

The problem last season was Kettlewell got a god complex thinking he could turn anything into gold after Bair and sadly it failed so badly we pissed all the Bair money down the drain on two of the worst signings windows I have witnessed at the club.

Signing two players on loan from rival clubs in the same league that were honking that have surprise surprise added nothing to our season another fail due to Kettlewell thinking he was some sort of transfer guru.

Anything is achievable with the right set up but our recruitment seems to be lacking somewhere down the line and for Wimmer to have a chance maybe it needs to be tweaked a bit cause we 100 percent can't go down the same path as we did this season injuries or no injuries the players brought have not really offered us anything at all.

 

 

Hang on?......Kettlewell signed Bair?......no way........he never mentioned that 🤪🤪

[weeyin]

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