wellfan Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 3 minutes ago, mio said: As much as it might annoy people with me praising kettlewell, but it’s arguable that spittal has played his best football under him. It’s fairly obvious that Kettlewell is a good individual man manager/coach, but it’s his overall team management and tactical approach that many of us continue to question. Let’s see how he does this season with his massive squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 23 minutes ago, mio said: As much as it might annoy people with me praising kettlewell, but its arguable that spittal has played his best football under him. Spittal did well under him at Ross county and earned himself a move to us (after failing a bit previously at Dundee Utd) he was rank rotten with us under Alexander and then worse under Hammell and then became one of our most important players under kettlewell again. by all accounts he’s been rotten so far at hearts. To be fair I’ve only seen him last week against us and I didn’t see him do anything until they pulled a goal back and then he was whipped off. i don’t blame him for going and getting his move as I’m sure he’s on a good wedge but I agree I think we’ll see him out on loan to someone else next year. I've got a mate that's a big time Jambo (i know, but don't judge me !) and he says they don't see where Spittal fits in and hasn't done anything so far to make you look up from your bovril. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 Spittal always came across to me as they type of player who played well when we were on top but seemed to disappear when players needed to dig in to get on top or things were going pear shaped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 41 minutes ago, wellfan said: It’s fairly obvious that Kettlewell is a good individual man manager/coach, but it’s his overall team management and tactical approach that many of us continue to question. Let’s see how he does this season with his massive squad. I think thats fair enough comment. Although his in game substitutions have been better in the last 2 games. Something I have been very critical of him for in the past. Hopefully that continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, AllyMax said: I've got a mate that's a big time Jambo (i know, but don't judge me !) and he says they don't see where Spittal fits in and hasn't done anything so far to make you look up from your bovril. By all accounts Naismith played him in a deeper role early in the season, which clearly isn't his strength. Of course, he will take time to adjust to a new system and new team mates, so I wouldn't write him off at this point. I'm not surprised Hearts are struggling, though. I don't rate Naismith as a coach, and they got away with some poor performances under him last season thanks to Shankland's goals. Even when we were bad last season, you could at least see the team had a plan and a shape - we either didn't execute or made stupid mistakes (or both). Hearts just look clueless right now, and long may it continue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 Liam Grimshaw released by Dundee Utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 10 hours ago, AllyMax said: I've got a mate that's a big time Jambo (i know, but don't judge me !) and he says they don't see where Spittal fits in and hasn't done anything so far to make you look up from your bovril. Have said this before , Spittal will get lost in that team and set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 St Mirren sign striker Van Veen on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: St Mirren sign striker Van Veen on loan Well we'll soon find out whether it's a better idea to sign a proven goal scorer or do a Supermarket Sweep charge down the football equivalent of the middle aisle of Aldi. It can't be long now until Las and Robinson have St Mirren playing in Claret and Amber. They are still pining for the Well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 21 hours ago, AllyMax said: I've got a mate that's a big time Jambo (i know, but don't judge me !) and he says they don't see where Spittal fits in and hasn't done anything so far to make you look up from your bovril. He had the perfect situation at Fir Park where he was guaranteed to play 90 minutes every week no matter what and was able to have games when he was totally off the boil or started slowly. At Hearts he has pressure to impress in what will be shorter and shorter appearances and major competition for places. I don't see it suiting him and he'll need a major attitude change from when he was here when he would wave off his own errors then bawl out his team mates if they made mistakes. St Mirren are probably already circling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, steelboy said: He had the perfect situation at Fir Park where he was guaranteed to play 90 minutes every week no matter what and was able to have games when he was totally off the boil or started slowly. At Hearts he has pressure to impress in what will be shorter and shorter appearances and major competition for places. I don't see it suiting him and he'll need a major attitude change from when he was here when he would wave off his own errors then bawl out his team mates if they made mistakes. St Mirren are probably already circling. Of course he is earning significantly more money for him and his family, playing with better players, better facilities, European football etc. But on balance, he probably made the wrong decision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 26 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Of course he is earning significantly more money for him and his family, playing with better players, better facilities, European football etc. But on balance, he probably made the wrong decision! Whether it's the right decision for his career is a totally different question to whether he'll be a success on the park for Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 26 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Of course he is earning significantly more money for him and his family, That's all you had to say re Spittal and his move to Hearts, who can blame him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 No one can blame Spittal for going for the money. At 29 this was probably his last chance at a big move so it was a no brainier for him. But you just feel that playing wise we got the best out of him in his two years there, similar to KvV and at a club like Hearts (and the same would go for Aberdeen and Hibs) where the demands are far higher than they are here he may struggle to be a main player like he was with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron_Mcd Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 Spittal will get lost at Hearts but he's on a 3 year deal so he'll make hunners of money and won't care, if Hearts try to punt him next summer or the summer after a premiership team would still sign him* on the back of last season. *Probably us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 4 hours ago, steelboy said: Well we'll soon find out whether it's a better idea to sign a proven goal scorer or do a Supermarket Sweep charge down the football equivalent of the middle aisle of Aldi. My money is still on 8 league goals or less. I'm confident, however, he'll score more for St Mirren than he did for Killie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Cameron_Mcd said: Spittal will get lost at Hearts but he's on a 3 year deal so he'll make hunners of money and won't care, if Hearts try to punt him next summer or the summer after a premiership team would still sign him* on the back of last season. *Probably us Will he still make hunners of money if hearts get relegated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron_Mcd Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 12 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Will he still make hunners of money if hearts get relegated? They won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, weeyin said: My money is still on 8 league goals or less. I'm confident, however, he'll score more for St Mirren than he did for Killie. How long til he's fit to play for a full game tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 Depends on how many penalties they get. For all his skills, he ain't a St Mirren/Robinson type player. Certainly going to be interesting to see how it pans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 Ollie Shaw……. Goal machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 18 minutes ago, Pettywulliegrew-2 said: Ollie Shaw……. Goal machine Just scored another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 58 minutes for Spittal today. If they don't turn things around in September he'll have a new manager to impress anyway. The Edinburgh journos have knives out for Naismith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 On 8/31/2024 at 10:35 AM, pretzel said: Just scored another. On 8/31/2024 at 10:16 AM, Pettywulliegrew-2 said: Ollie Shaw……. Goal machine Where is he playing now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 3 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Where is he playing now? Accies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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