Ya Bezzer! Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: I am bound to take stick for this but I think Cadden is baws. He's strong and reasonable when it comes to pace. He's been found out at our level by most teams and hasn't put a decent cross in for ages. Wouldn't disagree. He's good at chasing balls but 9 times out of 10 he can't beat a man from a standing start. He can't score (25 league appearances, 0 goals) and he can't cross a ball either. I'm repeating myself but I think Robinson's style of football has not helped his development. All the good football Cadden played was for McGhee. The decline of Cadden almost mirrors exactly the appointment of Robinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Cadden would be served leaving in the summer, he is going backwards under Robinson and we are going to be playing negative football for a good while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Cadden has regressed despite giving his all week in week out. For me, he has the attributes to score and create but the rwb shift isn’t going to get the best out of him. I hope for his own development he gets a decent move in the summer but any chance of getting a £600k+ fee looks to be out the window at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Not a great season in an attacking sense for Cadden and agree with the above that the way we play does not particularly suit him which is a big shame. He was also carrying an injury for a good while which didn't really help. He did start the season scoring though. 4 or 5 in the league cup group and v Ross County I think? So it's in there somewhere. A strong end to the season for him should be the target....or it won't be long until the boo boys are out. Heard a few already sadly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Wouldn't disagree. He's good at chasing balls but 9 times out of 10 he can't beat a man from a standing start. He can't score (25 league appearances, 0 goals) and he can't cross a ball either. I'm repeating myself but I think Robinson's style of football has not helped his development. All the good football Cadden played was for McGhee. The decline of Cadden almost mirrors exactly the appointment of Robinson. I'd agree with this. McGhee clearly lost the plot at some point in the 16/17 season and we're far better off with Robinson. However the way we were set up under McGhee definitely suited some players, with Cadden the obvious one. He's a weird player, but I still think his best position is somewhere between a central midfielder and an out an out winger, in that lopsided 4-3-3 McGhee played. I'm not sure if Cadden has actually regressed over the last year or just reverted back to the mean but it'll be interesting to see where him and Campbell are in five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 19 hours ago, superward said: Not a great season in an attacking sense for Cadden and agree with the above that the way we play does not particularly suit him which is a big shame. He was also carrying an injury for a good while which didn't really help. He did start the season scoring though. 4 or 5 in the league cup group and v Ross County I think? So it's in there somewhere. A strong end to the season for him should be the target....or it won't be long until the boo boys are out. Heard a few already sadly... Was niggling at me...so I did check it out. In all competitions, Cadden has scored 4 goals which leaves him the 4th top scorer in the current squad (Tanner 9, Bowman 7, Main 5, Cadden 4.)) Could be said all lower league opposition except Ross County but important none the less Also looked, and for assists, in the Premiership only (couldn't find all comp stats in the short time I have to look) Cadden is on 5 assists. Second only to Tait on 6 in the current squad and 3 behind most assists in the league. Cadden does have his limitations as others have pointed out and the current system does not suit in my opinion but he clearly contributes. I'd tend to agree with Yassin in that I don't think he has regressed but he has not progressed either and his contribution has been patchy. However, at only 21 I'm not ready to put him out to pasture quite yet.... I've mentioned this before. But, our system is a general bug bear of mine to be honest. Can't argue it's been relatively successful but it's essentially meant the likes of Cadden, Frear, MacLean who all have had success for in the past out wide are asked to play more defensive roles which either does not suit them and/or really restricts their movement forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 I notice there's no Cadden in the Scotland U21 squad on the BBC website despite club Twitter saying he'd been selected... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 He seems to be in the SFA announcement, I noticed the BBC thing too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Kipre called up by Ivory Coast for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 When is Kipre contracted until? Bigger clubs can't be far off trying to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, GazzyB said: When is Kipre contracted until? Bigger clubs can't be far off trying to sign him. We extended him until the summer of 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 I'd be slapping another year or two on that ASAP if it were up to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 International football just got interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Jet feckin lag.........recently thought this guy will make us serious money !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Sure he won’t get jet lag flying from France lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 12 hours ago, GazzyB said: When is Kipre contracted until? Bigger clubs can't be far off trying to sign him. Alan Burrows was on Twitter yesterday saying that there are "(Much) bigger clubs circling" and that Kipré is "courting interest from BIG clubs in England and abroad". Make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Some big (no capital b) were circling in January. I fully expect expect him to move on in the summer. Circling predators already know the club's valuation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilwell86 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Any idea who any of these clubs are looking at kipre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Richie said: Alan Burrows was on Twitter yesterday saying that there are "(Much) bigger clubs circling" and that Kipré is "courting interest from BIG clubs in England and abroad". Make of that what you will. I have thought since January that our back three next season will be Dunne, Hartley and Aldred. Which I could live with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezz Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 I have thought since January that our back three next season will be Dunne, Hartley and Aldred. Which I could live with... I could absolutely live with that but I’m not 100% convinced Dunne will still be here next season. It’s all been suspiciously quiet regarding is contract extension the manager said he was only a few games away from triggering back in January, and given his performances since that time I wouldn’t be surprised if League One or lower Championship clubs would take a punt on him if they can get him for free. His power and pace suits that level of English football perfectly and he appears to be over his injury problems he had before he joined. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoojy Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 From the TwoPointOne Quote Cedric Kipre Finally we have Kipre. The central defender joined Motherwell in the summer after he was released by Leicester City and immediately hit the ground running. We weren’t even passed the month of August before Motherwell had tied him down to a contract extension and as such he was on his way to becoming a hero with ‘Well fans. If you were building a physical prototype of a centre back, this player wouldn’t look too far away from that prototype. Kipre is around 6ft 4in, exceptional body strength and is faster than most central midfield players, never mind centre backs. Statistically, 21-year old Kipre is an absolute demon. From those CBs with over half the minutes played this season Kipre ranks a close second in the rate of defensive duels won, first in total interceptions and first in interceptions per 90 mins. Sure, defensive metrics can be generated by what style of team you play on – for example, a team with little possession is likely to have high defensive numbers due to how often they are without the ball – but Motherwell rank around mid-table in ball possession. More impressive than what Kipre does is actually how he does it. The Motherwell defender gets so many interceptions because he’s incredibly proactive. Defenders tend to win the ball from strikers, but Kipre makes sure he has the ball before the striker can control it. His quickness of mind and foot allows him to start attacks and transitions for Motherwell. At 21 years old Kipre has huge potential and will hopefully bring a decent fee should Motherwell want to sell him. Also in the article that Aldred is 3rd in the league for most aerial duels won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Cadden and Campbell both starting in Andorra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1-0 to Andorra. 15 to go. Scotland are terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, steelboy said: 1-0 to Andorra. 15 to go. Scotland are terrible. Agree - Andorra deservedly ahead. Not one of these players are near proper international football. Campbell and cadden have been shite - tho they are not alone to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Turned off during the 1st half. Utterly grim tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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