postiejim Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I think it's a question worth asking at this stage of the campaign and considering the way were playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergi4 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 McGhee out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellarmy Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I don't think getting rid of him the now would be in the best interests of anybody to be fair. I'd replace him in the summer even if we stay up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Made Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Now that was quick.... I didn't expect to see that question just yet. I have a feeling that although the fans feel the nail loosening the Board may not. Especially as we'd have to pay him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dossertillidie Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 McGhee will remain until he decides to leave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 McGhee has three seasons at the club and our lowest finish is 7th. He's got a decent track record, a lot of experience and has done well in terms of bringing youth players through. Getting rid of the manager does nothing to change the fact that we are running a professional football club on a small budget, that we will only be able to afford mostly mediocre players, that about half the clubs in the league are operating on a completely different financial scale and a bunch of other factors that put us where we are. I don't think a lot of our fans really appreciate what a tremendously difficult job Mark McGhee is doing right now. Maybe when he does leave it will suddenly sink in and we get some new Barraclough type. Remember St. Mirren fans hounding Danny Lennon out because the football wasn't good enough and they ought to be Top 6? They will be playing in a league where the average attendance is a 300 or so next season. Be careful what you wish for. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 No secret I have a personal dislike for McGhee, something that I've tried to put to the side this time round despite thinking he has performed below par this season. Today, he has left me scunnered with his overly cautious tactics, tactics that seen us beat before we go on the park. The indefensible decision to replace Chalmers with a right back rookie underlined our inferiority complex. I'm not naive enough to think we will ditch him just now but I'd be very disappointed to see us offer him a new contract. Don't get me wrong, he has done well at complying with the club blueprint in terms of developing Hall, Cadden and one or two others. That said, as one of the better paid managers in the league and having inherited some talented players, he has underperformed imo. If he was likeable guy with a bit of bottle I'd maybe give him the benefit of the doubt but unfortunately he's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Now that was quick.... I didn't expect to see that question just yet. I have a feeling that although the fans feel the nail loosening the Board may not. Especially as we'd have to pay him off. Only 12 games till the split and I think we've got him no matter what happens. imho the present team is worse than the team that won the play off. Yes we can still stay up, lots to play for but it's getting tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dossertillidie Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 McGhee has three seasons at the club and our lowest finish is 7th. He's got a decent track record, a lot of experience and has done well in terms of bringing youth players through. Getting rid of the manager does nothing to change the fact that we are running a professional football club on a small budget, that we will only be able to afford mostly mediocre players, that about half the clubs in the league are operating on a completely different financial scale and a bunch of other factors that put us where we are. I don't think a lot of our fans really appreciate what a tremendously difficult job Mark McGhee is doing right now. Maybe when he does leave it will suddenly sink in and we get some new Barraclough type. Remember St. Mirren fans hounding Danny Lennon out because the football wasn't good enough and they ought to be Top 6? They will be playing in a league where the average attendance is a 300 or so next season. Be careful what you wish for. Very hard not to agree with all of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeofSteel Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wouldn't get rid of him until the end of the season but if any Motherwell fan thinks he is doing a good job I think you are kidding yourself. Granted, we had good finish's the previous two seasons, it is clear this season McGhee has took his eye of the ball. Staying down south and coming up to train the players on a Wednesday is not acceptable and clearly a factor in why the stamina of the players is so bad. He hung Mcmillan out to dry today. He has given the youth a chance but to bring a RB back on at left mid completely killed the game for us and his arrogance meant he didn't change it until they scored. The sooner he leaves the club the better at the end of the season with us hopefully still in the top flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I agree with ya beezers post to some extent. However he is not doing himself any favours with some of his selections and tactics - one up front with a 50yard gap to Craig clay Chris cadden and jack McMillan who we are relying on for creativity. Clay well we all know he is garbage, cadden is woefully out of form and jack McMillan is a right back playing left wing. We would struggle to break down championship teams with that fairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Key aim for the season? I would say staying up. Do i think McGhee will keep us up? Yes, I do. So quite happy for him to stay. He won't be fired any way, so it's a non discussion really. There are however some seriously worrying points. The players don't seem as fit as their rivals. This is a surprise given McGhee's 1st spell in charge. He has signed some utter dross, we're getting near Baraclough levels of throwing enough shite at the wall and hoping some it sticks. Let's see what shape we're in come the end of this window. There will come a time when it is best for us to part ways, now is not it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 If we lose the next five which is possible he'll resign. Ross County is massive for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 He gets to the end of the season for me. If we sacked managers every time we play poorly against Rangers we'd need 3 or 4 managers a season How we have performed the last couple of seasons is about average for us in the SP(F)L. I'm disappointed with the overall form, but more encouraged by the young players we have brought through. We have missed Marvin more than I thought so hopefully the new winger will give us that extra dimension we are missing from last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 We're at one win in nine just now. He needs three points soon or he has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wouldn't get rid of him until the end of the season but if any Motherwell fan thinks he is doing a good job I think you are kidding yourself. Granted, we had good finish's the previous two seasons, it is clear this season McGhee has took his eye of the ball. Staying down south and coming up to train the players on a Wednesday is not acceptable and clearly a factor in why the stamina of the players is so bad. He hung Mcmillan out to dry today. He has given the youth a chance but to bring a RB back on at left mid completely killed the game for us and his arrogance meant he didn't change it until they scored. The sooner he leaves the club the better at the end of the season with us hopefully still in the top flight. WTF has McGhees commute to work got to do with the players stammina are you suggesting that the dont try at training unless he is there? And bringing on Mcmillan never killed the game our midfield being utter pish and the rest of the team sitting back and letting Rangers pass us of the park killed the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeofSteel Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 WTF has McGhees commute to work got to do with the players stammina are you suggesting that the dont try at training unless he is there? And bringing on Mcmillan never killed the game our midfield being utter pish and the rest of the team sitting back and letting Rangers pass us of the park killed the game. Yes. McGhee is in charge of making sure the team is fit for the level we are playing at and if he isn't there to oversee it and the stamina is as bad as it is there has to be an element of that which is down to our manager not being there to train them. We clearly watched a different game then as every time the ball went to the left mcmillan had to turn in and the momentum stopped. Not the boys fault but the fact he isn't a left winger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace_MFC Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 No. Mcghee should be well capable of keeping us in the league. Only at the end of the season should we be discussing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 WTF has McGhees commute to work got to do with the players stammina are you suggesting that the dont try at training unless he is there? And bringing on Mcmillan never killed the game our midfield being utter pish and the rest of the team sitting back and letting Rangers pass us of the park killed the game. The manager not turning up sets the tone. Easy money for everyone at the club, very little effort required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergi4 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 The manager not turning up sets the tone. Easy money for everyone at the club, very little effort required. Sounds about right to me. If you are happy non-contesting games against the old firm, McGhee gets us by. However, fans are paying extra at the gate or in the season book for these games, so we are being shortchanged and have a right to question negative / clueless tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I would agree with that. Shocking that McGhee gets a full time wage to fuck off to England and see his family for extended periods. It should have been made clear at the start. Move your family up or dont take the job. I moved away from my Mrs and kids for work and had to see them in my own time! Id have fucking loved to be able to piss off for a couple days a week to see them and get paid for doing so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dossertillidie Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Not sure where this chat of him being down south has come from. That was in his first spell. I'm led to believe he spends the week up here and a sun/mon down south when visiting family. Don't see anything wrong with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMWellfan Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Burrows is more culpable than McGhee. He sanctioned the signings at one point of 8 players aged 32 and over in our squad. They can both go together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decorator Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 get stubbs in now before its to late ws should be giving the club some money for him now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dossertillidie Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Burrows is more culpable than McGhee. He sanctioned the signings at one point of 8 players aged 32 and over in our squad. They can both go together. Wondered when he would get the blame You employ a manager for a reason, you have to trust that manager to mould ,develop and build the team. Unless you think your mr Romanov then I don't think you should be stepping in as a Chief operating officer and passing judgment on a players age. Nothing to do with burrows,unfair to blame him for "sanctioning" players who are under performing Just my opinion mind you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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