underboyleheating Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Season - 2010/2011 finished 6thSeason - 2011/2012 finished 3rdSeason - 2011/2012 finished 2ndSeason - 2013/2014 finished 2ndSeason - 2014/2015 finished 11thSeason - 2015/2016 finished 5thI hate using the term, ‘punching above our weight’, however, in the halcyon days when we were finishing 3rd or 2nd, we were doing just that. In the last two seasons St Johnstone have been situated above us in the league. And I would now suggest that they are replacing us as the new ‘punching above their weight’ champions. They are now the standard by which I judge our weekly performances. My reasoning behind this is that they probably have a similar yearly budget to us. However, they recently appear to be having a greater week in, week out success.So what is Tommy Wright doing that Mark McGhee isn’t? Is he a better tactician? Is he better in the transfer market? Is he a better man manager? Or, is he due for a fall from grace? Whilst he hasn’t attained the giddy heights of 2nd or 3rd, he has at least delivered some silverware to Perth in his tenure. Something we have not achieved since the days of Tommy McLean. They are currently joint 5th in the league with 31 points, although they have played a game more than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 St Johnstone have kept the core of their team together and are a bit more careful with their signings than us. The sore point just now is that Killie are out performing us despite being a shambles from top to bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 It just comes down to players in the end. St. Johnstone can put out Alston, Wotherspoon, Davidson, Swanson, Paton, Liam Craig and Chris Millar in midfield. Pick any 4 out of the 7 and its better than any midfield we can put out. St. Johnstone have also tended to have a different recruitment approach, generally bringing in proven players at this level - Easton, Foster, Alston, Swanson, Shaughnessy etc, they all played in this league before. Sell on potential is probably not that great but overall they tend to get less garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Sell on potential is probably not that great but overall they tend to get less garbage. I suppose we are gambling on selling an unknown player on, rather then relying on the tried and tested pro. However, we do still have a few experienced premiership players in our squad, such as McManus, Skippy, Lasley, Hammell, Samson and McFadden. You could also include Ainsworth in that list as he is certainly not new to this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just watched hi lights of St j v Accies.........how Accies lost 3-0 Reminded me of our Higdon season2012-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I posted this back in March in a different thread, but if anyone is in any doubt what our standing in the SP(F)L is since its inception and how we measure up, here it is again. We have been relegated twice. Been in the relegation spot twice, but saved due to reconstruction and the all-seater stadium rule. Finished one place above relegation 4 times and avoided relegation by winning a play-off once.Our combined average position is 6.97 (without adjusting for the fact some seasons were 10 team leagues and others 12)In 10 team leagues, our average position is 7.06In 12 team leagues, our average position is 5For stats junkies, our Median position is 7.5 and Mode is 8 (which means we have finished 8th more than any other position)Our position in Div 1 are not included in the stats.75-76 4th from 10 (2 relegated) - Ian St John was the gaffer that season!76-77 7th from 10 (2 relegated)77-78 6th from 10 (2 relegated)78-79 10th from 10 RELEGATED79-80 6th in Div 180-81 5th in Div 181-82 1st in Div 182-83 8th from 10 (2 relegated)83-84 10th from 10 RELEGATED84-85 1st in Div 185-86 9th from 10 (saved from relegation by reconstruction)86-87 8th from 12 (2 relegated)87-88 8th from 12 (3 relegated)88-89 9th from 10 (1 relegated)89-90 6th from 10 (1 relegated)90-91 6th from 10 (no relegation due to reconstruction)91-92 10th from 12 (2 relegated)92-93 9th from 12 (2 relegated)93-94 3rd from 12 (3 relegated)94-95 2nd from 10 (1 relegated, 1 play-off)95-96 8th from 10 (2 relegated)96-97 8th from 10 (1 relegated, 1 play-off)97-98 9th from 10 (1 relegated)98-99 7th from 10 (1 relegated)99-00 4th from 10 (no relegation due to reconstruction)00-01 8th from 12 (1 relegated)01-02 11th from 12 (1 relegated)02-03 12th from 12 (saved from relegation by Falkirk's stadium)03-04 6th from 12 (1 relegated)04-05 6th from 12 (1 relegated)05-06 8th from 12 (1 relegated)06-07 10th from 12 (1 relegated)07-08 3rd from 12 (Gretna!)08-09 7th from 12 (1 relegated)09-10 5th from 12 (1 relegated)10-11 6th from 12 (1 relegated)11-12 3rd from 12 (1 relegated)12-13 2nd from 12 (1 relegated)13-14 2nd from 12 (2 relegated, 1 via play-off)14-15 11th from 12 (won play off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellarmy Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Some golden years in there, even although I was only 6 at the time we should've won the league in 94. IIRC we lost 3 times to a relegated St Johnstone that season. 2 wins and a draw against them would've won the league in a 2 point system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Looking from 2000 where the modern era really began and money took over (also when the league settled 12 team league) shows we're a solid middle of the road Premiership Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 we're a solid middle of the road Premiership Team The same could be said about both Hibernian and Dundee United, and they were relegated to the championship. It was different for St.Mirren as they regularly flirted with the drop. And possibly could drop even further. Who knows what could happen to us if we suffered the same fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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