Goggles & Flippers Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Did this a few years ago and its seems apt. If we do go for Robinson to get us over the line until the summer or we go for a manager for the future it's imperative that we retain SPFL status for major financial implications this summer. 5 games left to play, top 6 would be a relief. My guesses are in red. I don't think we'll do it but should be safe post split. Current League Table (28 games) Partick 33 -------------------- Kilmarnock 31 Dundee 30 Ross County 28 Motherwell 27 Accies 24 ICT 23 Partick Thistle (total 5): Kilmarnock v Partick Thistle - 1 point Partick Thistle v Ross County - 3 points Celtic v Partick Thistle - 0 points Partick Thistle v Motherwell - 1 point Rangers v Partick Thistle - 0 points Killie (total 1): Kilmarnock v Partick Thistle - 1 point Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Kilmarnock - 0 points Kilmarnock v Rangers - 0 points Celtic v Kilmarnock - 0 points Kilmarnock v Heart of Midlothian - 0 points Dundee (total 6): Dundee v Celtic - 0 points Dundee v Aberdeen - 0 points Ross County v Dundee - 3 points Heart of Midlothian v Dundee - 0 points Dundee v Hamilton Academical - 3 points Ross County (total 1): Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Ross County - 1 point Partick Thistle v Ross County - 0 points Ross County v Dundee - 0 points Hamilton Academical v Ross County - 0 points Ross County v Celtic - 0 points Us (total 8 ): Motherwell v St Johnstone - 1 point Rangers v Motherwell - 0 points Motherwell v Hamilton Academical - 3 points Partick Thistle v Motherwell - 1 point Motherwell v Inverness Caledonian Thistle - 3 points Accies (total 4): Rangers v Hamilton Academical - 0 points Hamilton Academical v St Johnstone - 1 points Motherwell v Hamilton Academical - 0 points Hamilton Academical v Ross County - 3 points Dundee v Hamilton Academical - 0 points ICT (total 4): Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Ross County - 1 points Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Kilmarnock - 3 points Aberdeen v Inverness Caledonian Thistle - 0 points Inverness Caledonian Thistle v St Johnstone - 0 points Motherwell v Inverness Caledonian Thistle - 0 points Table at Split (wishful thinking) Partick 38 ---------------------- Dundee 36 Motherwell 35 Killie 32 Ross County 29 Accies 28 ICT 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Having games against Partick, ict, and accies pre-split, with the latter two at home gives us a great chance to ensure our own safety early. Is there a break in between these fixtures? Dundee have the worst of the fixtures, and I think Partick will sneak 6th, although a win for us this week could make it interesting. Getting at least a point though would take the pressure off a little for the trip to ibrox, where a result isn't totally out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 For us it is, playoffs apart, it seems we're back to normal service against NewCo as it was since 2001 or whatever when the woeful record started. A break? Don't know if you mean between the regular season and post split or the fixtures I listed (if its the latter most of the games for the majority of clubs are weekend's with one midweek fixture on the 4th/5th of April) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 There's a week off between the st j and rangers games, that's what I was thinking of, followed by 3 games in a week. If nothing else, if we can negotiate the st Johnstone game, we have a couple of weeks to get injuries sorted and get acquainted to the new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezz Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 The three games in the space of a week against Thistle, Accies and Inverness are huge. Wins against the latter two should see us going into the split with a bit of a cushion, especially if we get get some points out of the St J and Partick games. I think Partick will get the top 6 spot quite comfortably but after that it's anyone's guess. Ross County are on a bad run at the minute, and Killie and Dundee probably have the hardest run ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleeastdave Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just wondering when do we expect McManus back playing with us? I take it will not be until after the split? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Out the bottom seven teams.... we have the lowest point return against the top 5............taken a measly One point The next two games are vital that we get something from Most of our rivals have managed to beat either the sheep or currant buns .....these "bonus points" have either kept them in touch or above us . Except Killie and Partick.....who have managed to beat st John or Hertz Partick have only lost one game against the bottom 7 opposition ........us Some body puts 2/3 results together pre split could see them safe Let's get some points on the board..........feck the play offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Would pretty much agree with that but dont think Dundee will pick up 6 points and dont see us getting anything at Partick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Is like to think we could take 7/8 points from the next 5 games but I can't see us taking any more than 4 points, possibly less, and if that comes to pass then we're fucked. I think we'll lose, albeit probably narrowly, on Saturday and then get horsed at Ibrox. We'll then win one, lose one and draw one in the Thistle, Accies and Inverness games although I'm not sure in what order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just wondering when do we expect McManus back playing with us? I take it will not be until after the split? 6 weeks from the injury I think was the diagnosis . Start of April? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellarmy Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 At least 7 points is a must but why not 15? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I’ve accepted that we will be in the bottom 6. 10th will do me, and then regroup next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I have seen us relegated a couple of times, and seen us avoid it a few times due to league reconstruction, stadium rules etc. Any season where we don't get relegated is a good one. Might not be a great one, but definitely a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnymfc Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Im going for 10 pts, we will lose against Rangers, and draw with St Johnstone and win the other 3, definitely winnable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I have seen us relegated a couple of times, and seen us avoid it a few times due to league reconstruction, stadium rules etc. Any season where we don't get relegated is a good one. Might not be a great one, but definitely a good one. I know where you are coming from, but no. We have been in the top league for 30+ years now. Its the accepted norm. In those 30 years yes we have had a few seasons dicing with going down, but not overwhelmingly every season, and if you look more recently, we are more likely to be fighting for the top 3 positions, at least over the last 10 years. Yes, for older punters who have lived through relegations, not going down is good, but the reality is that that is now history, times have moved on. We now have multiple generations who have never seen it, and it certainly is not the norm for Motherwell to be relegated. For these fans, avoiding relegation should not be seen and will not be seen as a good season. Infact, avoiding it by the skin of our teeth is a bad season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I agree it's not every season, but if you look a post I made a few weeks ago that lists our position every season since the SPL was created, the position we have finished most often is 8th. The recent run of success has been great, but it's not typical, and even the Board said it led to unrealistic expectations when it came to budgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 The recent run of success also occurred at the same time as Rangers, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee United all struggling. Next season at least 3 of those 4 will all be back in the top league and those 3 will all have bigger budgets to play with than us. Add in Celtic and Aberdeen, then you could argue a realistically good season is 6th. Below that we are in a relegation scrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Partick are safe already in my opinion. I tipped them for Top 6 at the beginning of the season. I think they have probably the best squad in the 'pack', Alan Archibald has done a tremendous job as manager there and their defensive record is highly impressive. In fact if the points had been wiped out at New Year Partick would be third in the league in 2017. Weirdly Kilmarnock have shown enough this season, despite all the huge player turnover, back room turmoil, and managerial changes to stay up. They tend to pull out a win here or there when not expected. I think they will be OK. Dundee have probably the toughest run up to the split and if I was a Dee I'd be a little nervous. We all saw them demolish us but by all accounts they haven't been playing well and St. Johnstone turned them over pretty easy last week. I think they might be sweating a bit going into the break as I can't see them picking up too many points in the run in. Ross County have been poor this season and they have lost 7 out of the last 10. The weekends match against Inverness will be huge for them. Lose and they could be in really big trouble. Accies will be in the bottom two. They have done very well to stay in the league the past couple of seasons but I think there time is just about up. Not won away from home all season. Despite being bottom Inverness have been in pretty decent form, they have only lost 1 of their last 6 matches. As I said above the Ross County match is going to be huge for both clubs. If they can win it I think they have a decent chance of getting out of the relegation places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted March 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I think Killie have the harder run in than Dundee and thats why I gave them a point. OF and Hearts, away to the furthest geographically and as you point out, one of the best performers since the turn of the year this Saturday. Safe to say teams like that have made hay while the sun shined in terms of fixtures before now, we have an easier run in because we played more of the tougher teams, we now have to capitalise on points from those in and around us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Hopefully we'll see wins for us, Killie and Ross County this weekend with Partick, Inverness, Accies and Dundee losing. 45-1 with Bet365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Partick and Dundee will be fine Killie can be pulled right into it, while ourselves and Ross County, are teetering on giving a horribly poor Accies team and an ICT team managed by Richie Foran a life line. For me, Accies and ICT are clearly the two worst in the league, and we should gain enough points to finish at least 10th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Partick and Dundee will be fine Killie can be pulled right into it, while ourselves and Ross County, are teetering on giving a horribly poor Accies team and an ICT team managed by Richie Foran a life line. For me, Accies and ICT are clearly the two worst in the league, and we should gain enough points to finish at least 10th Frankly Ive seen us play every bit as poorly as Accies and ICT, Ive seen about 4 hours of decent Football all season. I dont think its quite so clear cut that Accies and ICT are clearly the two worst teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Ironically, one of Accies' advantages is their appalling plastic surface while our billiard table pitch allows good teams to play well against us. Of course, it should be to our advantage too if we start stringing a few passes together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Dont waste your money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Did this a few years ago and its seems apt. If we do go for Robinson to get us over the line until the summer or we go for a manager for the future it's imperative that we retain SPFL status for major financial implications this summer. 5 games left to play, top 6 would be a relief. My guesses are in red. I don't think we'll do it but should be safe post split. Current League Table (28 games) Partick 33 -------------------- Kilmarnock 31 Dundee 30 Ross County 28 Motherwell 27 Accies 24 ICT 23 Partick Thistle (total 5): Kilmarnock v Partick Thistle - 1 point Partick Thistle v Ross County - 3 points Celtic v Partick Thistle - 0 points Partick Thistle v Motherwell - 1 point Rangers v Partick Thistle - 0 points Killie (total 1): Kilmarnock v Partick Thistle - 1 point Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Kilmarnock - 0 points Kilmarnock v Rangers - 0 points Celtic v Kilmarnock - 0 points Kilmarnock v Heart of Midlothian - 0 points Dundee (total 6): Dundee v Celtic - 0 points Dundee v Aberdeen - 0 points Ross County v Dundee - 3 points Heart of Midlothian v Dundee - 0 points Dundee v Hamilton Academical - 3 points Ross County (total 1): Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Ross County - 1 point Partick Thistle v Ross County - 0 points Ross County v Dundee - 0 points Hamilton Academical v Ross County - 0 points Ross County v Celtic - 0 points Us (total 8 ): Motherwell v St Johnstone - 1 point Rangers v Motherwell - 0 points Motherwell v Hamilton Academical - 3 points Partick Thistle v Motherwell - 1 point Motherwell v Inverness Caledonian Thistle - 3 points Accies (total 4): Rangers v Hamilton Academical - 0 points Hamilton Academical v St Johnstone - 1 points Motherwell v Hamilton Academical - 0 points Hamilton Academical v Ross County - 3 points Dundee v Hamilton Academical - 0 points ICT (total 4): Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Ross County - 1 points Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Kilmarnock - 3 points Aberdeen v Inverness Caledonian Thistle - 0 points Inverness Caledonian Thistle v St Johnstone - 0 points Motherwell v Inverness Caledonian Thistle - 0 points Table at Split (wishful thinking) Partick 38 ---------------------- Dundee 36 Motherwell 35 Killie 32 Ross County 29 Accies 28 ICT 27 Just about right all round except our duds. We are the ones who will put ourselves down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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