MelvinBragg Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 In robbos Interview he bemoaned having to change how we play, and that weve had to use perceived ball players so that really points to bigi, as theres no one in that team who is perceive as a ball player otherwise.Haven't seen his interview yet, but if he's complaining about 'having to' use ball players then sounds like he's admitting to being a one dimensional long ball manager. Which may well be true but odd if a manager admits it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 For a guy who says he doesnt like to single out players in public, he sure likes to single out players in public 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Haven't seen his interview yet, but if he's complaining about 'having to' use ball players then sounds like he's admitting to being a one dimensional long ball manager. Which may well be true but odd if a manager admits it... By and large. I enjoy listening to Robinson pre and post match but I fear one or two cracks are starting to appear. In recent weeks he has singled players out, reiterated the point that what happens between both boxes doesnt matter and suggested ball players dont work. This doesnt bode well for the future but hopefully the break has came at a good time for all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 By and large. I enjoy listening to Robinson pre and post match but I fear one or two cracks are starting to appear. In recent weeks he has singled players out, reiterated the point that what happens between both boxes doesnt matter and suggested ball players dont work. This doesnt bode well for the future but hopefully the break has came at a good time for all. I thought he was just being honest. First of all he at least recognised that Allan Campbell is the guy that brings the team together and gives us shape and a bit of drive. I wish he'd recognised that for the Final and I wish he'd recognised that over this terrible run when he's had Campbell in and out of the team but at least he's seen it today. As for misfiring forwards and not winning second balls what is he supposed to say? It's apparent to everyone and he'd said anything else you'd be having a go at him for being delusional. I think the word 'perceived' was important in the other point. They are perceived ball players, ie, are supposed to be but aren't and that's been there for everyone to see over the last few weeks. So we are stuck with Robinson's retrogressive style. Robinson is right to say the success came with 'his' style of football but I think the reasons are deeper than just a style. Louis Moult was a huge part of it, and as I've said elsewhere we were a bit lucky in some matches (particular the two home wins against Ross County and Kilmarnock) and had a run of winnable home matches so I don't think even with players coming back from injury and him being able to play the side he really wants to will actually be the answer. It's an interview where he's basically spelt out what hes all about and you can run with it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Agenda? We are bottom of the form table and the team in 10th has TWICE as many points as us. We haven't won at Fir Park since September. We've lost 6 consecutive away league matches. We have 1 clean sheet in our last 11 matches. I'm afraid there's a problem and it's a fact that we are on one of our worst runs this decade. It's where you finish that's counts and the real league table not the made up form one, so just in case you had forgot we are 8th, 2pts off top 6, and 4 clear of the playoff spot so improvement needed yes but no need for panic yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacol Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 He's about the only one in the full squad who can play a forward pass. MacLean came on today and played the best through ball of the game and Bowman should have done a lot more with the opportunity. I maybe wrong but it was one of the very few passes played through centrally everything else seemed to be played wide hoping on a cross into the box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 It's where you finish that's counts and the real league table not the made up form one, so just in case you had forgot we are 8th, 2pts off top 6, and 4 clear of the playoff spot so improvement needed yes but no need for panic yet. True but if you are looking to plan for the future, form has to play a part in the projection. And it's not as if we are roughly equivalent to other teams at the bottom of the form table, we are miles behind. Partick Thistle have picked up twice as many points as us over the last 10 games and they are third bottom. Our form is frankly catastrophic. Motherwell now are on the worst run of any team in the division this season. We probably need about 17 points to achieve safety in the league, on current form we would require more than 30 matches to get those points. It's bad. Oh, and we've lost to Ross County, Kilmarnock, Partick Thistle, Hamilton and scrapped a draw at home to Dundee thanks to a penalty. If you're not concerned I salute your indefatigability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 True but if you are looking to plan for the future, form has to play a part in the projection. And it's not as if we are roughly equivalent to other teams at the bottom of the form table, we are miles behind. Partick Thistle have picked up twice as many points as us over the last 10 games and they are third bottom. Our form is frankly catastrophic. Motherwell now are on the worst run of any team in the division this season. We probably need about 17 points to achieve safety in the league, on current form we would require more than 30 matches to get those points. It's bad. Oh, and we've lost to Ross County, Kilmarnock, Partick Thistle, Hamilton and scrapped a draw at home to Dundee thanks to a penalty. If you're not concerned I salute your indefatigability. 100% I noticed a change in mood from the fans after ibrox, the tin lid was put on it today, but they warning signs were there at Firhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 MacLean came on today and played the best through ball of the game and Bowman should have done a lot more with the opportunity. I maybe wrong but it was one of the very few passes played through centrally everything else seemed to be played wide hoping on a cross into the box. McLean did more today in his brief cameo than many of his team mates have done combined in December. So the question is, with all the injuries etc, why has he not featured more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 On plus side...2pts off the top six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 For a guy who says he doesnt like to single out players in public, he sure likes to single out players in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... milo Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 We need 2 strikers, a creative midfielder, a centre half and if I was being greedy, a left and right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Clackscat Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Well as a self confessed happy clapper I have to say I have serious concerns after today. When your best player drops a clanger then stupidly gets himself red carded, when the team plays without cohesion, stucture, or belief, and when you sense a change of mood in the crowd its probably just as well we have a break and a transfer window coming up. Tanner the only shining light today, and McLean looked capable when he came on. I really don't get the 'its what you do in both boxes' mantra and I must have fallen asleep at times today because I didn't see a string of missed chances. I saw forwards getting very little to work with and a defence given little cover. Tanner apart we have zero creativity. We are not controlling games in the middle of the park and our problems are stemming from there. Bad bad day and pressure is on Robbo to sort it. For the first time I have doubts he can and I feel terrible for saying that so soon after praising him earlier. I cannot remember such a negative turn round in form in such a short period of time. Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... weeyin Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 We need 2 strikers, a creative midfielder, a centre half and if I was being greedy, a left and right back. I agree with that - we might have cover for left back if Plummer ever gets fit - but that remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... smiddy Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I agree with that - we might have cover for left back if Plummer ever gets fit - but that remains to be seen. plummer isn't a player,,,,,,heez the handyman that sorts the burst pipes around the ground,allegedly ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 We definitely need cover for right back, so Id expect us to bring in a right sided version of dunne - i.e. can play center back or right back. I doubt well bring in another central midfielder unless we unexpectedly lose someone. We have more numbers there than any other position, with mchugh, campbell, rose, grimshaw and bigi for central positions and cadden, frear and tanner for attacking/wide positions. Maybe a right sided winger? Id agree with two forwards being needed, Fisher and bowman are at best bench players for any other team in our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... dossertillidie Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I agree with that - we might have cover for left back if Plummer ever gets fit - but that remains to be seen. Plummer I dont think will play again, think we will see a left back, centre half and a forward come in and that will be it By god could we do with double that though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Not sure why we would bring in a left back. Dunne is clearly first choice, with Hammell behind him, possibly Plummer and then livingstone in the u20s, and tait who can fill in on the left. On the right it seems we have tait and cadden. If we return to the back 3, we could probably do better than frear at left wing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... TAM Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Heard a few names mentioned today. If true, we could be looking to bring in a centre half, a midfielder and a striker all currently playing with teams in the play-off positions in the championship (Scottish one!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Woooo, skippy comeback! Assuming its the promotion playoff places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Lobey_Dosser Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Heard a few names mentioned today. If true, we could be looking to bring in a centre half, a midfielder and a striker all currently playing with teams in the play-off positions in the championship (Scottish one!) Interesting, there has been more noise than usual about signings from Scotland. Assuming you are referring to the promotion playoff spots, Craig Halkett would be the name that springs to mind. And we were strongly linked with Keatings in the summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Do we have he kind of money to buy players from these teams? Id like the approach if we did start bringing in players from Scottish teams, but unless they are guys not getting games, or maybe out of contract players signing pre-contracts, Im not sure how were going to pull that off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... weeyin Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Woooo, skippy comeback! Assuming its the promotion playoff places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Yassin Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Heard a few names mentioned today. If true, we could be looking to bring in a centre half, a midfielder and a striker all currently playing with teams in the play-off positions in the championship (Scottish one!)Sounds versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... joewarkfanclub Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Bigi has talent but he is failing to deliver. He takes way too much time on the ball before playing a pass. If we can offload him we should. 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milo Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 We need 2 strikers, a creative midfielder, a centre half and if I was being greedy, a left and right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackscat Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Well as a self confessed happy clapper I have to say I have serious concerns after today. When your best player drops a clanger then stupidly gets himself red carded, when the team plays without cohesion, stucture, or belief, and when you sense a change of mood in the crowd its probably just as well we have a break and a transfer window coming up. Tanner the only shining light today, and McLean looked capable when he came on. I really don't get the 'its what you do in both boxes' mantra and I must have fallen asleep at times today because I didn't see a string of missed chances. I saw forwards getting very little to work with and a defence given little cover. Tanner apart we have zero creativity. We are not controlling games in the middle of the park and our problems are stemming from there. Bad bad day and pressure is on Robbo to sort it. For the first time I have doubts he can and I feel terrible for saying that so soon after praising him earlier. I cannot remember such a negative turn round in form in such a short period of time. Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 We need 2 strikers, a creative midfielder, a centre half and if I was being greedy, a left and right back. I agree with that - we might have cover for left back if Plummer ever gets fit - but that remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I agree with that - we might have cover for left back if Plummer ever gets fit - but that remains to be seen. plummer isn't a player,,,,,,heez the handyman that sorts the burst pipes around the ground,allegedly ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 We definitely need cover for right back, so Id expect us to bring in a right sided version of dunne - i.e. can play center back or right back. I doubt well bring in another central midfielder unless we unexpectedly lose someone. We have more numbers there than any other position, with mchugh, campbell, rose, grimshaw and bigi for central positions and cadden, frear and tanner for attacking/wide positions. Maybe a right sided winger? Id agree with two forwards being needed, Fisher and bowman are at best bench players for any other team in our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dossertillidie Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I agree with that - we might have cover for left back if Plummer ever gets fit - but that remains to be seen. Plummer I dont think will play again, think we will see a left back, centre half and a forward come in and that will be it By god could we do with double that though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Not sure why we would bring in a left back. Dunne is clearly first choice, with Hammell behind him, possibly Plummer and then livingstone in the u20s, and tait who can fill in on the left. On the right it seems we have tait and cadden. If we return to the back 3, we could probably do better than frear at left wing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAM Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Heard a few names mentioned today. If true, we could be looking to bring in a centre half, a midfielder and a striker all currently playing with teams in the play-off positions in the championship (Scottish one!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Woooo, skippy comeback! Assuming its the promotion playoff places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Heard a few names mentioned today. If true, we could be looking to bring in a centre half, a midfielder and a striker all currently playing with teams in the play-off positions in the championship (Scottish one!) Interesting, there has been more noise than usual about signings from Scotland. Assuming you are referring to the promotion playoff spots, Craig Halkett would be the name that springs to mind. And we were strongly linked with Keatings in the summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Do we have he kind of money to buy players from these teams? Id like the approach if we did start bringing in players from Scottish teams, but unless they are guys not getting games, or maybe out of contract players signing pre-contracts, Im not sure how were going to pull that off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Woooo, skippy comeback! Assuming its the promotion playoff places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Yassin Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Heard a few names mentioned today. If true, we could be looking to bring in a centre half, a midfielder and a striker all currently playing with teams in the play-off positions in the championship (Scottish one!)Sounds versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... joewarkfanclub Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Bigi has talent but he is failing to deliver. He takes way too much time on the ball before playing a pass. If we can offload him we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 6 yr Andy_P locked this topic Prev 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 Next Page 170 of 230 This topic is now closed to further replies. Share More sharing options... Followers 8
Yassin Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Heard a few names mentioned today. If true, we could be looking to bring in a centre half, a midfielder and a striker all currently playing with teams in the play-off positions in the championship (Scottish one!)Sounds versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Bigi has talent but he is failing to deliver. He takes way too much time on the ball before playing a pass. If we can offload him we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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