texanwellfan Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 As mentioned, Cadden inside and Lionel wide right. Plus.......... a decent right ful back behind him. Always liked him and thought we struggled to make the most of him. I'd definately keep him. I don't think he is a "luxury" player. I think he is a player with a lot of untapped potential. Play him the right way and i think we wil get a lot of return for our money. Midfield Looks not bad :-) Frear McHugh Cadden Ainsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I watch Motherwell home and away and i honestly cant remember his last decent game for us before last night. No way should he get a new contract. Totally hides in most away games and there's a reason why we've been in a relegation battle. I wish him well but time to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I would keep Lionel, if desperate to stay then we should make an offer. I know he frustates a lot of folk but also capable of turning it on. If he goes I wish him well and thank him for scoring one of the best well goals ever in 40yrs following us. The 3rd goal at Ibrox.......AINSWORTHHHHHHHHHH!!! Said Liam McLeod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellarmy Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I watch Motherwell home and away and i honestly cant remember his last decent game for us before last night. No way should he get a new contract. Totally hides in most away games and there's a reason why we've been in a relegation battle. I wish him well but time to go.You send me to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Could we get him on a 1- month rolling contract? He seems to be able to produce the goods when his deal is nearly up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Football is supposed to be entertainment. Id rather pay to see a team with someone like Lionel in it with a chance that I might see something really special, rather than a team of journeyman, knowing fine well that I wont. Yes he is frustrating. Yes he hides at times. He cant tackle to save himself even when he can be arsed to track back but none of that matters if we have decent defenders. If we are going to be losing Moult AND Skippy do we really want to lose Lionels assists and goals from the team as well? I agree that the financial deal has to work for both parties and if that cant be done then he goes with our good wishes, but we are going to have a big turnover in the squad again this year. Keeping Lionel wouldnt be the worst bit of business we ever do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideoflanarkshire Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Not for me..one of the highest paid players at the club and turns up 25% of the time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Not for me..one of the highest paid players at the club and turns up 25% of the time Is he though? I'd suspect there could is easily a half dozen higher paid than him, maybe more. Remember hearing credible chat a while back that folk like Louis Lang and Kieran Kennedy were on massive deals compared to other members of the squad as they were paid more at previous clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I can certainly understand the love for Lionel. He's a world beater on his showreel. His first two seasons were fantastic, even during those he had some truly awful spells. Like two previous posters said. He's being romanticised due to his good performance against Killie but other than another decent wee sub appearance a few weeks ago I can't think of his last decent game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I can certainly understand the love for Lionel. He's a world beater on his showreel. His first two seasons were fantastic, even during those he had some truly awful spells. Like two previous posters said. He's being romanticised due to his good performance against Killie but other than another decent wee sub appearance a few weeks ago I can't think of his last decent game. I'd like to think I'm a realist. I totally agree that Lionel has had a honking season but then so has more than half our squad. Not helped by the awful man management he was exposed to in the first half of the season. Add to that the awful style of football we've adopted to try and avoid the drop. Yes, Lionel could probably have done more to help his own situation but I think there have been plenty mitigating factors. All depends on how Robinson sees us playing next season. I like Frear and Ross McLean shows promise but Id love to see Cadden played through the centre as a box to box player as others have mentioned. That for me leaves a space for someone like Lionel. If he isnt going to be difficult to deal with financially why look elsewhere? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacol Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I watch Motherwell home and away and i honestly cant remember his last decent game for us before last night. No way should he get a new contract. Totally hides in most away games and there's a reason why we've been in a relegation battle. I wish him well but time to go. I agree, if we'd been having this debate a fortnight ago, I think you would have struggled to find anyone willing to offer Ainsworth a new contract. He had a good game against Killie and then the 5 previous performances are forgotten. I agree that he was hung out to dry by McGhee numerous times but for me it's time he moved on. Thanks for a few great memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I agree, if we'd been having this debate a fortnight ago, I think you would have struggled to find anyone willing to offer Ainsworth a new contract. He had a good game against Killie and then the 5 previous performances are forgotten.. This x 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop91 Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Im a fan of lionel, however like most on here i dont think he turns up on the park often enough. So i feel a short term deal, say to christmas, to prove himself to the manager. With us holding the option on a future contract extension. There isn't any doubt the ability is there. It's just his attitude on the park that needs to change. If that didn't suit him then he's free to leave now with us all wishing him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Robinson is quoted in the Times today basically saying he's not sure if he will re-sign Lionel or not. For the same reasons we are discussing on here, unsurprisingly.http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/spfl/15296561.Deal_for_Motherwell_s_Lionel_Ainsworth_could_be_out_of_reach/ He said: “The thing with Lionel is just consistency and belief. Whether we can keep Lionel or not I don’t know. I’m not sure if we have the finances to do that.“He is someone who does come on and change games. I didn’t play him on Saturday because it was going to be a scrap and that’s not what Lionel has in his armoury, but he came on and did brilliantly for us against Kilmarnock.“He has done well defensively, he did do it when he came on against Hamilton as well. It’s maybe something a lot of people don’t see, but we’ve been trying to work on it with him. “I tried to do it before I left with him and Marvin Johnson. I think Lionel does buy into what we are trying to do and you can see his enthusiasm. He’s got a little bit of zip about him.“Whether we are able to sit down and speak to him I’m not too sure.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Robinson is quoted in the Times today basically saying he's not sure if he will re-sign Lionel or not. For the same reasons we are discussing on here, unsurprisingly. http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/spfl/15296561.Deal_for_Motherwell_s_Lionel_Ainsworth_could_be_out_of_reach/ Don't know if it's just me or not, but that sounds a lot like Robinson doesn't fancy him and he will likely be offski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I think he does fancy him, but doesn't have the budget to take the risk. With the same result that he's likely offski. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 I think he does fancy him, but doesn't have the budget to take the risk. With the same result that he's likely offski. Thats what I meant...would rather use his wage elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilmour Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Not for me..one of the highest paid players at the club and turns up 25% of the time Says who ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeboy Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Shocked that this thread didn't get a bump over the weekend after his latest return to the starting line up lasted less than an hour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Shocked that this thread didn't get a bump over the weekend after his latest return to the starting line up lasted less than an hour...I don't think you can take too much from a meaningless game on Saturday. McFadden coming on underlines that for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 He did give a proper wave goodbye as he was subbed. Safe to say he's offski I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Offered a new deal. Up to him now really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Offered a new deal. Up to him now really. He's quoted a saying in the press that he wants to stay its now time to back that up by signing a new deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 He's quoted a saying in the press that he wants to stay its now time to back that up by signing a new deal. There is wanting to stay and being able to afford to stay. We will be offering him a contract on reduced terms and he may not be able to afford to accept the wage drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 There is wanting to stay and being able to afford to stay. We will be offering him a contract on reduced terms and he may not be able to afford to accept the wage drop. Question is whether he will get a better offer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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