dossertillidie Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Notice he's been quick to say how delighted he is about joining killie, but failed to thank anyone at Motherwell fc for his time there. Talent is one thing but a good attitude and desire is another and for me I didn't see any evidence of the latter two during his time with us Don't wish him any harm and hope he goes on to live up to the early promise that he showed when he first came on the scene 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StipeIsGod Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Same as Forbes and McHugh. Flattered to deceive, seemed to have some real fans in the fanbase for no reason bar local birth, never good enough and glad to be rid. I doubt we'll hear of this rocket much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 TBF, at least some of his fans were impressed by his U20s performances where JJ used to talk about his 'continental feet'. Was a shame he couldn't produce that level of performance in the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I posted this on P&B in January when Thomas went on loan at QoS and had posted similar on here prior to that but I think it still largely holds true, even up to his performance in Stirling where he'd beat his man but his final ball was lacking. As others (including myself) have said "flatters to deceive" is an apt description for him. I think this series of tweets from the MFC twitter feed on recent u20s games is quite illustrative of the 'problem' (such as it is) with Thomas; vs St Mirren u20s '67 | 1-1 Hastie links up with Thomas down the left, the latter charges at the defence, shimmies on to his left, strikes it, but it's saved. '70 | 1-1 It's nearly brilliant from Thomas. He picks up the ball on edge of Saints box, beats his man with a cruyff turn but shoots over '72 | 1-1 Thomas is at it again, beating his marker with ease & charging towards the box. His effort is better this time but Willison saves. vs Falkirk u20s '51 | 0-0 Nearly a wonder goal from Thomas. He beats his man, cuts in from the right and goes for power with his left, but it's inches over! '63 | 1-0 'Well sub: McFadden is off and he's replaced by Hastie. '66 | 2-1 'Well pull one back instantly! Campbell crosses towards Hastie who makes no mistake and fires it past Mehmet. Lively few minutes! Invariably with Dom it's a case of "so close", "nearly brilliant", "nearly a wonder goal" etc. Whereas in the Falkirk game Hastie's on the park 3 mins and he's made an impact. Off the top of my head in recent games Hastie has had goals against Thistle u20s, Cumbernauld Colts u20s, Falkirk u20s, Sevco u20s and in the 9-1 demolition of Aberdeen u20s. He also won the 2 penalties against Morton u20s. Tellingly that record is from the same wide attacking role as Thomas has had in the past. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I had high hopes that he would make the breakthrough with us, but that bus has obviously now left. There are fair few I would rather have seen going out the door ahead of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 To be honest, the only real moments during the last year that I even remembered he was a Motherwell player was whenever someone would point out his latest Celtic-daft, Green Brigade style tweet. Perfectly happy with this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Based on last season Thomas just wasn't good enough. Amble opportunity to prove him self last term playing just over 90 minutes of league football, comprising 4 sub appearances, three of which we were getting gubbed in when he came on. The end for me was that 14 minute appearance against Kilmarnock when he failed to do anything to break the 0-0 deadlock. Mentioning that Scott McDonald, Louis Moult and Lionel Ainsworth started that match and did fuck all is merely a deflection tactic, one might even say evil and disingenuous sophistry. The blame for that performance rested purely on young Thomas. Personally, in an age when our youth side win cups and achieve superb league placings, the only way to go is to ditch these youngster with their track record of success at youth level and focus purely on our next signing from Dagenham & Redbridge. Bradley Hudson-Odoi, Oliver Hawkins and Mitch Brundle come on down. The heady heights of 3rd bottom awaits. Right up there with some of the shitest posts I've read on here, which is no mean feat. Well played. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Craig Reid says we have let the best player at the club leave. I can see where he's coming from. Its quite possible if you were to canvas the opinion of Fir Park playing and management staff that they'd say Thomas had been the most talented player on our books. If that is the case then I would not disagree. However, he could not translate that talent and potential onto the pitch in games. It was said by quite a few players at the turn of the century that the most talented player, by far, on our books at the time was Derek Adams. His finishing ability was amazing. However we never saw that on the pitch. Having talent does not necessarily mean that a player can turn it on when it matters. Our history is littered with very very talented players who just didn't make it....John Gray, Ramsay Bryson, Junior Burns..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Remember him coming on against St Mirren on a week night and toying with Jim Goodwin and being really excited about him. Dont recall much else. Best of luck to the boy but doubt we'll miss him and if he does carve out a solid spfl / english league one career I look forward to his resigning in 8-10 years time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Based on last season Thomas just wasn't good enough. Amble opportunity to prove him self last term playing just over 90 minutes of league football, comprising 4 sub appearances, three of which we were getting gubbed in when he came on. The end for me was that 14 minute appearance against Kilmarnock when he failed to do anything to break the 0-0 deadlock. Mentioning that Scott McDonald, Louis Moult and Lionel Ainsworth started that match and did fuck all is merely a deflection tactic, one might even say evil and disingenuous sophistry. The blame for that performance rested purely on young Thomas. Personally, in an age when our youth side win cups and achieve superb league placings, the only way to go is to ditch these youngster with their track record of success at youth level and focus purely on our next signing from Dagenham & Redbridge. Bradley Hudson-Odoi, Oliver Hawkins and Mitch Brundle come on down. The heady heights of 3rd bottom awaits. Right up there with some of the shitest posts I've read on here, which is no mean feat. Well played. Whilst I'm unperturbed by the general points made, the closing gambit I've highlighted has plenty of merit. Discussed at length in our circle, general consensus was 'would rather our own products were shite rather than signing others who are guaranteed to be shite on more money'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I think the Dom Thomas debate exemplifies a lot of what is wrong with Scottish football. We seem to have a lot of youngsters who look to have the raw talent to become good footballers and who do well at youth level, but we dont seem to be very good at developing them from there to progress in the senior game. Im sure the reasons are complex and many, but until we figure it out, our ranking/coefficient at club and international level will continue to slide. As for Dom, good luck to the boy. I hope he makes it. But Im not devastated at his departure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dossertillidie Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'd have liked to have seen him in behind the front two in that ryan Gauld position that he played at Dundee Utd However we never ever had the players around him to afford that luxury position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 If he was good enough he would have played more in the first team and made more of an impact when he did. It's as simple as that really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmostFrazzled Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'd have liked to have seen him in behind the front two in that ryan Gauld position that he played at Dundee Utd However we never ever had the players around him to afford that luxury position Also he couldn't pass water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Also he couldn't pass water. Disagree - I thought his passing was sharp and purposeful. He just couldny run, tackle and lacked a final ball. Worth noting he's also only 21 and didn't get his debut till December 2014 which isn't the 4 years some folk are claiming. Good luck to him - We need exciting players in this league and he's still got a bit of time to develop. I'd actually love to see his talent turn into something meaningful on the pitch - as long as he's shite against us I'd be delighted to see him do well. I wonder if Killie have their own Nando's Police? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmostFrazzled Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Disagree - I thought his passing was sharp and purposeful. He just couldny run, tackle and lacked a final ball. Worth noting he's also only 21 and didn't get his debut till December 2014 which isn't the 4 years some folk are claiming. Good luck to him - We need exciting players in this league and he's still got a bit of time to develop. I'd actually love to see his talent turn into something meaningful on the pitch - as long as he's shite against us I'd be delighted to see him do well. I wonder if Killie have their own Nando's Police? So his passing was sharp & purposeful, but he couldn't pass a ball in the final third? In all fairness to Dom, if I was needing a winger to run straight at a full back, and hit the first defender with every attempted cross I'd have him as first name on the team sheet every week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 So his passing was sharp & purposeful, but he couldn't pass a ball in the final third? In all fairness to Dom, if I was needing a winger to run straight at a full back, and hit the first defender with every attempted cross I'd have him as first name on the team sheet every week. Ach you know what I mean. In the build up I thought his passing was pretty sharp and he was trying to move the ball about. When it came to whipping that final ball in, I agree he just couldny do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 The fact that he could not break into the 1st team ahead of some of the utter dross we have seen at Fir park over the past couple of seasons tells you all you need to know about him, ie he was not good enough and never would be, surprised he was not away before now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Robinson fairly direct about Thomas in his press conference. Wanted him to go out on loan to get competitive football as he was behind Frear, Tanner and Cadden to play. Thomas made it clear he wanted to leave the club. Robinson basically said he wants players who want to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Craigan just said on BT as Thomas came on that he told Motherwell he didn't want to play for them anymore so we have dealt with this very professionally . On the ball twice in 1st minute on hit 1st defender with both crosses so no change there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Unsurprisingly, he did fuck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Chris Sutton made a comment as Thomas made his only contribution,a free kick into a dangerous area......."Motherwell can afford to let a player like that go".....Craigan shot him down......"One good cross"..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 And no killie player was anywhere near it and also had about 7 or 8 crap ones hit 1st defender . Imo tonight was just like watching him in a Motherwell shirt looked no different just another jersey . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Afraid it was a textbook Dom Thomas performance. If McCulloch can get a final ball out of Dom then all credit to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Managers can only do so much. It has to be Dom Thomas that gets the final ball out of Dom Thomas and I'm not certain he has the attitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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