MFCL84 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 It is great that the bois bring an atmosphere, but it must be the right type of atmosphere for it to encourage others to come along and support our club. Needless to say, the behaviour at Accies is not going to encourage people along to Fir Park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, MFCL84 said: It is great that the bois bring an atmosphere, but it must be the right type of atmosphere for it to encourage others to come along and support our club. Needless to say, the behaviour at Accies is not going to encourage people along to Fir Park. I agree totally....the Bois bring great atmosphere but there is an element that really need to screw the nut. We all hate the behaviour that some old firm fans bring but there are times when some of our lads cross the line. But in happier news it was my birthday yesterday and I have just had a cracking meal tonight...... COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, grizzlyg said: I agree totally....the Bois bring great atmosphere but there is an element that really need to screw the nut. We all hate the behaviour that some old firm fans bring but there are times when some of our lads cross the line. But in happier news it was my birthday yesterday and I have just had a cracking meal tonight...... COYW happy BUFFDAY ,,,, if you know what I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, smiddy said: happy BUFFDAY ,,,, if you know what I mean Heh he.......ahhhhhh i wish Smiddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 hours ago, DunnyMFC said: Where did this chat Imrie's maw is a mattress come from? Sleepy valley in brandon street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 15 hours ago, MFCL84 said: It is great that the bois bring an atmosphere, but it must be the right type of atmosphere for it to encourage others to come along and support our club. Needless to say, the behaviour at Accies is not going to encourage people along to Fir Park. Problem is, it doesn't quite work like that. We don't get to ask a small group of lads to provide the atmosphere for the entire stadium, but to only do so on terms that we find acceptable. We're talking about a group of individuals here, not a division of the boy scouts. Like loose groups of lads up and down the country (and all over the world) who go to football games you're going to see some undesirable actions, usually committed by a minority. That's how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, David said: Problem is, it doesn't quite work like that. We don't get to ask a small group of lads to provide the atmosphere for the entire stadium, but to only do so on terms that we find acceptable. You're right that we don't get to ask them not to vandalize stadiums. We get to tell them not to do that, and get to take action if they continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, weeyin said: You're right that we don't get to ask them not to vandalize stadiums. We get to tell them not to do that, and get to take action if they continue. No, "we" don't. The authorities do. Big difference. "We" get to sit on our hands and murmur quietly when the team isn't playing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, David said: No, "we" don't. The authorities do. Big difference. Our club (and others) can ban them from attending matches without involving any authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, David said: No, "we" don't. The authorities do. Big difference. "We" get to sit on our hands and murmur quietly when the team isn't playing well. If fans are misbehaving "we" get to ban them from our ground. As fans, we also get to point them out to stewards if they cross the line (like the coin throwers and racist abusers at Tynecastle). But if you are OK with that behaviour, you can keep sitting on your hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, weeyin said: If fans are misbehaving "we" get to ban them from our ground. As fans, we also get to point them out to stewards if they cross the line (like the coin throwers and racist abusers at Tynecastle). But if you are OK with that behaviour, you can keep sitting on your hands. I would buy a ticket for that. U standin up during a match ,going to a steward and pointing out someone in your own support to get huckled and flung out. Your a braver man than me. Can Remember at Tynecasle a couple seasons back the regular crittisiser ,you know who u are, was sittin in front of us and shoutin abuse at the jamtarts supporters beside us as well as the usual crap at our team. The Hearts supporters gave him pelters back and he actually went up to the stewards to complain about them shouting at him. Even our support began abusing him after that. Its a lonley walk to the stewards during the game to point someone out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodo Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 "Vandalise " surely Sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Yodo said: "Vandalise " surely Sir Oxford English Dictionary recommends "ize" due to the Latin and Greek origins of the suffix , so I'm happy to use them as a style guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 How wonderfully ironic to be discussing the correct usage of the suffixes “ise” and “ize” in a thread with the word Bois in the title. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 9:12 PM, The African said: How wonderfully ironic to be discussing the correct usage of the suffixes “ise” and “ize” in a thread with the word Bois in the title. "Boi" originates from the comic collector world (where "Fanboi" was coined). So no problems with that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 12:48 AM, weeyin said: Oxford English Dictionary recommends "ize" due to the Latin and Greek origins of the suffix , so I'm happy to use them as a style guide. "ize" is a sign you've gone full American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: "ize" is a sign you've gone full American. The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) recommends -ize and notes that the -ise spelling is from French: "The suffix…whatever the element to which it is added, is in its origin the Greek -ιζειν, Latin -izāre; and, as the pronunciation is also with z, there is no reason why in English the special French spelling should be followed, in opposition to that which is at once etymological and phonetic." The OED lists the -ise form as an alternative The Oxford Guide to English Usage and Fowler's also prefer "ize". I know I'm old, but I was actually taught "ize" spellings at primary school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said: "ize" is a sign you've gone full American. Absolutely. More and more Americanisms creeping into UK English. A sign of the times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 6 hours ago, weeyin said: "Boi" originates from the comic collector world (where "Fanboi" was coined). So no problems with that either. I was looking it up online and stopped when it seemed to suggest that it was the term for the more manly participants in a sapphic relationship. The internet can be great for expanding knowledge and vocabulary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Absolutely. More and more Americanisms creeping into UK English. A sign of the times! "ize" originated here and has been used in British English since the 15th century. https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/03/28/ize-or-ise/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Absolutely. More and more Americanisms creeping into UK English. A sign of the times! While I agree with your premise, Weeyin is correct here and, in this instance the reverse is the case with “ise” being more prevalent in the US. Personally, in this case, I find both acceptable. I see the written word as a means of communication and understanding and, in that respect, there are much greater crimes being committed than the possible misuse of a z for an s, or vice versa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 FFS I hate Winter Breaks - bring back the fitba. You Academics need to go and lie down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgey Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Is FFS in the Oxford Guide to English Usage and Fowler's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgey Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, numpty said: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/ffs Awesome !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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