The 'Magnificent' David Turnbull Discussion Thread

[Busta Nut]

4 minutes ago, weeyin said:

If he follows the Lewis Morgan development path, you'll no be seeing him next season.

While I understand the reasons behind Turnbull taking the Celtic path, the best thing that happened to McGinn's career was moving to Villa. 

Morgan is pish.

 

Turnbull isnae.

[texanwellfan]

7 minutes ago, GazzyB said:

Mate you've asked that about six times. If it's confirmed it'll be on the website. 

So the answer is not yet then. If i had seen an answer I wouldn’t have asked so many times 

[TvTotherwell]

According to their forums he's having his medical just now. 

[Well Well]

Someone just reported seeing him in Costa Carfin not that long ago on P&B.

[weeyin]

1 hour ago, dennyc said:

The only doubt is that Celtic don’t usually  include them as part of any deal with Scottish clubs. In that way they maximise their profit when they cash in. I don’t recall Burrows or anyone from within MFC confirming a sell-on clause in any statement or on Twitter. 

Normally he is shouting it from the rooftops. As in the Johnson deal you highlight. And the question has been asked.  All speculation of course but I’ll believe the existence of such an arrangement when Motherwell announce it formally.

 

If Celtic requested we keep the details of the deal confidential, we won't be announcing anything, though.

I can't see any reason why, given the fact that we hold all the negotiation cards, we wouldn't insist on sell-ons. It makes absolutely no difference to the buying club because they just include the premium when it comes time to sell.

[dennyc]

21 minutes ago, weeyin said:

If Celtic requested we keep the details of the deal confidential, we won't be announcing anything, though.

I can't see any reason why, given the fact that we hold all the negotiation cards, we wouldn't insist on sell-ons. It makes absolutely no difference to the buying club because they just include the premium when it comes time to sell.

And maybe Celtic went the extra million on the basis of no sell on. It was a huge leap from £2m to £3m. Money up front and all that in a once and for all settlement?   Or maybe Alan Burrows is just a great negotiator.

I do agree we should insist on such a clause but unless the Club confirm it in some way then the doubt exists. Even a bland statement as has been done in the past ......” Protecting our future interests” . Weeyin, would the lack of a sell on clause change your view about how good a deal has been agreed?

As a comparison ....Aberdeen got £440k for Gary Fraser joining Bournemouth. Talk of them getting an additional £6m if he goes to Arsenal for £30m. Even half that sum nets them £3m. That’s why I think the sell on is almost as vital as the original fee. My opinion only, But just watch Celtic sell Turnbull for a massive profit in 3 years. That’s their operating model. I wonder how much Dundee Utd received when Armstrong joined Southampton ? I hope I am wrong though.

[fizoxy]

There’s no way we didn’t include a sell on, it has been clear over that last few years that that’s just standard procedure for us and most other clubs. We even negotiate sell ons for guys we let go for nothing. 

[Lobey_Dosser]

Dundee United had a 10% sell on for Armstrong which equated to £540k. 

[steelboy]

1 hour ago, weeyin said:

If Celtic requested we keep the details of the deal confidential, we won't be announcing anything, though.

 

Good to see that Lawell decides how the Well Society operates.

[Yorkyred]

12 minutes ago, steelboy said:

Good to see that Lawell decides how the Well Society operates.

It’s often standard practice for the buying club, I know that does not fit in to the agenda though so apologies.

[wellowell]

Will have to be declared in accounts though so will come out at some stage fee paid 

[steelboy]

11 minutes ago, Yorkyred said:

It’s often standard practice for the buying club, I know that does not fit in to the agenda though so apologies.

And what if it isn't standard practice for the selling club?

We are a fan owned club and should be transparent.

[steelboy]

Just now, wellowell said:

Will have to be declared in accounts though so will come out at some stage fee paid 

They only have to declare the total transfer income. So if there is more than one undisclosed fee (and we already have McKinstry) then it's impossible to tell.

[wellowell]

Normally in notes with regards to transfers I’m sure though may be wrong 

[Welldaft Mk1]

1 hour ago, fizoxy said:

There’s no way we didn’t include a sell on, it has been clear over that last few years that that’s just standard procedure for us and most other clubs. We even negotiate sell ons for guys we let go for nothing. 

15%

[stuwell]

1 hour ago, steelboy said:

Good to see that Lawell decides how the Well Society operates.

  Steelboy, as you fine well know, the society does not deal with the day to day running of the club as that is the job of the board. So Lawell or any other person/club asking for confidentiality has no say in how the society operates.  If I’m wrong please enlighten me to the truth. 

Every post from you is either negative and or mostly wrong or a twisted version of the truth but I’m sure you know that when posting. 

[ekwellfan]

Sun reporting deal is dead. Celtic have done walking away. 

[ScottW1886]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4382534/celtic-david-turnbull-motherwell-dead-transfer-news/

[Suprawell]

Just now, ekwellfan said:

Sun reporting deal is dead. Celtic have done walking away. 

Poor Davie, needs to update Twitter and stop following all the scummy 'tic shite

[real dosser]

Wish the Sun would make up their minds. It was a done deal this morning. Terrific journalists they have working there

[steelboy]

10 minutes ago, stuwell said:

  Steelboy, as you fine well know, the society does not deal with the day to day running of the club as that is the job of the board. So Lawell or any other person/club asking for confidentiality has no say in how the society operates.  If I’m wrong please enlighten me to the truth.  

Every post from you is either negative and or mostly wrong or a twisted version of the truth but I’m sure you know that when posting.  

The society has the controlling interest in the club.

They employ Burrows. If the Society say no undisclosed fees then the board has to comply.

[wellman]

7 minutes ago, ScottW1886 said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4382534/celtic-david-turnbull-motherwell-dead-transfer-news/

Let's hope so well done David 

[stv]

Maybe he just wasnt Selik minded enough. 

[Yorkyred]

I will believe it when I see it, love it to be true, BUT nothing we have not read before many, many times.

[stv]

16 minutes ago, steelboy said:

The society has the controlling interest in the club.

They employ Burrows. If the Society say no undisclosed fees then the board has to comply.

Change the record. It will be on a need to know basis and you and most of us dont really need to know . Do we ?