The 'Magnificent' David Turnbull Discussion Thread

[Busta Nut]

I am annoyed Turnbull was overlooked, then I had a think about it and I am pleased he's getting a rest. 

[Londonwell]

52 minutes ago, ONeils4oyarder said:

where did I say Tait was better???????

I'm not going to drag this thread any further off track with your clutching at straws exercise.

We're both agreed Turnbull should have been in the squad, there. 

[ONeils4oyarder]

Clutching at straws? 

[ropy]

I am not bothered about Turnbull being left out this time but if he starts the new season as he ended this one (wherever he is) I would be surprised if he wasn’t drafted in for future squads.

[twistandshout1983]

Thought Turnbull would have definetly been in.  Will benefit us but when the new season starts.

[Goggles & Flippers]

As another poster conveyed, if he sported blue and white stripes then he'd be a shoe in. That for me doesn't make his decision correct or justifiable. Having "full cap international" on his growing CV just helps with the marketing and value.

I don't really get Clarke's logic here, pick players he has an intimate knowledge of at the expense of players he doesn't. I know it's not friendlies but Cyprus should be procession and Belgium will be a hiding.

[The African]

3 hours ago, Goggles & Flippers said:

but Cyprus should be procession

Really? We got hounded by Kazakhstan and looked awful beating Sannie Marino. Nobody should be scared of playing us at the moment.

[Neilwell86]

I can kind of understand the Killie inclusions, Greg Taylor will be back up to Robertson, O'Donnell will play right back, Brophy we don't really much option on, severe lack of strikers. Stuart Findlay I can't comment on however they all know exactly how he wants to play which will work in our favour. it's the other inclusions I don't get, Mikey Devlin, Lewis Morgan. 

[supermarv]

1 hour ago, Neilwell86 said:

I can kind of understand the Killie inclusions, Greg Taylor will be back up to Tierney, O'Donnell will play right back, Brophy we don't really much option on, severe lack of strikers. Stuart Findlay I can't comment on however they all know exactly how he wants to play which will work in our favour. it's the other inclusions I don't get, Mikey Devlin, Lewis Morgan. 

And Burke and 4 keepers and Shinnie 

[Neilwell86]

Burke is one of them I think Clarke will get the most out of, he is quite versatile and offers pace and power which we don't have a great deal off. Shinnie is way down the pecking order in that position and doesn't offer anything different from what we have. surely Turnbull, or Ferguson to be unbiased would have benefited from even the experience if they didn't get the run out. 

[ONeils4oyarder]

I've not got a real problem with the Killie guys being in the squad, Killie have had a good season, (though not quite as good as when we finished 2nd, and I don't remember the clamour for Motherwell players in the squad, or indeed our manager to be given the managers job at the SFA)...

...Taylor is a player I admire, and at the end of the day is only back-up for Robertson, O'Donnell isn't a player I admire but I understand that choices are limited in his position, Brophy is a bit of a curveball but I'm happy enough to see if he can step up, and the same can be said for Findlay....but on an individual basis none of them have performed to the standards that Turnbull has...it just seems really weird to leave the guy out when his own individual form is so good.

[Londonwell]

2 hours ago, ONeils4oyarder said:

I've not got a real problem with the Killie guys being in the squad, Killie have had a good season, (though not quite as good as when we finished 2nd, and I don't remember the clamour for Motherwell players in the squad, or indeed our manager to be given the managers job at the SFA)...

...Taylor is a player I admire, and at the end of the day is only back-up for Robertson, O'Donnell isn't a player I admire but I understand that choices are limited in his position, Brophy is a bit of a curveball but I'm happy enough to see if he can step up, and the same can be said for Findlay....but on an individual basis none of them have performed to the standards that Turnbull has...it just seems really weird to leave the guy out when his own individual form is so good.

But you're comparing apples to oranges there. Midfield is our strongest area, if any of the Killie players mentioned played centre mid they wouldn't be near the team, however they all play in areas that we're particularly weak. Unfortunately for Turnbull we have some excellent and established midfielder's but his time will come, I would think.  

[Goggles & Flippers]

15 hours ago, The African said:

Really? We got hounded by Kazakhstan and looked awful beating Sannie Marino. Nobody should be scared of playing us at the moment.

Let’s just emphasis the difference between “should” and  “will”, and which one was used.

[grizzlyg]

10 hours ago, Neilwell86 said:

Burke is one of them I think Clarke will get the most out of, he is quite versatile and offers pace and power which we don't have a great deal off. Shinnie is way down the pecking order in that position and doesn't offer anything different from what we have. surely Turnbull, or Ferguson to be unbiased would have benefited from even the experience if they didn't get the run out. 

I take it you mean brophy?.....Chris Burke about 34 now

[Andy_P]

I take it he means Ollie Burke.

[Richie]

£1.2m

[Lobey_Dosser]

And so it begins with Celtic not learning anything from the McGinn embarrassment last summer, when they failed to pay £3m for a boy that is now worth £25m. We need to get Turnbull down to England so we can max out on sell-on clauses. It’s also the best place for his development. 

[Neilwell86]

I'd like to think he has zero interest in signing for Celtic anyway, top end championship/low end premier league is where it's at. Back on loan to us for a season, happy days.

[Kmcalpin]

As high as £1.2M? Really, I would have thought £400K.

[MelvinBragg]

4 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

As high as £1.2M? Really, I would have thought £400K.

Probably Celtic would offer £400k up front with the remainder related to number of appearances...

[Squirrelhumper]

22 hours ago, ONeils4oyarder said:

I've not got a real problem with the Killie guys being in the squad, Killie have had a good season, (though not quite as good as when we finished 2nd, and I don't remember the clamour for Motherwell players in the squad, or indeed our manager to be given the managers job at the SFA)...

...Taylor is a player I admire, and at the end of the day is only back-up for Robertson, O'Donnell isn't a player I admire but I understand that choices are limited in his position, Brophy is a bit of a curveball but I'm happy enough to see if he can step up, and the same can be said for Findlay....but on an individual basis none of them have performed to the standards that Turnbull has...it just seems really weird to leave the guy out when his own individual form is so good.

Stronger league now than it was when you finished 2nd IMO but was some achievement.

SOD and Findlay were in last squad, Taylor should have been in last squad given he was U21 left back, played over 120 games at left back for us at 21 and we had fucking Shinnie at left back! He's an obvious choice.

Brophy is due to lack of options and I'm a bit surprised as he's missed a lot of the season injured but he's no worse an option than McNulty.

Turnbull should 100% be in the squad, especially ahead of shite like Burke.

[Kmcalpin]

46 minutes ago, MelvinBragg said:

Probably Celtic would offer £400k up front with the remainder related to number of appearances...

More like £100K up front with the rest to be paid in 10 installments! 

[ONeils4oyarder]

1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Stronger league now than it was when you finished 2nd

The record books will always show we finished 2nd mate 

[ONeils4oyarder]

21 hours ago, Londonwell said:

But you're comparing apples to oranges there. Midfield is our strongest area, if any of the Killie players mentioned played centre mid they wouldn't be near the team, however they all play in areas that we're particularly weak. Unfortunately for Turnbull we have some excellent and established midfielder's but his time will come, I would think.  

I'm not suggesting that Turnbull should be in ahead of any of these guys...but there are certainly guys he should be ahead of

[Squirrelhumper]

1 hour ago, ONeils4oyarder said:

The record books will always show we finished 2nd mate 

I know mate, I'm not disputing that!

Will also show that we got more points this season and only finished 3rd!