grizzlyg Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 After starting the Dicky Tait for Scotland thread 2 years ago...(down like a lead balloon).....what is everyone's thoughts about big Declan Gallagher for Scotland?. Been very impressed and his ability in the air superb. A no nonsense centre half and we are not exactly blessed with options.....Mulgrew....Hanley!!!!!. I think he deserves at least a call up and show in training what he can do.....COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Nah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Definitely not. A very good player for us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Why not, it's time to ditch all the shite that's been picked for years and delivered nothing, Gallagher has been a standout so far this season, so who would you have in for Scotland him or the likes of Berra and the other current dross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Doubt he will get the nod. Berra wont be close. Clarke will have Cooper, Hanley, Mulgrew in for sure. Hes also talked up Devlin before too so I expect him there to make 4 centre backs. Bates perhaps an outside chance given hes been in squads before. Souttar, McKenna and Halkett all out injured would be the first 3 picks I'd think. So either way, whatever he picks this international break I doubt will be what we will see next year in the playoff. Personally I wouldnt let Hanley near a football and it dumbfounds me to this day he has made a living in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I don't want any of our players to play for Scotland, because Scotland are utter dugmeat and when we're trying to improve the Motherwell side i'd prefer it if our players weren't semi-regularly put on a massive downer by getting pumped by 90% of the countries on earth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 One day but not while he plays for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I think Gallagher has been excellent for us but I dont think he is at the level required for international football That said, we are not exactly blessed with options at centre half for Scotland. I would say when fit McKenna and Souttar are probabably the best we have. After that its up for grabs. Mulgrew, Hanley, Bates et al have all shown vulnerabilities. I think Halkett maybe had a shot at the squad but he is now injured, so its not that fanciful an idea if Steve Clarke wants to try options ahead of the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Well let’s face it whoever they put there it’s not like the end result can be much worse than what’s been served up these past few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: I think Gallagher has been excellent for us but I dont think he is at the level required for international football What is the level required for international duty especially in the Scotland context as what's been on display as the best in the country in recent years is utter shite. So why not Gallagher, he is playing well in a team thats currently 3rd in the country's top league, is that level not good enough ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning by Name Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 With probably the best two (McKenna and Souttar) out and Halkett now as well. I would say no-one is any better than Gallagher - some are definitely worse. His good form isn't just this season with us, he was excellent last year with Livingson too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 9 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: I think Gallagher has been excellent for us but I dont think he is at the level required for international football FFS, this arguement is bull shit. What he's not even amateur or semi-professional level? There are more Semi-Pro nations than Pro nations in international football. For the record none of our players are good enough to compete at the table of the top 20 European Nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodo Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Why not would add to his CV plus his value would go up so all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Spiderpig said: What is the level required for international duty especially in the Scotland context as what's been on display as the best in the country in recent years is utter shite. So why not Gallagher, he is playing well in a team thats currently 3rd in the country's top league, is that level not good enough ? I think I answered that in the second half of my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Wellfan1984 said: FFS, this arguement is bull shit. What he's not even amateur or semi-professional level? There are more Semi-Pro nations than Pro nations in international football. For the record none of our players are good enough to compete at the table of the top 20 European Nations. Strong language given the 2nd half of my post actually qualifies the first half. If I had said, "I dont think he is of a standard that would significantly improve Scotland at International level", would you still argue? You can argue the point of whether you think Gallagher is good enough or not but arguing the use of language is a bit tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 I don’t think he’s far behind (if at all?) Souttar, McKenna or Halkett. Charlie Mulgrew is a utility player. Scotland aren’t blessed with options at centre half. I don’t think he’ll be picked though. With the exception of Steven Saunders cap, Scotland managers have only really looked to fir park when they’ve had to, don’t ever remember a manager taking a gamble on a player from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Gallagher is a vastly superior defender who is significantly ahead of Devlin, Findlay, McKenna, Hanley and Cooper ability wise, who all seem to be called up with no complaint. I genuinely wouldn't be against him and Halkett(injured now obviously) at the back after what I've witnessed the last few games. Devlin is absolutely honking yet has been in the 4 of the 6? squads. I'd be hoping to never see Cooper play another second for Scotland as he is fucking shite. None of the above players are of the required "International Standard", but we have no one else which is why we are murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Going on last few internationals if defenders like Cooper and O’Donnell are “international level “ then it’s not a great leap to give Gallagher a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, sbcmfc said: I don’t think he’s far behind (if at all?) Souttar, McKenna or Halkett. Charlie Mulgrew is a utility player. Scotland aren’t blessed with options at centre half. I don’t think he’ll be picked though. With the exception of Steven Saunders cap, Scotland managers have only really looked to fir park when they’ve had to, don’t ever remember a manager taking a gamble on a player from us. This season there is no better Scottish defender in the SPFL -across all 4 positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeee Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 He has no chance of getting picked this is a manager that said Turnbull wasn't just ready yet for Scotland selection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Lets face it if he played for Kilmarnock he WOUlD have been in a squad by now. Every bit as good as Devin if not better in fact. We are just not fashionable or Clark does not like us. Example calls up Shankland but not Turnbull !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Injuries are playing their part but our defensive options are horrible. Gallagher is probably best staying out the firing line for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, MrBeee said: He has no chance of getting picked this is a manager that said Turnbull wasn't just ready yet for Scotland selection. 1 hour ago, Welldaft Mk1 said: Lets face it if he played for Kilmarnock he WOUlD have been in a squad by now. Every bit as good as Devin if not better in fact. We are just not fashionable or Clark does not like us. Example calls up Shankland but not Turnbull !!! Yet has picked guys like Brophy... Shankland is a surprise, he’s playing in a league that has part time teams. Big step up. Has there ever been a surprise Motherwell inclusion in a Scotland squad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: Yet has picked guys like Brophy... Shankland is a surprise, he’s playing in a league that has part time teams. Big step up. Has there ever been a surprise Motherwell inclusion in a Scotland squad? Steven Saunders ....and he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Turnbull was unlucky not to be picked in June before his op and the transfer debacle. However, unfortunately for him, he plays in a position that Scotland are currently well served. McTominay, Christie, McGregor, Armstrong, McGinn, Jack are all experienced players who have played for longer at a high level. Shankland (and to an extent Brophy) are different, in that they play in a position where we have very few options. Given that the next 4 games are effectively warm up games for the play off's we might as well have a look at him and see what he has got. Using the same argument, I can understand the feeling Gallagher deserves a shot, he has been very good this year in our league, but do we really think he is better than Hanley who has captained Norwich into the EPL or Cooper who captains Leeds in the Championship? There is no evidence for that. Comparisons with McKenna, Soutar, Devlin, Halkett and Findlay are fair enough, but even that is subjective given we see far more of our player than the others. Stevie Clarke will undoubtedly have been the same which is why he picked some Kilmarnock players for his first squad but only the 2 who deserve to still be there on merit remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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