Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Having previously lived in London for nine years and making friends with Spurs fans and attending matches with them at WHL and Europe they referred to their team as the Yids and classed themselves as the Yid army From daily telegraph 2014 Using the word ‘Yid’ at White Hart Lane will no longer be an arrestable offence, the The Metropolitan Police has announce The Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust (THST) asked the police for their position on the controversial term in a police and safety forum meeting last Monday. They were told anti-semitic holocaust songs directed at Spurs fans, which are an offence, are different from chants sung by Spurs fans including the Y-word, which are not. Constable Steve Payne, Football Intelligence Officer for the Met, said fans would still be arrested for using the Y-word if a complaint was made against them. The FA issued guidelines for supporters’ behaviour and said the use of the word was “derogatory and offensive” and could amount to a criminal offence, even if it was being sung by supporters of Tottenham, who traditionally drew a large following from the Jewish community. The FA’s intervention last September prompted a fierce response from Spurs supporters, who insisted they should be the ones to decide whether it is time to end the chants. “If Spurs fans genuinely are going to stop using this word then it should be our decision,” chairman Darren Alexander said at the time. “We sincerely believe that no Spurs fan ever uses the Y-word or shouts ‘Yid Army’ in an effort to offend anyone.” Spurs supporters have always maintained that the word ‘Yid’ in has never been used a malicious way, despite its offensive connotations. The word is used affectionately by supporters of Tottenham, who proudly chant “Yid Army” in response to the perception they have a large Jewish following. But it is used as a term of anti-semitic abuse by rival fans. A THST statement, issued in response to the FA’s warning, read: “THST is categorically against ejections and banning orders for use of the term by Tottenham supporters in a match environment. “Our view has always been that should Spurs’ fans’ use of the Yid identity come to an end, this should be as a result of the feeling among the Spurs community that it was time to move on. "This issue has always been of the utmost importance to us and while we recognise that Spurs fans use of the Y-word and associated identity may have caused some upset to members of the Jewish community, we sincerely believe no Spurs fan uses the term in a malicious way.” It said: “We do not in any way condone racist language being used by football fans and we are aware of the recent media reporting of racist abuse being used towards opposition fans during matches. “However this was never one of those cases. The word ‘Yid’ simply means ‘Jew’. It was and is still used as a term of endearment by many Jewish people. "Its use in a derogatory way was started by racists in Nazi Germany. This deplorable action should not have the power to forever change its meaning into an abusive term. “The word ‘Yid’ was adopted over 30 years ago by Spurs fans to combat racist abuse aimed towards them at football by opposing fans. “It developed into a strong identity status that brought Jewish and non-Jewish Spurs fans together in an incredible show of unity that is admired worldwide. That is what fighting racism within football should be about.” On March 7 the Crown Prosecution Service discontinued cases made against three Totttenham fans arrested for using the Y-word. Eight arrests were made last season for racially aggravated offences at White Hart Lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/16/2019 at 1:55 PM, weeyin said: People are overthinking this. When someone's contract is running down and you want to keep them, you offer a new contract - otherwise they likely leave. As a club, we tend not to stand in the way of people who want to leave - players or managers. (Most businesses are the same way, as it doesn't make sense to keep someone who is unhappy, and slavery has been illegal for quite some time). The compensation thing is a bit of a red herring. If Robinson just walked out today, breaking his contract, there's not much we could do except sue him personally - and I'd be surprised if we would get a year's salary from a case like that as it's not like we paid him the money up front. As far as Preston are concerned, if they get promoted and finish bottom of the EPL, they earn about £100 million then receive around another £42 million in parachute payments. Of course, if they stay in the EPL they earn a lot more. So that £3 million payment is 2% of 1 season's minimum potential earnings should Alex Neil succeed. If we asked clubs to pay 2% of one season's of Motherwell's potential earnings should Robinson succeed, we'd probably get a lot less than we are asking now. Great fag packet logic there. Were you involved in counting the number of Celtic fans in Seville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Goggles & Flippers said: Great fag packet logic there. Were you involved in counting the number of Celtic fans in Seville? Which part do you disagree with? The fact that in business 1 year compensation (at most) for breaking a contract is typical? The fact that £100 million is the EPL payout this year for the bottom club? The £42 million in parachute payments? The 3% calculation. I didn't make any of these figures up - they are all published numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 The fact you are using percentages of turnover/income as an amount used by any company as a figure for their compensation settlement for any employee. Good job you weren't negotiating £3.25m for Turnbull. "Actually we need an extra 250k as that makes it approximately 60% of our annual turnover (depending on the year)" Who uses fractions or percentages as a means to negotiate? He signed a new deal only a wee while back and the £130k muted that he can walk for seems to only account for his basic salary, no bonus', no hassle factor in finding a replacement, no compensation to make up for what he has endeavoured to build. All I was conveying is someone so intrinsic to the running and success of the club has seemingly been protected worse than a 16 year old youth player and that seems mental/an oversight/demanded by him (*delete as appropriate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Everything is total conjecture unless the poster knows the terms of the contract. 120k seems a decent stab in the dark from a journo to be honest given our likelihood to not stand in the managers way of a 'big' club come calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/sport/robinson-appreciates-very-lucky-position-at-motherwell-after-alessio-dismissal/ Interesting article, Sounds like Robbo realises he is in a really good position with the Well and doesn't sound in a hurry to leave anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Wonder if Barlinnie have a fives team that need coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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