Kmcalpin Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 There's a helluva lot of leaking going on; I wonder who is the source(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Quote Stoke City have been refused permission by Championship rivals Preston North End to talk to boss Alex Neil about their managerial vacancy. The 38-year-old signed a new three-year deal in April to end speculation linking him with West Bromwich Albion. Preston, currently fourth in the table, said in a statement they had reported Stoke to the English Football League for an alleged illegal approach. The struggling Potters sacked Nathan Jones as manager on Friday. North End added that "there are now no circumstances under which Stoke City would be given permission to speak to Alex Neil". In a further statement on Saturday, Preston said Neil had "reiterated his commitment" to the club and his current contract. BBC Sport understands there is a compensation clause in Neil's contract that would entitle Preston to more than £3m should the Scot eventually leave Deepdale. I get that Robinson has aspirational career goals and by no means a Motherwell fixture for life and no doubt his contract would have release clauses. But 20x a difference in an equally ambitious manager shows that Preston were keen not to let Neil go on the cheap. What's the point in a 2.5 year extension when the compo to the club is effectively so paltry? And before the state the obvious brigade step in, I am well aware in the difference between the English Championship and the SPFL. The post concerns the shoring up of what is a prize asset. Just have to telegraph this now on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodo Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Change the title of the topic to "Who will take our Centre Back " . Hope we offer him an extension to his contract when he gets back to FP he is now probably our biggest asset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Goggles & Flippers said: I get that Robinson has aspirational career goals and by no means a Motherwell fixture for life and no doubt his contract would have release clauses. But 20x a difference in an equally ambitious manager shows that Preston were keen not to let Neil go on the cheap. What's the point in a 2.5 year extension when the compo to the club is effectively so paltry? People are overthinking this. When someone's contract is running down and you want to keep them, you offer a new contract - otherwise they likely leave. As a club, we tend not to stand in the way of people who want to leave - players or managers. (Most businesses are the same way, as it doesn't make sense to keep someone who is unhappy, and slavery has been illegal for quite some time). The compensation thing is a bit of a red herring. If Robinson just walked out today, breaking his contract, there's not much we could do except sue him personally - and I'd be surprised if we would get a year's salary from a case like that as it's not like we paid him the money up front. As far as Preston are concerned, if they get promoted and finish bottom of the EPL, they earn about £100 million then receive around another £42 million in parachute payments. Of course, if they stay in the EPL they earn a lot more. So that £3 million payment is 2% of 1 season's minimum potential earnings should Alex Neil succeed. If we asked clubs to pay 2% of one season's of Motherwell's potential earnings should Robinson succeed, we'd probably get a lot less than we are asking now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Hearts are going g to seek permission to talk to SR apparently according to bbc gossip page Tynecastle, while the Edinburgh club are likely to approach Motherwell next week for permission to talk to Stephen Robinson. (Daily Mail, print edition) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 They’re also looking to appoint a Sports Director so hopefully the fact that he wouldn’t know who he was working under will be a big turn off for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, santheman said: They’re also looking to appoint a Sports Director so hopefully the fact that he wouldn’t know who he was working under will be a big turn off for him. There's an article in The Scotsman today suggesting McPhee might still be in a with a shout for the job and Budge is happy to take her time. While the ghost of Levein is still haunting the board room, it sounds like Budge is considering McPhee as an interim until the end of the season and once they finally get shot of Craigy-boy, they can recruit a new director and manager. Of course, it's a journo article that may be well wide of the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 They're going to have to appoint someone soon or go into a mental December still fucking about looking for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 4:35 PM, GazzyB said: Disagree, I think he'd do very well at Hearts. Would be a bit gutted to see McCall in the dugout against us, probably my favourite ever manager for us. The second half of this game was one of my favourite ever watching us... McCall did so well with us because he was given the money to have players like Ojamaa, Higdon, Law, Hutchy, Hammell, Lasley, Randolph etc. He'll get that again at Hearts. Good to see those highlights again but I get more annoyed than I should by petty mistakes like the commentator saying that was Faddy's first goal for us since his hat-trick against Livi in the last game of the 2002-03 season. I thought he scored a double against Thistle in August in the last game before he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Off to the Yids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Pettywulliegrew-2 said: Off to the Yids What does that mean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Spurs must have sacked their manager. Seemed to be doing a decent job, but modern football has no place for long term planning or loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, The African said: Spurs must have sacked their manager. Seemed to be doing a decent job, but modern football has no place for long term planning or loyalty. Crazy decision, but then one or two on here wanted Robinson sacked not long ago, common sense sometimes goes out the window in sport, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Gets his team to a Champions League Final, then gets sacked before xmas? Aye sounds familiar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Pettywulliegrew-2 said: Off to the Yids Racist, and anti semitic no need for that on this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 15 hours ago, texanwellfan said: What does that mean? Footballing slang and can be used as a racist (anti semitic term). Not a word I'd use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Footballing slang and can be used as a racist (anti semitic term). Not a word I'd use. Me neither, but as always, it's complicated. http://heebmagazine.com/going-war-tottenham-hotspurs-yid-army/47633 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Never actually heard that term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Never actually heard that term Flag in Madrid for this years Champions league final 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 14 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: Gets his team to a Champions League Final, then gets sacked before xmas? Aye sounds familiar! And the chosen one gets the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, texanwellfan said: Never actually heard that term That's because most of the people that use it aren't Jewish and many Jews see it as antisemitic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Pettywulliegrew-2 said: Flag in Madrid for this years Champions league final Being on a banner does not mean it's not racist and anti semitic, just confirms those who use that kind of language are, so no place for it on here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I always took it as a word that was in the same context as us being called Sweaty Socks or the Welsh Taff's or the Irish Paddy's. I appreciate some people will see it as a derogatory term and some will embrace it. However until someone Motherwell minded of a Jewish/Israeli background advises the nuances then maybe best to not stick the hand out for the mock outrage bus to stop and hop on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 It’s been used for years as a form of racism, Spurs fans adopted it as a way of combating that abuse. Not for me personally in a modern society but we don’t live in a perfect society. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 59 minutes ago, Goggles & Flippers said: I always took it as a word that was in the same context as us being called Sweaty Socks or the Welsh Taff's or the Irish Paddy's. I appreciate some people will see it as a derogatory term and some will embrace it. However until someone Motherwell minded of a Jewish/Israeli background advises the nuances then maybe best to not stick the hand out for the mock outrage bus to stop and hop on. The link I posted contains no mock outrage. Just an explanation of why many Jewish football fans find it offensive, and how the vast majority of people who toss it around are not Jewish. Personally, I've never found a situation where I would need to use it, so it's no bother avoiding it and risk offending anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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