joewarkfanclub Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 I think the problem with Hartley is that he is an old style blood and snotters centre half and was suited to the way we played before. He is far less comfortable with the ball at his feet and passing it out from the back as we do now. The injuries have taken out whatever pace he had left so he is left looking vulernable when pressed high one on one. He does however offer good experience and organisational skills and a serious goal threat at set pieces. Mugabi doesnt offer all of those things as yet so do you stick or twist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Well Well said: and to think MJC predicted a loss to this mob. He really is a troll. MJC predicts a loss every week against every mob. He became a parody of himself years ago and I'm surprised he still bothers making the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I think the problem with Hartley is that he is an old style blood and snotters centre half and was suited to the way we played before. He is far less comfortable with the ball at his feet and passing it out from the back as we do now. The injuries have taken out whatever pace he had left so he is left looking vulernable when pressed high one on one. He does however offer good experience and organisational skills and a serious goal threat at set pieces. Mugabi doesnt offer all of those things as yet so do you stick or twist? I too couldn't understand why Hartley kept going for the world-cuppy pass last night. Shouldn't be too difficult to manage his strengths and weaknesses. As Stephen Robinson often says, (paraphrasing here) - find what you're good at and do it well. Hartley just needs to be the guy who wins the ball and gets it to the nearest player in claret and amber so that they can then do the fancy stuff. Unlike Gallagher who will stroll past 3 players in his own 6 yard box, if Hartley is under pressure, his team mates needs to make themselves available. It seems like an easy fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 39 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I think the problem with Hartley is that he is an old style blood and snotters centre half and was suited to the way we played before. He is far less comfortable with the ball at his feet and passing it out from the back as we do now. The injuries have taken out whatever pace he had left so he is left looking vulernable when pressed high one on one. He does however offer good experience and organisational skills and a serious goal threat at set pieces. Mugabi doesnt offer all of those things as yet so do you stick or twist? If Hartley keeps it simple and just passes to the player next to him, he does OK, and he does bring organisational and motivational qualities to the side. It's when he tries to do a Gallagher diagonal pass or long ball up the touchline he runs into trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Meanwhile: City of Dundee 0 - 4 Scottish Premiership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 what time is the draw? I was expecting to see it by now?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: what time is the draw? I was expecting to see it by now?? It's on during Sportscene, which starts at 7.15pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: what time is the draw? Later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, weeyin said: If Hartley keeps it simple and just passes to the player next to him, he does OK, and he does bring organisational and motivational qualities to the side. It's when he tries to do a Gallagher diagonal pass or long ball up the touchline he runs into trouble. Over the years central defenders and central midfielders knocked the ball wide to Hammell, maybe Carroll needs to make himself more available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 So they are making us sit through the highlights again for the draw.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, ropy said: Over the years central defenders and central midfielders knocked the ball wide to Hammell, maybe Carroll needs to make himself more available. I think Donnelly has been Hartley's outball recently, which is why he might have struggled a bit yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, Andy H said: So they are making us sit through the highlights again for the draw.... I had no idea how bad Sportscene was. The Livi guy is particularly dreadful tonight Edit - draw starting now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 St Mirren Away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Happy enough with that. Should take a decent crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Wanted BSC Glasgow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superwell87 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Could be better, could be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Very winnable and we will take big numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Quote Fifth Round: Weekend of Saturday 8 February 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, superwell87 said: Could be better, could be worse. Thats about it. Another away tie against Premiership opposition. It would've been nice to get an easier team for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 1920 kick off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 We've won our last three games there. We'll make it four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Hopefully better than last time we played them in cup and got beat, also bad memories of league cup in late 80's when paul kinnaird scored winner for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 If we do make it past St Mirren, doesn’t look like the possibility of any “easy” ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, Yorkyred said: Very winnable and we will take big numbers. Away stand holds what? 1200? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettywulliegrew-2 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Thats about it. Another away tie against Premiership opposition. It would've been nice to get an easier team for once. Home tie would have been nice.......but realistically siting third in the league with aspirations of staying there St Midden away is a cracking draw........they play on grass...... £6.40 return on the train.......avoided the ugly sisters/sheep/Edinburg....etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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