weeyin Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Welldaft Mk1 said: The Euro play offs are one legged affairs. So we play Israel at home and then Norway or Serbia away. That is what I mean. That was dreamed up by UEFA and we all accept it. Uefa dreamed up one legged qualifying ties for Europa qualifying and again if we got 2 or 3 away draws then bad luck but we accept it. Under normal circumstances Well fans could still travel to these away games. Suddenly deciding that means no crowds for sporting integrity is such a crock of shit. If they said because of Covid then fine but don’t give me sporting integrity from UEFA of all institutions ! Ah sorry. I see what you mean now. For me the European competitions died when they went to groups. I used to love the 2-leg knockout format. But as with all things in modern football, big clubs' profit comes first. And don't get me started on teams that are "demoted" to the later stages of the Europa League when they finish 3rd in their Champions League group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, weeyin said: Ah sorry. I see what you mean now. For me the European competitions died when they went to groups. I used to love the 2-leg knockout format. But as with all things in modern football, big clubs' profit comes first. And don't get me started on teams that are "demoted" to the later stages of the Europa League when they finish 3rd in their Champions League group. I was in a poor mood last night you could probably tell... Agree with all of the above. Especially demotion of teams from Champions League. As hard as they might try to defend themselves almost every decision UEFA make is to favour the larger, more popular and better supported sides in Europe. It is almost exclusively geared so there are very few small teams able to venture far in their respective competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Bump. Draw on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decorator Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/news/0260-1010f00d989a-ab1d4ca745eb-1000--uefa-meets-with-general-secretaries-from-its-55-member-associat/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real dosser Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 I'm sure I read somewhere that if we are drawn against a team from a country that hasn't an air bridge agreement with us then we have to find a neutral venue to play the game or we are given a 3-0 defeat and are knocked out of competition. ? Anyone confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, real dosser said: I'm sure I read somewhere that if we are drawn against a team from a country that hasn't an air bridge agreement with us then we have to find a neutral venue to play the game or we are given a 3-0 defeat and are knocked out of competition. ? Anyone confirm. There's a bit about it in The Record. Apparently Poland, Greece, Hungary and Cyprus have offered stadiums with travel corridors to allow games to be played in neutral venues if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, weeyin said: There's a bit about it in The Record. Apparently Poland, Greece, Hungary and Cyprus have offered stadiums with travel corridors to allow games to be played in neutral venues if necessary. I do appreciate that they're not even pretending at the Record anymore. Headline could simply have said 'Scottish Clubs'. Nope, it's Celtic and Rangers... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Anyone know what time the draw is tomorrow? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53706842 Quote As for Aberdeen and Motherwell, they will learn their fate on Monday. Like Celtic, last season's third and fourth placed clubs are seeded, therefore meaning they will both avoid the likes of Maribor, Rosenborg and Maccabi Haifa in the first round, while facing the prospect of being drawn against Welsh side Bala Town or Derry City and Bohemians of Ireland. The second round is where it could get tasty, though. Aberdeen would be seeded if they got through but Motherwell would not, meaning they could be drawn against the likes of AC Milan, Tottenham Hotspur and Galatasaray amongst other standout European names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 If we get through the 1st Round which with the way we are playing is not a given, then you can just see us drawing Tottenham or AC Milan since we cannot attend matches. If it was business as usual we would draw a side form Russia or Kazakhstan. Just our luck. Imagine what Tottenham would do to the side that has played the opening two games. Thank Christ it would be a one legged affair. Probably still be double figures. Hopefully they would play a B team. Should be excited about Europe. But with the inability to attend or travel to games, our form and the form of our streaming company. Sure I will be up for it once the games come around but a bit meh at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMFCfan1886 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Anyone know what time the draw is tomorrow? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53706842 I think the draw is at 11am tomorrow for the prelim round then our round. Also here's a list of the teams we could get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Welldaft Mk1 said: If we get through the 1st Round which with the way we are playing is not a given, then you can just see us drawing Tottenham or AC Milan since we cannot attend matches. If it was business as usual we would draw a side form Russia or Kazakhstan. Just our luck. Imagine what Tottenham would do to the side that has played the opening two games. Thank Christ it would be a one legged affair. Probably still be double figures. Hopefully they would play a B team. Should be excited about Europe. But with the inability to attend or travel to games, our form and the form of our streaming company. Sure I will be up for it once the games come around but a bit meh at the moment. Hopefully we get a decent run, but it might only be 1 or 2 games and then we get pumped by some of the big names. But the main thing is we are in the tournament and for 10 of the 12 clubs who start each season in the premiership, A cup win or European qualifying is the dream. Over the years we have a decent record for euro qualifying which for a club of our size is a great achievement so its good to be able to look forward to another Euro campaign this year, as I said it might not last too long, but we can live the dream and aim for the group stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Anyone know what time the draw is tomorrow? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53706842 Why are we seeded in first round but not the second, while the 4 th placed team ( Aberdeen) are seeded ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Why are we seeded in first round but not the second, while the 4 th placed team ( Aberdeen) are seeded ? Club coefficient points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Why are we seeded in first round but not the second, while the 4 th placed team ( Aberdeen) are seeded ? Team co-efficient. Aberdeen are ranked higher than Us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 I read somewhere that if there are a couple of upsets in the Preliminary round we could also end up seeded for the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 When is our first tie supposed to be played and when do we find out where it will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, texanwellfan said: When is our first tie supposed to be played and when do we find out where it will be? Think the game is 27th August, draw is tomorrow 10/8, all rounds are 1 leg ties till group stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Shaka said: Team co-efficient. Aberdeen are ranked higher than Us Thanks , probably complicated how they work that out but they do have more of a European pedigree than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 49 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Thanks , probably complicated how they work that out but they do have more of a European pedigree than us. Settle yourself in your favourite chair and enjoy.... https://kassiesa.net/uefa/ .... and if you're anything like me by the time you've digested it all our European campaign may well have come and gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Not sure how they've worked this out: https://mobile.twitter.com/MotherwellFC/status/1292534559649693696 Quote Motherwell FC @MotherwellFC Our potential opponents in the UEFA Europa League first qualifying round draw. Breidablik NSI Runavik or Barry Town United Glentoran or HB Torshavn The draw will be made on Monday at 12pm. Ties are one leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMFCfan1886 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Not sure how they've worked this out: https://mobile.twitter.com/MotherwellFC/status/1292534559649693696 Usually before a draw they split teams into groups like this, but in groups of 10 or so teams. Normally happens an hour or so before the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 I read UEFA have confirmed Round 1 is for this season is regionalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 With our form Barry Town or Glentoran will be a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, steelboy said: With our form Barry Town or Glentoran will be a challenge. Don’t fancy the Scandinavians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 hours ago, ropy said: Don’t fancy the Scandinavians. We have been shocked by welsh and Icelandic teams before but let's be honest we have better players than all of those sides and if we turn up with the right attitude we will be too strong for all of them. So now I have jinxed it feel free to copy and remind me of this post if we are out of Europe by 28/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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