underboyleheating Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, livivoice said: Hearing that the players are strongly behind Las. Pity they weren’t as strongly behind Robbo by stringing a few results together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 The sun just made that up, if you pay close attention you can tell its bollocks, because its written in the sun. It's not unusual for the remaining staff to take care of the team while a club searches for a manager, I doubt we're going to wait 4 games before starting a search, and like previously, Lasley will apply like everyone else, just like robbo did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Not sure about the wisdom of this. I might be proved wrong but I think we need a fresh approach. Not the easiest 4 games in which to prove yourself. That said our big failing has been at home and we only have one home game in that run.......against Sevco. Totally agree Dave, Lasley was part of the decisions taken by SR re tactics, which player is best in which position etc, so are we to think that in 4 games he is going to radically change tactics and our approach to games, I am with you a new approach is required not a re-boot of the old. That said he has probably earned his chance so fair play to him, who knows it might work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 No disrespect to Las, but Ross has much more management experience and one of the reasons he said he came back to Scotland was to take on another management position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Stevie Crawford has done a decent job at Dunfermline. Would certainly prefer him to Paul Hartley, who has been mentioned earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Take no joy in him leaving but I think he was scunnered by performances and lack of tempo. He also seemed to lack the drive and vigour he exhibited at the start of his tenure. Looking at the last few SPFL appointments, Lennon, arguably has plateaued St Brendan's team at best, reality is he has made them much worse despite trophies. Davison, don't see any improvement over Wright except he managed to point May in the general direction of a goalmouth. Killie had that Italian who lost the dressing room now it seems Steve Clark's assistant is a career assistant. Hearts, shitshow after another from when Cathro was appointed. Let's not overlook the advantage of Livvy's pitch to Holt's record. Ross County, highlight was beating us in week 1, Yoggie to the rescue? Accies, Brain Rice ... give me strength. It would be hard for anyone (except the usual suspects) to argue over Robinson during his tenure however it did seem to be on a downward trajectory acknowledged by himself. Yes the team is roughly in the table where he picked it up. While not finding and developing, he blooded and played a number of our youth setup for big financial gain. Financially we are immeasurably healthier and would be infinitessimily if he hadn't given wages to a number of imposters. I'd say in our league at present there are 5 managers who have improved their side (some marginally) over what they inherited. Gerrard, McInnes (however I'd argue he plateaued about 2/3 years ago), Goodwin (too early? based on that Rangers result maybe and recent form), Ross and Robinson. Mellon has inherited Neilson's team but they are more than holding their own as newly promoted, don't feel it fair yet to judge. Holt improved his team so should be above but they declined of late and let's not ignore the importance of that pitch in picking up points. The rest are maintaining that status quo or taking their teams backward. Davison, Kettlewell (as newly punted), Lennon and Dyer (probably the worst performer). No surprise Las gets 4 games (in theory), that leaves 8 days before the transfer window closes. In reality, to stand any chance he needs a bounce against Accies and St Mirren. Good results in the current circumstances is not to be drubbed by Rangers and Aberdeen away is on paper tough but oddly one of our most successful away days for the past 10 years. The board will have an idea after St. Mirren if there's promise and shouldn't be expecting much from the following two games. However the wheels have already been set in motion to court outside interest and will potentially gain more impetus on the 10th of January depending on the result the day before. I also guess he will be told he has to get results with what he has unless there were loan signings already in the pipeline. That could be argued as handcuffing but it is a big step up for someone with no pedigree so I have no issue with that. Also if we do appoint outside the club, having 8 days to wheel and deal to bring in players has to be seen as a minor incentive over playing out things till May with what they inherit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker86 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, well_said said: We've just lost a manager whose style of football bored the pants offs, we dont need another like him. At this point it doesn't matter. We need an experienced pair of hands to steady the ship. I'd gladly shitfest our way to the end of the season winning ugly if it meant we stay up. Review it at the end of the season when we are out of the worst of Covid, fans are coming back and then move on. The club has done so much good work in recent years on and off the field so it would be a travesty to go down or even get sucked into a relegation battle. Sometimes pragmatism works. Edited January 1, 2021 by Walker86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Keith Lasley taking over: best case scenario, Davie Hay, worst, Maurice Malpas. Does anyone on here know how much input he had in signings, team selection, tactics? Or if he's interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 54 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: Keith Lasley taking over: best case scenario, Davie Hay, worst, Maurice Malpas. Does anyone on here know how much input he had in signings, team selection, tactics? Or if he's interested? I just need to know if he sanctioned the subs, we can take it from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Any news on anyone who has left the club today...I believe at least O'Donnell contract is up although I think we had an option until the end of the season or was I dreaming that up.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, bobbybingo said: Keith Lasley taking over: best case scenario, Davie Hay, worst, Maurice Malpas. Does anyone on here know how much input he had in signings, team selection, tactics? Or if he's interested? He’s interested. Obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Onthefringes said: He’s interested. Obviously. Fair enough, just no heard or read him saying anything about it yet. Not every caretaker wants the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Spiderpig said: Totally agree Dave, Lasley was part of the decisions taken by SR re tactics, which player is best in which position etc, so are we to think that in 4 games he is going to radically change tactics and our approach to games, I am with you a new approach is required not a re-boot of the old. That said he has probably earned his chance so fair play to him, who knows it might work out. Yep, would love for Las to succeed but I do wonder if the dressing room needs a new voice, a fresh set of eyes on the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenboab Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Think Derek Adams would be a good shout if we were able to get him off Morecambe. Pretty decent record north and south of the border and would know our transfer market. If he does well he would inevitably leave for Aberdeen when that jobs up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Heisenboab said: Think Derek Adams would be a good shout if we were able to get him off Morecambe. Pretty decent record north and south of the border and would know our transfer market. If he does well he would inevitably leave for Aberdeen when that jobs up though. Just as long as we dont swap him for that twat mcinnes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 If Las takes the job he is essentially putting himself out of work, even a successful Lasley regime would last 3 years, just a typical shelf life, then what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, ropy said: If Las takes the job he is essentially putting himself out of work, even a successful Lasley regime would last 3 years, just a typical shelf life, then what. Good job you weren't Alex Ferguson's career advisor or more recently but not on the same tier (yet) .... Robbie Neilson's. However there is an element of truth to what you say, he's settled nearby with a young family if it doesn't work out is it likely he'd be offered another backroom job at the club like Durrant at Rangers who seems to have stayed there through thick and thin. Stay as a Number 2? No guarantee that any outside appointee will want to keep him over bringing his his own guy. Everyone concerned will want to see a bump in the next few games, if there isn't one then he drops to being the cheapest option to take us to the summer. Naturally I expect a "Lasley out" thread on here tomorrow at 15:01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Well Well said: Any news on anyone who has left the club today...I believe at least O'Donnell contract is up although I think we had an option until the end of the season or was I dreaming that up.? Lang has departed; Archer has left; O'Donnell is contracted until the end of the month (source P & B); don't know about Hastie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Kmcalpin said: Lang has departed; Archer has left; O'Donnell is contracted until the end of the month (source P & B); don't know about Hastie. Do Rangers not have an option to recall him this month ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Yorkyred said: Do Rangers not have an option to recall him this month ? would you if you were rangurs ???? half a season played and approx 45 mins played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSR Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 hours ago, fizoxy said: if you pay close attention you can tell its bollocks, because its written in the sun. Brilliant, made me spit out my coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Lang has departed; Archer has left; O'Donnell is contracted until the end of the month (source P & B); don't know about Hastie. From what I've heard O'Donnell's contract expires today. Could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 13 hours ago, livivoice said: Hearing that the players are strongly behind Las. You're hardly likely to hear anything else. Pity they didn't show the same commitment to Robinson. Some senior players need to look very hard at themselves this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideoflanarkshire Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 From what I’ve heard the players knew SR was thinking about resigning for a while now. Do you think this has affected the performances? Also, if the players knew then the club knew, would like to hope they are well through the selection process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 17 hours ago, star sail said: What makes you think Craig Brown was an excellent appointment? I don't disagree that he was the right man at the time to steady the ship but from memory we were 5th when he started and 5th when he left. I remember a good few thumping at the hands of Celtic on the way through as well and his brand of football was never scintillating (6-6 v Hibs apart) and I don't remember him having a forward thinking vision. Was it not Gannon that signed the players that Craig Brown worked with? He was a steady pair of hands. Maybe that alone made him an excellent appointment at the time? As we all know from recent experience league position is not always indicative of performance on the field. Putting aside the chaos behind the scenes, Gannon left us with 4 wins from 17 league matches and 1 win in 10. When Craig Brown came we went on an unbeaten run of 12 matches. In the second half of the season we won 5 matches by a 2 goal margin and put 3 past Kilmarnock, Aberdeen, Hearts (all wins) and Hibs and Rangers (both draws). We scored 29 goals from 20 matches compared to 16 goals in 19 matches this season. Oh and against Celtic we lost one match 0-4. All the rest were either 0-1 or 1-2 defeats. I know what I'd rather be watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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