bobbybingo Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: A very important game granted and, one we don't want to lose but it won't be season defining. What could be season defining is our transfer dealings in the next few days. I think if we lose, it could very well be season defining. Then you're not far away from needing favours in addition to picking up enough points to get out the bottom 2. We look devoid of confidence and we've been easy beat all season. If the new manager bounce doesn't kick in sharpish we'll be relying on a few new signings from the lower leagues to save us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&A not the shop Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 We need 6 more wins to stay up (10th) you would think. 6 wins from 15, it's going to be tough. Wednesday is huge, don't usually pay for away streams but may do so Wednesday as this game is massive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, weeyin said: This team doesn't even rank in my worst top 10. You are being kinder to this squad of players than they deserve. They are definitely in the top ten of the worst Motherwell teams I’ve witnessed in my 50 + years of watching the Well. And at 58 years of age I’ve seen a fair few in my time. I’ll also be kind to them and rank them at number 10 in my list. However, if they get relegated they will easily be in the top 5 due to poor standard of opposition they have had to face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Obviously I would like us to win this game. But while obviously it would be great for player confidence, I'm wondering whether a 4-0 scudding like we gave them in October could be counterproductive. Might lull Alexander and the board into thinking that the squad doesn't need that much surgery. A 1-0 shitfest of a win which still shows up our flaws might be the best outcome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleeastdave Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 11 hours ago, numpty said: I know we haven't had much luck lately, but plenty of folk have been sent off for foul and abusive language before. Our very own Steve Jennings among them... I might be wrong but are you not thinking of the Hearts game when he was sent off for putting a hand on the referee? I am not saying that no player has been sent off for foul and abusive language, I think most referees tend to ignore it, but with that novice referee (cannot remember his name) his inexperience came through by sending Polwarth off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc88 Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 14 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Why would we fancy our chances against Ross County... have you seen our results since October? Because if we don't, we may as well give up on our season now. If we don't fancy our chances against the teams around us, when do we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, middleeastdave said: I might be wrong but are you not thinking of the Hearts game when he was sent off for putting a hand on the referee? I don't know as I wasn't there, but that's not what was reported: Quote During the match Jennings, who had already been booked, was shown a straight red card for foul and abusive language aimed at referee Stevie O'Reilly late in the 2-1 home defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, numpty said: I don't know as I wasn't there, but that's not what was reported: I think he was sent off for a combination of accusing the ref of cheating us and putting his hand on him. Like Polworth, he'd already been booked, then got a straight red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 11 hours ago, MelvinBragg said: Obviously I would like us to win this game. But while obviously it would be great for player confidence, I'm wondering whether a 4-0 scudding like we gave them in October could be counterproductive. No it wouldn't. I'm being very greedy, I know, but I don't just want us to beat them, I want us to be utterly ruthless and rub their noses in the mud and scud them. Taking a leaf out of their book from February 2015 to a degree, we should play the long game and hurt them psychologically for the next few games. That game will live long in my memory, for the way they treated us. I have no doubt that they'll be utterly ruthless again under John Hughes - they'll be under instructions to give us a physical battering. All that said I'd accept a narrow 1-0 win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 If you are 13 games without a win (including cup match) and you are bottom and you then you can't win against the team in 2nd bottom who is it you are actually going to beat? We have Dundee Utd at home afterwards which I think we have a reasonable chance in (depending on result on Wednesday) but after that we have four away games, including Celtic and Hibs, and our only home match is against Hamilton who seem to find it pretty easy to get points on our ground. My fear is if we don't win on Wednesday night or on Saturday our confidence just nose dives going into a tough fixture list. By the end of Feb the dye may well have been cast. We can't go 19 games without a win and expect to stay up. Realistically you are looking at 40 points to avoid the play off. We've got 19 points from 66. We now need 21 points from 45 points. That's a big step up in performance. Time is running out rapidly. In my opinion we need to win against County. We need to win for ourselves but we also have to take 3 points off a rival. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: If you are 13 games without a win (including cup match) and you are bottom and you then you can't win against the team in 2nd bottom who is it you are actually going to beat? We have Dundee Utd at home afterwards which I think we have a reasonable chance in (depending on result on Wednesday) but after that we have four away games, including Celtic and Hibs, and our only home match is against Hamilton who seem to find it pretty easy to get points on our ground. My fear is if we don't win on Wednesday night or on Saturday our confidence just nose dives going into a tough fixture list. By the end of Feb the dye may well have been cast. We can't go 19 games without a win and expect to stay up. Realistically you are looking at 40 points to avoid the play off. We've got 19 points from 66. We now need 21 points from 45 points. That's a big step up in performance. Time is running out rapidly. In my opinion we need to win against County. We need to win for ourselves but we also have to take 3 points off a rival. Cannae argue with any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erskine Alpha Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 We need to play this game and every other game after, like its a cup final. We need to change the formation too potentially 442 with the midfield 4 in a diamond this should at least allow us to get control of the middle of the park. If we don't do these things then we will be circling the plug hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said: If you are 13 games without a win (including cup match) and you are bottom and you then you can't win against the team in 2nd bottom who is it you are actually going to beat? We have Dundee Utd at home afterwards which I think we have a reasonable chance in (depending on result on Wednesday) but after that we have four away games, including Celtic and Hibs, and our only home match is against Hamilton who seem to find it pretty easy to get points on our ground. My fear is if we don't win on Wednesday night or on Saturday our confidence just nose dives going into a tough fixture list. By the end of Feb the dye may well have been cast. We can't go 19 games without a win and expect to stay up. Realistically you are looking at 40 points to avoid the play off. We've got 19 points from 66. We now need 21 points from 45 points. That's a big step up in performance. Time is running out rapidly. In my opinion we need to win against County. We need to win for ourselves but we also have to take 3 points off a rival. You're right, its nit terminal yet, theres a few bad teams down there. Got a bit of fear that the one season we looked to have a decent outfit, we go down Think we have the players to get out of it but like someone said, every game is a biggie now. John Hughes will have them kicking everything on Wednesday, we will need to be at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleeastdave Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 hours ago, numpty said: I don't know as I wasn't there, but that's not what was reported: Apologies I thought it was when he put his hands on the referee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 The players already here have till 8pm tomorrow night to prove they have anything about them. Sitting joint bottom after 23 games, I think that's being generous. Another failure, the board have 4 more days. If neither do the business, I wouldn't fancy being in Graham Alexander's shoes on February 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsj Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Erskine Alpha said: We need to play this game and every other game after, like its a cup final. We need to change the formation too potentially 442 with the midfield 4 in a diamond this should at least allow us to get control of the middle of the park. If we don't do these things then we will be circling the plug hole I agree. At the moment our wingers are a waste of a shirt with none of them able to keep hold of the ball. It’s time to pack the midfield, go 2 up front and fight for your life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, nsj said: I agree. At the moment our wingers are a waste of a shirt with none of them able to keep hold of the ball. It’s time to pack the midfield, go 2 up front and fight for your life. I agree up to a point but what about Steven Lawless? Maybe being too ambitious but I'd like to see another winger coming in with either Hastie or Seedorf moving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Knickers wringing all over the place...wouldn't have fancied being in the trenches with any of the shitebags on here 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 10 hours ago, mfc88 said: Because if we don't, we may as well give up on our season now. If we don't fancy our chances against the teams around us, when do we? We fancy our chances when we aint playing like a collective bunch of fannies. They have shown absolutely nothing this season to give the average supporter the slightest reason to believe they won't make an arse of it. Its frankly unimportant whether the fans fancy our chances or not , that attitude is more important in the players heads. They may themselves fancy their chances. I have zero confidence in them to share that view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Its frankly unimportant whether the fans fancy our chances or not And yet 99% of posts on here would tend to suggest the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Knickers wringing all over the place...wouldn't have fancied being in the trenches with any of the shitebags on here Good luck being in them with Mugabi, Crawford, Seedorf and Long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Knickers wringing all over the place...wouldn't have fancied being in the trenches with any of the shitebags on here Here's the thing: folk commenting on here aren't the shitebags who've put us at the arse end of the league. Would you fancy being in the trenches with that lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, steelboy said: Good luck being in them with Mugabi, Crawford, Seedorf and Long. Knicker Wringer In Chief 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, bobbybingo said: Here's the thing: folk commenting on here aren't the shitebags who've put us at the arse end of the league. Would you fancy being in the trenches with that lot? The ones who are virtually giving up the ghost are the shitebags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Erskine Alpha said: We need to play this game and every other game after, like its a cup final. We need to change the formation too potentially 442 with the midfield 4 in a diamond this should at least allow us to get control of the middle of the park. If we don't do these things then we will be circling the plug hole no we shouldnt we lose cup finals ..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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