wellwell91 Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 We were well beat today But if you look at the goals we lost they were all self inflicted Jake Carroll shate out of a tackle for the 1st Amateur defending and offside for the 2nd Least said about Polworths penalty for the 3rd the better. Don’t know when Campbell, O’Hara, Smith came down with the illness but if it was last night or this morning not a lot of time to reorganise Also noted we were missing 2 subs on the bench and Semple was not there is he injured/ sick also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: have you heard they dont like him? just think , even if that was the case, you want to be earning win bonuses etc....at a club like Motherwell, that makes a massive difference to your wage. No it was just based on a comment Craigan made on BBC Radio Scotland. He was commenting on the lack of fight in the team. I think he was talking in general terms but he did say that not liking he manager is not a reason for a lack of effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Yodo said: It's all Robinsons fault he left us wae a load of shite which will have to be outed before we can move on . Other question I really would like answered is did GA sign the players in the window or were they already in the pipeline If they were in the pipeline they would have been in quicker, these are on Alexander but they were very likely not our first or second choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellwell91 Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, ropy said: It was literally 7 months ago And he has not wanted to be here since !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, wellwell91 said: We were well beat today But if you look at the goals we lost they were all self inflicted Jake Carroll shate out of a tackle for the 1st Amateur defending and offside for the 2nd Least said about Polworths penalty for the 3rd the better. Don’t know when Campbell, O’Hara, Smith came down with the illness but if it was last night or this morning not a lot of time to reorganise Also noted we were missing 2 subs on the bench and Semple was not there is he injured/ sick also It’s been known most of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: In the last three years we've hardly won a game where Campbell was missing, never mind everyone else. But let's be honest about it, St Johnstone would probably have beat us anyway. They have been better than us all season. With the exception of his 2 recent goals, even Campbell has been very poor for the last 2/3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, ropy said: If they were in the pipeline they would have been in quicker, these are on Alexander but they were very likely not our first or second choices. Doubt he was here long evough to identify targets - let alone get them signed up. I'm fairly sure these would have been in the pipeline long before he arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, ropy said: If they were in the pipeline they would have been in quicker, these are on Alexander but they were very likely not our first or second choices. Naive in the extreme... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, star sail said: No it was just based on a comment Craigan made on BBC Radio Scotland. He was commenting on the lack of fight in the team. I think he was talking in general terms but he did say that not liking he manager is not a reason for a lack of effort. hopefully yheres nothing in it , think a lit of them are just average at best , its easy to down tools when you're getting runaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: just think , even that makes a massive difference to your wage. There are probably a few of them thinking the wage of their next contract will be bigger if they spend the remainder of the season in the stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 Alexander saying Magloire played ok. Aye right Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellwell91 Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Onthefringes said: It’s been known most of the week. Ah must have missed that … when where was this reported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, wellwell91 said: Ah must have missed that … when where was this reported It doesn’t have to be reported. The key stakeholders knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, numpty said: Now now, it was only 7-1. Doh! We might be needing that goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, steelboy said: Alexander saying Magloire played ok. Aye right Graham. didn't think he was the worst, carroll could've been mind you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 49 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: In the last three years we've hardly won a game where Campbell was missing, never mind everyone else. But let's be honest about it, St Johnstone would probably have beat us anyway. They have been better than us all season. Exactly its those self same injured players who have put us where we are . We are rank and have been rank all season. Where are all the smug crowing merchants tonight who were giving all the "pantywetters" a hard time .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, steelboy said: Donnelly, Carson and Dunne have all had multiple long term absences. You can't rely on players like that. Even with most of the squad fit we'd probably have still lost, they put us where we are today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 Fed up hearing the same interview from people around For Park, we weren’t good enough and we need to look at ourselves, but this current crop of players will never be good enough as they don’t seem to care if we win or loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Good post Iain. I've been going to FP even longer and I've never known such an injury/illness crisis. Is it just bad luck or is there more to it. There seems to be a helluva lot of training/mystery problems. It doesn't feel right. 26 minutes ago, underboyleheating said: Just checked the score as I switched off the stream at HT. Heartened to see it wasn’t anymore than 3-0 as I was fully expecting to see a 5 or 6-0 by full time. It’s batten down the hatches time as we look out on our feet and devoid of ideas on how to get out of this mess. We will be fortunate to come out of this in eleventh or god forbid twelfth place. This motherwell team couldnt batten down their flies wie super glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 Two brief spurts (apt for this lot) have kept us off the bottom. Without a third, we've had it, because there is no chance of consistency, unless it's the kind we had at the end of Robinson's reign. Injuries/illnesses clear up en masse, maybe we survive. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted February 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 As bad, if not worse than last week, without the excuse of a red-card (and trying use to Barry Maguire being hit with the ball in the face as a factor). I had been generally impressed with what Alexander had achieved in the short time since his appointment. I've had my concerns about the way we've tried to shut up shop towards the end of games, but we had made some progress. But last weekend had the alarm bells ringing such as the lack of activity when the game was beginning to get away with us. That has only been exacerbated after today. It was an excellent finish for Saints opener granted but you don't have to look too hard to see how it could have been prevented. The second, the epitome of shooty-in. The third, further lack of awareness from Polworth on the back of Pittodrie. But Polworth wasn't alone in seemingly learning nothing from previous matches. Three isolated forwards again? Especially when you have little or nothing in the way of creativity to give anything remotely resembling a fighting chance and a make-shift defence that desperately requires all the protection it can get. Still the perseverance with the short kick outs at goal-kicks? No Jock, it isn't dangerous because of the conditions or the pitch. Its dangerous because of the frequency we try to do it, the signal it sends out to the opposition and the standard of the players trying to carry the manoeuvre. Alexander is being hamstrung with the sheer number of players that are available to him, that is pretty obvious, but he's not helped himself in several respects and has now presided over back to back results and performances that have been as poor, if not worse, as those that resulted in the change of manager in the first place. There was absolutely nothing. One attempt to goal to twenty plus from St Johnstone. That is an absolutely horrendous statistic. A team that we could actually have overtaken had we won and we are allowing more than twenty efforts at goal from them. Apalling! That the teams below us have gained no ground and that another game has been ticked off is about as positive a spin as you could put on it. It says much that its as good as it gets. There was some great work undertaken in the early part of this year that put us in a position to really move ourselves clear of bother. We are in danger of completely screwing up all that good work. We have a game in hand that could allow us to put ourselves seven clear of second bottom but do you have any faith that we can go to Paisley in midweek and make that happen. I'm afraid to say that at this moment in time I'm struggling to find it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: You can't realistically count Dunne as a possible starter, given how long he's been out and the questions over whether he'll ever play for us again. You'd be as well using Tait or Hartley's absences as an excuse. We're probably missing Donnelly more than anyone, but the club knew how long he'd be out, so why the hell didn't they prioritise finding a replacement long before January's window opened? We managed to bring Kelly in on relatively short notice, so it can be done. Somebody has to answer for the mob we did recruit, because the few who are available are undoubtedly useless in our current situation. Dunn was starting games before his injury and in my view would have played alongside Gallagher this season if fit, however as you rightly say he has been out for a long time. Donnelly has been a huge miss, more than many probably realise. Regarding the transfer window signings it would be good to know who pulled the trigger, probably a mix of those of interest to Robinson and Alexander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Yorkyred said: Regarding the transfer window signings it would be good to know who pulled the trigger, probably a mix of those of interest to Robinson and Alexander. Yup, I'd love to know who and what the rationale was, but we never will. If we scrape through this season, that's one thing, but the possibility that recruitment policy was in any way deliberate and could be repeated is horrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 Unless we have a Lazarus-esque recovery from Gallagher, Campbell, Donnelly, O’Hara and Lawless etc I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this now, and even with them back it’s still a big ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 just listened t to the GA interview there and as the caption below it says ,BLA BLA BLA , ffs even heez now beginning to sound like a broken man n heez only in the door , how he thinks the magloire ( or whatever ) played well feck me if that was" well" then were doomed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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