Spiderpig Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kmac said: Not at all, but realistically, our opening 4 fixtures are quite kind to us, it’s going to be a tough league this season and capitalizing on every opportunity will be vital The league will be the same as it is every year, the blue or green uglies will win it, then miles behind those two, Aberdeen, and Hibs, will carry on the fight for 3rd place. The next mini league will see Motherwell, Hearts, Dundee untd, and StJ going for the Last 2 top 6 places and possibly a Euro spot The other 4, Ross County, Livi, St Mirren and Dundee will be the relegation group . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmac Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 39 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: The league will be the same as it is every year, the blue or green uglies will win it, then miles behind those two, Aberdeen, and Hibs, will carry on the fight for 3rd place. The next mini league will see Motherwell, Hearts, Dundee untd, and StJ going for the Last 2 top 6 places and possibly a Euro spot The other 4, Ross County, Livi, St Mirren and Dundee will be the relegation group . I’m sure Killie thought the same last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Spiderpig said: The league will be the same as it is every year, the blue or green uglies will win it, then miles behind those two, Aberdeen, and Hibs, will carry on the fight for 3rd place. The next mini league will see Motherwell, Hearts, Dundee untd, and StJ going for the Last 2 top 6 places and possibly a Euro spot The other 4, Ross County, Livi, St Mirren and Dundee will be the relegation group . suspect St Mirren will be higher up than the top 4. An excellent manager and they seem to have the a good eye for players. That said we should be able to compete with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 33 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: suspect St Mirren will be higher up than the top 4. An excellent manager and they seem to have the a good eye for players. That said we should be able to compete with them Aye , Good eye for ex well players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Kmac said: There’s also two weeks until the season starts and 4 games against opposition (before the window closes) that we need to be taking 8 points from if we’re serious about sitting in the top 6 next April… Which we won't do if we sign crap and are stuck with them. Like I said it's about getting the right guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmac Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Which we won't do if we sign crap and are stuck with them. Like I said it's about getting the right guys. Absolutely correct however the right players also need time to bed and that’s a luxury we don’t have much of 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Kmac said: There’s also two weeks until the season starts and 4 games against opposition (before the window closes) that we need to be taking 8 points from if we’re serious about sitting in the top 6 next April… So you'd rather get in 3 bodies for the first 4 games that aren't too good, than 3 players that are key team members for the next couple of seasons? If we're bringing in players from down south, it's quite possible we won't see them until late July or early August. In fact, we brought in guys like Watt and O'Donnell as free agents after the window closed and that worked out OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 "Second smallest budget in the league" according to Robinson..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Setting up my super duper spreadsheet for the season and I noticed that of all the players we've used in the opening league cup matches NONE of them have played 50 league matches for the club. Highest is grizzled 'Well veteran Tony Watt with 39 league appearances. Liam Donnelly is the highest scorer with 8 goals. Overall the 14 players used so far only have 274 appearances and 16 league goals for Motherwell. Even if you include all contracted players the only one that can better Tony Watt's league appearances tally is Liam Grimshaw with 101. Just shows you how much player turn over there has been recently. Totally bizarre we could put out a side where guys with 20 or 30 appearances are the old guard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 hours ago, steelboy said: "Second smallest budget in the league" according to Robinson..... What are Killie doing to have double our commercial revenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: What are Killie doing to have double our commercial revenue? The famous killie pies, they must sell a few of those, obviously more than Chapmans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: What are Killie doing to have double our commercial revenue? Do they still run the Park Hotel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, steelman1991 said: Do they still run the Park Hotel? No. Ownership was transferred to their majority shareholder when restructuring finances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, 0Neils40yarder said: What are Killie doing to have double our commercial revenue? Last season they said they would give a credit to season ticket holders if they couldn't honour any of their 19 home games. By the end of the season they welched on that and offered a small discount on this season's ticket instead. According to their website, that saved them £700k. If they applied a similar approach to other parts of their commercial revenue, I imagine that quickly adds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Just shows you how much player turn over there has been recently. Also explains why I canny remember half the players these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 It's the old doubled edged sword, with the shorter contracts we have been able to move players on that have not been setting the heather on fire but at the same time the ones who you would love to keep move on without a curdy of compensation. It seems other clubs esph down south know about our diamonds in the youth system and they're even moving on before they get into our first team. We have had a different approach this season as Kelly, Shields and Woolery are all on three year deals hopefully this gives us a chance to start building some more consistency within the squad but in saying that if any generous offers came in, if they perform well then they will be off. I'm hopeful that any signings going forward would be players expected to start, it seems to have been a slow process this year as Robinson always seemed to have most of his business wrapped up prompt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 52 minutes ago, Kat said: It's the old doubled edged sword, with the shorter contracts we have been able to move players on that have not been setting the heather on fire but at the same time the ones who you would love to keep move on without a curdy of compensation. It seems other clubs esph down south know about our diamonds in the youth system and they're even moving on before they get into our first team. We have had a different approach this season as Kelly, Shields and Woolery are all on three year deals hopefully this gives us a chance to start building some more consistency within the squad but in saying that if any generous offers came in, if they perform well then they will be off. I'm hopeful that any signings going forward would be players expected to start, it seems to have been a slow process this year as Robinson always seemed to have most of his business wrapped up prompt. Giving three year deals was certain a shock, I assume the club were as certain as they could be that they were safe bets. Short of Kelly getting injuries he is certainly that, the other two less so in my view. I’m happy seeing the club offer different contract lengths based on assessments and it’s good to see players getting a lengthy trial before signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 'brilliant' additions on the way. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/motherwell-boss-graham-alexander-hopes-24600291.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: 2 'brilliant' additions on the way. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/motherwell-boss-graham-alexander-hopes-24600291.amp Brilliant is a strong word to use on this forum unless we are signing Ngolo Kante or someone similar, even then there would be doubters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Spiderpig said: Brilliant is a strong word to use on this forum unless we are signing Ngolo Kante or someone similar, even then there would be doubters. N'golo Kante isnt the type of player we need right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Too wee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kmac Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Can’t wait to see the finest that the Exeter Sunday league has to offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Not played a game yet according to Alexander so signings that have been ongoing for a while by the sound of it. Slightly worried about expectations given they are “ Brilliant”, the only way is down after that level of talking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Yorkyred said: Not played a game yet according to Alexander so signings that have been ongoing for a while by the sound of it. Slightly worried about expectations given they are “ Brilliant”, the only way is down after that level of talking up. If anybody thinks we will actually be signing "brilliant" players then maybe we're not the team for them. What he actually said, of course, was that they'd be "brilliant additions to the squad" - which is an important distinction. A decent midfielder that can pass a ball could be a brilliant addition to the squad without being a brilliant player. Plus, of course, it's just a figure of speech - but I think we all knew that really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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