weeyin Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, fizoxy said: A lot of people are spending way too much time analyzing O'donnell, and fair play to him for ignoring it and getting on with his career. No one can take those 20+ caps away from him. Plus 12 of those caps were won while playing for Motherwell - which equals the record for a 'Well player, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, weeyin said: Plus 12 of those caps were won while playing for Motherwell - which equals the record for a 'Well player, apparently. Record as in Scotland caps or any country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 hours ago, texanwellfan said: Record as in Scotland caps or any country? Scotland... he's equalled George Stevenson's record, but he has a long way to go to catch Stephen Craigan's 51. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Given the time off he’s had with illness, that was an outstanding effort from O’Donnell last night. Really pleased for him and all the squad, the feel good factor has returned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 I have been critical of sod in the past, but tonight bar one or two iffy crosses , he was very good..one part of a very good defensive line up. sometimes feel he overthinks his final ball, it could be he is trying to be too precise , it's up to forwards to attack it.Look af Ailba last night , he fires it into good areas and it's up to the forwards. We shouldn't be comparing the young lad Paterson to sod either, 2 different players , both with attributes and limitations. Its not his fault he plays with one of the old firm Anyway long winded way of saying well played Sod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 S'OD plays well for Scotland - who play a different formation to 'Well. He's pushed further up and better protected by a central back 3. He does receive a fair amount of stick - he was excellent again last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 He plays just fine for us too. It's just that when he joined the club, some fans immediately decided he was useless and will never change their mind. Despite a few dodgy crosses last night, he often hits quality balls into the box and that is something that Grimmy (and Mugabi) don't offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 hours ago, weeyin said: He plays just fine for us too. It's just that when he joined the club, some fans immediately decided he was useless and will never change their mind. Despite a few dodgy crosses last night, he often hits quality balls into the box and that is something that Grimmy (and Mugabi) don't offer. Not really , he can switch off at times and his crossing is iffy , but he had a good game last night tbf. as did jack hendry, who didn’t stand out for me before, so the old adage is true , you’re only as good or bad as your last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 5 hours ago, wellsince75 said: S'OD plays well for Scotland - who play a different formation to 'Well. He's pushed further up and better protected by a central back 3. He does receive a fair amount of stick - he was excellent again last night. In fairness and meaning no disrespect, he also plays alongside players of a far higher calibre with Scotland than he does for us. You often hear the opposite side of that argument about Andy Robertson when he is criticised for not playing as well for Scotland as he does for Liverpool. SO’D is a really good player with bags of ability but I think he is more suited to playing for Scotland and the way they play than he does for Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Great performance from O'Donnell who continues to defy his critics. Nice to see him equal George Stevenstons club record. Just goes to show how hard it is to get capped playing for Motherwell that the record has lasted so long. Fully anticiapte SOD will break it during the next round of games if fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&A not the shop Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Donnelly not on the bench for Northern Ireland tonight. Hope that's not due to an injury concern. O'Donnell is now the most capped Scotland player for us and for Killie, quite an achievement. I was going to ask how many of Craigens caps did he get while playing for us? But I'm assuming all of them as he wasn't exactly setting the heather alight when he was at Thistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, MJC_mkII said: In fairness and meaning no disrespect, he also plays alongside players of a far higher calibre with Scotland than he does for us. Agree he plays with much higher calibre with Scotland My thoughts are we don't help ourselves - other than S'OD what do we offer on the right hand side of the park - there's been no right midfield and any winger/front 3 player has been pretty poor on the right. If we had a solid back 3 behind him or someone in right midfield I think we'd see more. Putting that to the side I love seeing Well players in the national team - something we can be proud of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Donnelly not in the squad tonight for NI despite starting against Estonia. Is he injured again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, C&A not the shop said: I was going to ask how many of Craigens caps did he get while playing for us? But I'm assuming all of them as he wasn't exactly setting the heather alight when he was at Thistle. Not quite. 51 of his 54 caps were while he was at Motherwell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Not really , he can switch off at times and his crossing is iffy , but he had a good game last night tbf. His crossing is better than any other right sided player in our team and something I think we've missed since he's been out. And he's got a decent shot on him too. For Scotland, he's not as good as Robertson or Tierney, but he's much better than some make out. I agree he switches off at times - that, however, can be applied to just about everyone in our team. My main point is he's not the useless numpty some make him out to be. And when we have players like Gallagher, O'Donnell and Kelly getting international recognition while playing at Fir Park, it can do us nothing but good when it comes to attracting new players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&A not the shop Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 13 hours ago, numpty said: Not quite. 51 of his 54 caps were while he was at Motherwell. Cheers for that. They must have been really struggling for centre halfs back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, C&A not the shop said: Cheers for that. They must have been really struggling for centre halfs back then. He was very much the SOD of his day (and country). People thought he wasn’t good enough and played for an unfashionable club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Had a couple top names in his back pocket as I recall Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted September 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 SOD and Kelly in the squad, no place for Watt. No place for Gallagher either, absolute fanny he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, GazzyB said: SOD and Kelly in the squad, no place for Watt. No place for Gallagher either, absolute fanny he is. Tbh I'd still rather have Gallagher over McKenna in that middle CB spot for Scotland. McKenna has to be one of the most overhyped players ever. Ojala over either of the two of them for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Gallagher was very good but ever since all that nonsense last season, I’m not sure that he has done anything to merit inclusion in the squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Gallagher was very good but ever since all that nonsense last season, I’m not sure that he has done anything to merit inclusion in the squad. He was a classic example of a player getting too big for his boots after getting an International call up. He was superb for us during his first (3/4) season and thoroughly deserved his Scotland selection but his application last season for us was dreadful. He was the best defender at the club by a mile and he knew it, but in his mind he seemed to have decided he was already on to bigger and better things than us. Shades of Mark McGhee in 2007/08 after he was linked with the Scotland managers job actually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Great for Kelly that he is in ahead of Clark, still strange that rangers no.2 gets a place even though he is a decent keeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell Daft Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Absolutely delighted that Liam Kelly n SOD are in the squad, would love Liam to get his first cap but what’s the bet if he does the Daily Ranger n other media parts label Him as “former Rangers goalkeeper”??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 16 hours ago, GazzyB said: SOD and Kelly in the squad, no place for Watt. No place for Gallagher either, absolute fanny he is. nope gazzy cant agree there a fanny is sometimes useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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