SteelmaninOZ Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 Im a fan of Ohara - he's hard working makes a difference - a mix of O'Hara/Goss/Slattery/Donnelly is a reasonable midfield - could go crazy and play all 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: Im a fan of Ohara - he's hard working makes a difference - a mix of O'Hara/Goss/Slattery/Donnelly is a reasonable midfield - could go crazy and play all 4. He's definitely the most mobile midfielder we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2plus8 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 He’s the next player I want to see being announced as signing a new deal. A fit Mark O’Hara is a tremendous asset. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning by Name Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, 2plus8 said: He’s the next player I want to see being announced as signing a new deal. A fit Mark O’Hara is a tremendous asset. 100% agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 A good midfield is more than the sum of its parts. At the moment, it just isn't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 44 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: A good midfield is more than the sum of its parts. At the moment, it just isn't right. completely with you on this. This has been an issue for a couple of years now. Im sure a 3 man midfield could work but not with our current blend - this for me is related to the front 3, the midfield should be able to seamless link with defence and attack - ours doesn't. That said, I believe O'Hara to be part of the solution not the problem, a box to box midfielder is something we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 59 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: completely with you on this. This has been an issue for a couple of years now. Im sure a 3 man midfield could work but not with our current blend - this for me is related to the front 3, the midfield should be able to seamless link with defence and attack - ours doesn't. That said, I believe O'Hara to be part of the solution not the problem, a box to box midfielder is something we need. People persisting with the 4-3-3 doesn't work when we are going into the final straight to the split in the Top 6 and with a better record than any other non city club over the last season and a half, playing 4-3-3 virtually the entire time. What would we have had to do playing 4-3-3 for it to have been deemed to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz7 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said: People persisting with the 4-3-3 doesn't work when we are going into the final straight to the split in the Top 6 and with a better record than any other non city club over the last season and a half, playing 4-3-3 virtually the entire time. What would we have had to do playing 4-3-3 for it to have been deemed to work? I think most say it doesn't work due to the football on show is poor although I am with you in that it has got results. This type of 433 is how Alexander wants to play and outwith glasgow 2 or whenever he has switched to back 5 to close out winning positions there has not been 1 other team that has dominated us this year that I can remember. I would like a 433 like either of glasgow 2 play with ball players in midfield and exciting wingers but unfortunately our players aren't that good so we play percentages that has gotten results. Some say midfield isn't working but that is I think because the midfield doesn't play how that particular poster feels a midfield should which is also how i feel which is maintain possession create chances dominate the ball etc rather than just compete. The only time I can remember in recent years doing that is 6 months of turnbull gorrin and campbell when we were playing mostly bottom 6 teams at end of season then 1st 6 to 9 months of donnelly campbell and polworth before covid. Those midfield also struggled against glasgow 2 and against others who played more like our midfield of today. On Saturday for instance our midfield were more than a match for Ferguson and mcrorie who would likely get into every midfield in country other than glasgow 2 so that tells me that it is working in the eyes of the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 hours ago, gaz7 said: On Saturday for instance our midfield were more than a match for Ferguson and mcrorie who would likely get into every midfield in country other than glasgow 2 so that tells me that it is working in the eyes of the manager. I don't rate Ferguson at all. Really don't see it with him. The only thing that Malpas ever said while manager that I agreed with is that players win and lose you games, formations don't. Having said that. Those crying out for 442 because 433 is leaving us short in midfield seem to be missing the point. With 442, you only have two central midfielders so are probably more at risk of being outnumbered than a 433. Unless you don't play wingers, you play wide midfielders like we did under Butcher when we had Pearson and Lasley out wide. But you lose from an attacking point of view with that. My own view is that any formation that has you playing only two centre midfielders is lunacy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 18 hours ago, MelvinBragg said: My own view is that any formation that has you playing only two centre midfielders is lunacy... Sir Alf Ramsay won the World Cup and Jock Stein won the European Cup doing just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 It’s called evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning by Name Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Onthefringes said: It’s called evolution. True, but as we all know, evolution is not always a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Winning by Name said: True, but as we all know, evolution is not always a good thing. Merit in that, although it’s better than hankering after a golden age that’s long passed most by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 hours ago, El Grew said: Sir Alf Ramsay won the World Cup and Jock Stein won the European Cup doing just that. Last team that had any real success playing it was Leicester when they won the league. And they had Kante doing the work of three men. To me there's a reason that very few teams play a traditional 442 with a flat midfield four now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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