smiddy Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, fizoxy said: He's having coffee with our new defender. i hope its FU COFFY 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 I take it that the additional signings arnt happening then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Blues Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Robbos boy said: Still no update on the so called defender that's signed. https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/10161377/league-of-ireland-dan-casey-scottish-premiership-motherwell/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 I'm assuming there are no defensive midfielders in the League of Ireland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Electric Blues said: https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/10161377/league-of-ireland-dan-casey-scottish-premiership-motherwell/ This just smacks of panic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 If true can't be any worse than what we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 4:16 PM, David said: Those saying we should bin off yet another manager this season are mental. Two days and another home defeat further on are you still of the same opinion David? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Heard today Hibs are in discussion with Mikey Devlin, ex Aberdeen and Accies. Given he is from Motherwell I wonder if that is who were talking to and Hibs interest has stalled things. Been out for a while so that fits our Rehab profile. Just pure speculation but takes my mind off last night's pathetic showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Giving our injury history, we're the last place he needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Electric Blues said: https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/10161377/league-of-ireland-dan-casey-scottish-premiership-motherwell/ "If they win their game in hand" .... Good of the Sun to keep a sense of humour when reporting about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, dennyc said: Heard today Hibs are in discussion with Mikey Devlin, ex Aberdeen and Accies. Given he is from Motherwell I wonder if that is who were talking to and Hibs interest has stalled things. Been out for a while so that fits our Rehab profile. Just pure speculation but takes my mind off last night's pathetic showing. a would sign his dad Alex first great player n heez 60 now bit injury pron for his age but would fit our physio table well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsince1976 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Trialist played for the reserves tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Wellsince1976 said: Trialist played for the reserves tonight. And we got pumped 4-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 I think our development team is a bit on the younger side compared to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Still no CB and CM. Wtf is the club up to?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 11 hours ago, smiddy said: a would sign his dad Alex first great player n heez 60 now bit injury pron for his age but would fit our physio table well Good salesman though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Stevie73 said: Good salesman though you must know him stevie ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Yeah, work in Whisky industry, sold us a few bits of kit, good guy 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Stevie73 said: Yeah, work in Whisky industry, sold us a few bits of kit, good guy 👍🏻 a played wi him all through boys club levels, lovely cultured player with a bit of dig probably what we need the now a quiet assasin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, smiddy said: a played wi him all through boys club levels, lovely cultured player with a bit of dig probably what we need the now a quiet assasin I spoke to SOD about Mikey Devlin, when Alexander was in charge, he said he put a word in then, as they are mates but no joy, I’d take a punt on him for 6 months, decent at Accies, worth a gamble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 18 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: Two days and another home defeat further on are you still of the same opinion David? Sadly, yes. Unless there's an outstanding candidate out there who for some reason isn't working, and would be affordable, I don't see the point in binning Hammell. With our current financial situation I could see someone like Kettlewell being given the job, and I don't see the point in replacing one manager who has had less than six months in the job and a sub-30% win rate with a manager who had less than six months in the Ross County job before being bumped when they were four points adrift and had a sub-30% win rate. I've seen so many ludicrous suggestions over the past few days from fans, ranging from bringing in an 82 year old Craig Brown or Craig Levein, to basically telling Hammell that he's shit at his job by forcing him to accept a new number two who's more experienced. It's an absolute shitshow, but we are where we are because of the decisions made, and we need to live with them now. I've constantly said that binning any manager literally days before the new league campaign kicked off was absolute madness, but that's what we did. The only thing that would match that would be bringing in his replacement, letting him approve seven January signings, then sacking him right after that. What we need to do now is stick with the plan. Hammell has been backed in the window. His new signings will need time to get up to speed, which may be time we don't have, but that's just how it is. We now live or die by the decision to appoint him. What I'd also say is that there is virtually no time in football history where appointing three different managers in one season has seen success follow. That usually brings issues of its own, and at that point you're sliding from a club having a bad season to a club that is moving into basket case territory. That kind of volatility in the board room can have a knock-on effect on which players and managers we can attract in future. We already saw one player come in on the basis that Alexander was his manager and his career basically grind to a halt. Do we want another manager to come in who possibly doesn't fancy some of the new signings we've made and a similar thing to happen? Nah, we need to stay the course now. We've appointed Hammell, we've made moves in the window. Now we need to let it play out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, David said: Sadly, yes. Unless there's an outstanding candidate out there who for some reason isn't working, and would be affordable, I don't see the point in binning Hammell. With our current financial situation I could see someone like Kettlewell being given the job, and I don't see the point in replacing one manager who has had less than six months in the job and a sub-30% win rate with a manager who had less than six months in the Ross County job before being bumped when they were four points adrift and had a sub-30% win rate. I've seen so many ludicrous suggestions over the past few days from fans, ranging from bringing in an 82 year old Craig Brown or Craig Levein, to basically telling Hammell that he's shit at his job by forcing him to accept a new number two who's more experienced. It's an absolute shitshow, but we are where we are because of the decisions made, and we need to live with them now. I've constantly said that binning any manager literally days before the new league campaign kicked off was absolute madness, but that's what we did. The only thing that would match that would be bringing in his replacement, letting him approve seven January signings, then sacking him right after that. What we need to do now is stick with the plan. Hammell has been backed in the window. His new signings will need time to get up to speed, which may be time we don't have, but that's just how it is. We now live or die by the decision to appoint him. What I'd also say is that there is virtually no time in football history where appointing three different managers in one season has seen success follow. That usually brings issues of its own, and at that point you're sliding from a club having a bad season to a club that is moving into basket case territory. That kind of volatility in the board room can have a knock-on effect on which players and managers we can attract in future. We already saw one player come in on the basis that Alexander was his manager and his career basically grind to a halt. Do we want another manager to come in who possibly doesn't fancy some of the new signings we've made and a similar thing to happen? Nah, we need to stay the course now. We've appointed Hammell, we've made moves in the window. Now we need to let it play out. I agree with most of that. But we need to see improvement from both Hammy and the team. If he gets his new players on the field and they are given time to bed in and there is no improvement, or even worse they do an Aberdeen and down tools and throw him under the bus, then unfortunately the board cant just stand by and watch the inevitible happen without trying everything in their power to avoid relegation. Lets hope that it doesnt come to that though, because I do agree changing manager again is likely to have a poor chance of success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I agree with most of that. But we need to see improvement from both Hammy and the team. If he gets his new players on the field and they are given time to bed in and there is no improvement, or even worse they do an Aberdeen and down tools and throw him under the bus, then unfortunately the board cant just stand by and watch the inevitible happen without trying everything in their power to avoid relegation. Lets hope that it doesnt come to that though, because I do agree changing manager again is likely to have a poor chance of success. Agreed. One thing I have taken solace in thus far is that we've never really looked like an absolute shambles the way Aberdeen have. They look like a lost cause, losing by 5 and 6 goals at a time, being smacked around by Darvel etc. We've been losing games by the odd goal most times, and until the St Johnstone game I've never really seen us in a game this season with the exception of the old firm where I've thought we looked well beaten. But, as you say, if we go to Aberdeen and repeat the St Johnstone performance it could be trouble. I'm fairly sure though that if Hammell goes we're as good as down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 30 minutes ago, David said: Sadly, yes. Unless there's an outstanding candidate out there who for some reason isn't working, and would be affordable, I don't see the point in binning Hammell. With our current financial situation I could see someone like Kettlewell being given the job, and I don't see the point in replacing one manager who has had less than six months in the job and a sub-30% win rate with a manager who had less than six months in the Ross County job before being bumped when they were four points adrift and had a sub-30% win rate. I've seen so many ludicrous suggestions over the past few days from fans, ranging from bringing in an 82 year old Craig Brown or Craig Levein, to basically telling Hammell that he's shit at his job by forcing him to accept a new number two who's more experienced. It's an absolute shitshow, but we are where we are because of the decisions made, and we need to live with them now. I've constantly said that binning any manager literally days before the new league campaign kicked off was absolute madness, but that's what we did. The only thing that would match that would be bringing in his replacement, letting him approve seven January signings, then sacking him right after that. What we need to do now is stick with the plan. Hammell has been backed in the window. His new signings will need time to get up to speed, which may be time we don't have, but that's just how it is. We now live or die by the decision to appoint him. What I'd also say is that there is virtually no time in football history where appointing three different managers in one season has seen success follow. That usually brings issues of its own, and at that point you're sliding from a club having a bad season to a club that is moving into basket case territory. That kind of volatility in the board room can have a knock-on effect on which players and managers we can attract in future. We already saw one player come in on the basis that Alexander was his manager and his career basically grind to a halt. Do we want another manager to come in who possibly doesn't fancy some of the new signings we've made and a similar thing to happen? Nah, we need to stay the course now. We've appointed Hammell, we've made moves in the window. Now we need to let it play out. I don't want Hammell to be binned, but I can see that he would probably need to be binned if we lose to Aberdeen and Raith, and that's a very real possibility. If that played out, we would clearly be going down, and would you want/trust Hammell to bring us back up at that stage of perpetual failure? Perhaps a future question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, David said: Agreed. One thing I have taken solace in thus far is that we've never really looked like an absolute shambles the way Aberdeen have. They look like a lost cause, losing by 5 and 6 goals at a time, being smacked around by Darvel etc. We've been losing games by the odd goal most times, and until the St Johnstone game I've never really seen us in a game this season with the exception of the old firm where I've thought we looked well beaten. But, as you say, if we go to Aberdeen and repeat the St Johnstone performance it could be trouble. I'm fairly sure though that if Hammell goes we're as good as down. Sounds like the last chance saloon. If - after hitting the bottom and putting in our worst display of the season as a reaction - we were to lose to an absolute shambles who just performed their manager out the door, any further delay would be ludicrous. This is it - win, or at worst draw with a battling performance, or it has to be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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