steelboy Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Spiderpig said: What a load of shite blaming Goss for their 1st goal ffs there were another 4 players who were not willing to take a yellow for the team and bring Tillman down. That's why we keep losing games because we're not streetwise enough to realise when the odd "tactical foul" is required. If we had done that yesterday I reckon we would have taken something from that game as their 1st goal gave them a boost they never deserved. Goss would have taken a booking if he wasn't on a yellow. My point was that the idiocy at the free kick in the first half contributed to us losing the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleeastdave Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 I honestly don’t think we are a bad side we certainly have good players, obviously our defence let us down again yesterday but the 11 games we have played for the first round of fixtures I think we only had one bad second half performance against Killie and possibly the St Johnstone last minute of the game, the Hearts game god knows how we lost that game never mind loose 3 goals, but the rest of the games we never really out of the games and to have a 0 goal difference is quite an achievement considering we have lost 6 of the 11 games played. my main concern now is the injury list and no signs of any coming back soon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning by Name Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Watched highlights to see if goals were as bad as I first thought to then discover they were worse!!!. The first goal is an absolute joke with 5 of our players not capable of putting in a challenge. The 2nd yet another howler from big bevis as nowhere near his man. He is a cracking big guy but hopefully Lamie injury not bad as if we are having to rely on Sol and Bevis as a partnership it really gives me the fear If Lamie hadnt been injured the first goal wouldnt have happened. Mugabe is a total bombscare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, steelboy said: Goss would have taken a booking if he wasn't on a yellow. My point was that the idiocy at the free kick in the first half contributed to us losing the game. So what's the excuse for the other 4 players who had a chance to bring Tillman down and didn't as I said nothing to do with Goss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasdeid Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Find the the apparent dislike of Tierney mystifying. His positional sense and willingness pick up ball in central middle third and drive ball forward something we've lacked for years. He's young and will only improve with time & games. Where I sit PoD many think the same.Morris on the other hand, should never have started and either Cornelius or Maguire a better option on the day. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Spiderpig said: So what's the excuse for the other 4 players who had a chance to bring Tillman down and didn't as I said nothing to do with Goss. Not like they actually had to take a yellow. Just someone go tackle him. Or at least put pressure on him to divert him away from the goals. FFS, it Was like a guard of honor escorting him to goal. I have heard nothing about the injuries but apparently everyone knows it’s a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Had forgotten about this till I saw an article on FB, but can the knob or knobs that keep chucking stuff onto park , pack it in, just costing the club money ...footballers like the rest of us don't deserve to be assaulted at work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dasdeid said: Find the the apparent dislike of Tierney mystifying. His positional sense and willingness pick up ball in central middle third and drive ball forward something we've lacked for years. He's young and will only improve with time & games. Where I sit PoD many think the same.Morris on the other hand, should never have started and either Cornelius or Maguire a better option on the day. I’m also mystified by the expectations of where people think we should be as a team right now. Stevie has been in charge for what, 2 months? What are the expectations after 2 months. Sounds like people bailing on him already. We are already a much better team to watch even when we don’t play well. We have a decent number of points. We have created a barrow load of chances, much more than under previous manager. So issues are not converting enough chances, basic defending mistakes, lack of depth in squad. I think same issues under many of the previous managers but most of them chose to address the issues by shutting up shop and playing dull dreadful football that would make your eyes bleed at the expense of trying to improve the level of football on display. I think the new manager is addressing it by trying to improve the style of football we play. Yes we will loose game we shouldn’t but I think we will end up winning more games by being a better football team than other clubs. We will also be a hell of a lot better to watch. Some people tag him as being Naieve but I think it’s been so long since they’ve seen us play decent football that they forgot it comes with some risks, as does approaching games with the attitude that’s it’s just a scrap to see who wins the ball or gets the lucky break. We will still have our good and bad games, especially as we are in the process of “re-learning” how to actually play football. But I think we have a much better chance of success as a good footballing team than we do as a bunch of scrappers playing hoof ball and just muscling our way thru games. So it will take time to get there but I see a much better team ahead with Stevie at the helm than a few of our previous managers. COYW!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Dasdeid said: Find the the apparent dislike of Tierney mystifying. His positional sense and willingness pick up ball in central middle third and drive ball forward something we've lacked for years. He's young and will only improve with time & games. Where I sit PoD many think the same.Morris on the other hand, should never have started and either Cornelius or Maguire a better option on the day. I would agree, I think Morris is totally out of his depth, Tierney is young and has talent, he just needs support and time not one or two writing him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, texanwellfan said: I’m also mystified by the expectations of where people think we should be as a team right now. Stevie has been in charge for what, 2 months? What are the expectations after 2 months. Sounds like people bailing on him already. We are already a much better team to watch even when we don’t play well. We have a decent number of points. We have created a barrow load of chances, much more than under previous manager. So issues are not converting enough chances, basic defending mistakes, lack of depth in squad. I think same issues under many of the previous managers but most of them chose to address the issues by shutting up shop and playing dull dreadful football that would make your eyes bleed at the expense of trying to improve the level of football on display. I think the new manager is addressing it by trying to improve the style of football we play. Yes we will loose game we shouldn’t but I think we will end up winning more games by being a better football team than other clubs. We will also be a hell of a lot better to watch. Some people tag him as being Naieve but I think it’s been so long since they’ve seen us play decent football that they forgot it comes with some risks, as does approaching games with the attitude that’s it’s just a scrap to see who wins the ball or gets the lucky break. We will still have our good and bad games, especially as we are in the process of “re-learning” how to actually play football. But I think we have a much better chance of success as a good footballing team than we do as a bunch of scrappers playing hoof ball and just muscling our way thru games. So it will take time to get there but I see a much better team ahead with Stevie at the helm than a few of our previous managers. COYW!!! Honestly I think he’s getting way less stick than he would be if he was not Stevie Hammell. I don’t disagree with much of what you post but by the same degree he does not get a free pass just because of who he is. Entertainment value is an 8/10 but other than that he’s no more than 5/10 In his time in charge. The entertainment does need to come with a sensible balance and as you say a level of risk. It’s making sure that over the next couple of months he gets that balance right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Yorkyred said: Entertainment value is an 8/10 but other than that he’s no more than 5/10 In his time in charge. The entertainment does need to come with a sensible balance and as you say a level of risk. It’s making sure that over the next couple of months he gets that balance right. I remember the fans crying out for entertainment when Alexander was apparently stinking the joint up. Under the previous manager we got two draws at Ibrox and a draw at Fir Park against Rangers, which is decent going, but none of that really mattered. He came in when we were looking terrible, and guided us to an 8th place finish, then a 5th place finish and a quarter final in the Scottish Cup in his first full season. All in all, a decent record, even if the season was a bit mental with that run without a win from end of December until March. But, many fans were quick to say that they paid their money to be entertained, so we're getting what we wanted. One way to look at it is if we're in 9th or 10th at the tail end of the season it's going to be exciting watching to see if we can play our way out of relegation trouble. That's maybe better value for money than holding Rangers to a draw at Ibrox and boring 5th or 6th place finish. If we're wanting entertaining football which also puts wins on the board then it's going to be really difficult to get that with our budget. I wouldn't bet on Guardiola accomplishing that at Motherwell, never mind Stevie Hammell. As things are we're certainly easier on the eye, but that comes with more risk and a higher chance of mistakes being made that could cost us. Just the way it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 First time I've seen the first goal close up, Tierney lack of physique showed there , even leaning into Malik might have been enough, but suppose he's a work in progress? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, David said: I remember the fans crying out for entertainment when Alexander was apparently stinking the joint up. Under the previous manager we got two draws at Ibrox and a draw at Fir Park against Rangers, which is decent going, but none of that really mattered. He came in when we were looking terrible, and guided us to an 8th place finish, then a 5th place finish and a quarter final in the Scottish Cup in his first full season. All in all, a decent record, even if the season was a bit mental with that run without a win from end of December until March. But, many fans were quick to say that they paid their money to be entertained, so we're getting what we wanted. One way to look at it is if we're in 9th or 10th at the tail end of the season it's going to be exciting watching to see if we can play our way out of relegation trouble. That's maybe better value for money than holding Rangers to a draw at Ibrox and boring 5th or 6th place finish. If we're wanting entertaining football which also puts wins on the board then it's going to be really difficult to get that with our budget. I wouldn't bet on Guardiola accomplishing that at Motherwell, never mind Stevie Hammell. As things are we're certainly easier on the eye, but that comes with more risk and a higher chance of mistakes being made that could cost us. Just the way it is. How quickly they forget. "Apparently"? The bit you miss out is the drain we were heading down under Alexander. Evidenced by the last six months....not just December to March.... of his tenure culminating in that shambles against Sligo which likely cost the Club a fortune. That's a pretty important aspect to ignore. Alexander did well originally and deserves credit and thanks for that. But his reluctance to adapt or acknowledge the need for change when we were in freefall ultimately saw him leave. The football on show was unbearable when the points dried up. For those Alexander supporters who now question the merit of replacing him with Hammell or anybody else I ask you if you really believe we would be better off had he stayed? And if the answer is yes, then on what basis that takes account of his performance in 2022? Hammell has made mistakes and probably will make more. But he is learning and is a breath of fresh air. In time I believe he will secure enough points to keep us safe and from there take us forward. Much is being made of one win in however many and of Sunday's narrow loss to Rangers. Admittedly a weakened Rangers side coming off a humiliation from a team that were Champions League runners up. Depleted team or not, every one of those Rangers players on Sunday would walk into our team. As for the current run of results let's consider the Shields penalty not awarded at Easter Road and the assault on Tierney at Celtic Park. All ifs and buts of course, but things could have been so different. Two draws there and the Ross County win would have been seen as an excellent return. Small margins. And most fans and pundits were of the view the Hearts result did not reflect the game. I guess that's why Motherwell were applauded off the park. When Hammell was appointed everybody (even those who were against his appointment for whatever reason) acknowledged he would need time and probably a lot of it to turn around the shambles he inherited and to introduce his own structure and ethos. How long has he been in charge? Twenty years since we have beaten Rangers in the League yet Sunday is a disaster it seems. No leeway given at all for our own run of injuries in the week leading up to the game and the fact we had a load of kids on the bench. Feels like a few on here (not you David) are licking their lips at the thought of Hammell failing and them being proven correct. Well, Alexander has gone and Hammell is the man in charge. People need to accept it. And he has the support of the vast majority of fans. How long should he get to prove himself? At least this season and a couple more transfer windows in my opinion. Beyond that, if things have not worked out, he will be history. As for Sunday? it wasn't great but it was much more of a competition than the game last April. Who was in charge then? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Really don't understand all this pish about no-one being willing to take a yellow for the team to stop the first goal. There were bodies close enough to Tillman to have made a fair tackle or to have got themselves between the ball and the goal at the very least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, dennyc said: How quickly they forget. "Apparently"? The bit you miss out is the drain we were heading down under Alexander. Evidenced by the last six months....not just December to March.... of his tenure culminating in that shambles against Sligo which likely cost the Club a fortune. That's a pretty important aspect to ignore. Alexander did well originally and deserves credit and thanks for that. But his reluctance to adapt or acknowledge the need for change when we were in freefall ultimately saw him leave. The football on show was unbearable when the points dried up. For those Alexander supporters who now question the merit of replacing him with Hammell or anybody else I ask you if you really believe we would be better off had he stayed? And if the answer is yes, then on what basis that takes account of his performance in 2022? Hammell has made mistakes and probably will make more. But he is learning and is a breath of fresh air. In time I believe he will secure enough points to keep us safe and from there take us forward. Much is being made of one win in however many and of Sunday's narrow loss to Rangers. Admittedly a weakened Rangers side coming off a humiliation from a team that were Champions League runners up. Depleted team or not, every one of those Rangers players on Sunday would walk into our team. As for the current run of results let's consider the Shields penalty not awarded at Easter Road and the assault on Tierney at Celtic Park. All ifs and buts of course, but things could have been so different. Two draws there and the Ross County win would have been seen as an excellent return. Small margins. And most fans and pundits were of the view the Hearts result did not reflect the game. I guess that's why Motherwell were applauded off the park. When Hammell was appointed everybody (even those who were against his appointment for whatever reason) acknowledged he would need time and probably a lot of it to turn around the shambles he inherited and to introduce his own structure and ethos. How long has he been in charge? Twenty years since we have beaten Rangers in the League yet Sunday is a disaster it seems. No leeway given at all for our own run of injuries in the week leading up to the game and the fact we had a load of kids on the bench. Feels like a few on here (not you David) are licking their lips at the thought of Hammell failing and them being proven correct. Well, Alexander has gone and Hammell is the man in charge. People need to accept it. And he has the support of the vast majority of fans. How long should he get to prove himself? At least this season and a couple more transfer windows in my opinion. Beyond that, if things have not worked out, he will be history. As for Sunday? it wasn't great but it was much more of a competition than the game last April. Who was in charge then? For what it’s worth I think he will be given time, I can only see the board getting rid if we are in the bottom two, if that happens he won’t make the season. They were patient with both Robinson and Alexander, that won’t change with Hammell but staying in the division is crucial regardless of who’s in charge. I don’t have the history with the club and Hammell so for me he’s just another manager who will be judged on results which is all it really comes down to at any club regardless of the level of entertainment on offer. Supporters want entertainment as long as it includes winning games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Yorkyred said: For what it’s worth I think he will be given time, I can only see the board getting rid if we are in the bottom two, if that happens he won’t make the season. They were patient with both Robinson and Alexander, that won’t change with Hammell but staying in the division is crucial regardless of who’s in charge. I don’t have the history with the club and Hammell so for me he’s just another manager who will be judged on results which is all it really comes down to at any club regardless of the level of entertainment on offer. Supporters want entertainment as long as it includes winning games. Correct! They are not mutually exclusive I think our last couple of managers focused on only results. I think Hammell is trying to deliver results and entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Dasdeid said: Find the the apparent dislike of Tierney mystifying. His positional sense and willingness pick up ball in central middle third and drive ball forward something we've lacked for years. He's young and will only improve with time & games. Where I sit PoD many think the same. He's a talented lad and I too just don't get the criticism. I get that he's a bit lightweight at the moment and easily flattened or bundled off the ball but the club will be aware of this and will toughen him up and help him to develop physically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, David said: If we're wanting entertaining football which also puts wins on the board then it's going to be really difficult to get that with our budget. I wouldn't bet on Guardiola accomplishing that at Motherwell, never mind Stevie Hammell. As things are we're certainly easier on the eye, but that comes with more risk and a higher chance of mistakes being made that could cost us. Just the way it is. Absolutely. Its a continuum of course and it doesn't have to be one or the other style, but teams at our level probably can never be successful results wise by playing flowing, expansive and entertaining football. I hope to be proved wrong of course but I don't expect to see it while I'm still above ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 I'm OK with entertaining football and a few less wins. There's no expectation of winning the league these days, so outside of a cup run the main reason for forking out gate money is to be entertained. I'm OK with "it's the result that matters" in a cup tie, but managers like McGhee (the first time) and McCall showed we can have some entertainment on the pitch and still finish in decent league position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: Absolutely. Its a continuum of course and it doesn't have to be one or the other style, but teams at our level probably can never be successful results wise by playing flowing, expansive and entertaining football. I hope to be proved wrong of course but I don't expect to see it while I'm still above ground. Any team playing against other teams of the same Level should be capable of playing entertaining football and winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning by Name Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 14 hours ago, David said: I remember the fans crying out for entertainment when Alexander was apparently stinking the joint up. Under the previous manager we got two draws at Ibrox and a draw at Fir Park against Rangers, which is decent going, but none of that really mattered. He came in when we were looking terrible, and guided us to an 8th place finish, then a 5th place finish and a quarter final in the Scottish Cup in his first full season. All in all, a decent record, even if the season was a bit mental with that run without a win from end of December until March. But, many fans were quick to say that they paid their money to be entertained, so we're getting what we wanted. One way to look at it is if we're in 9th or 10th at the tail end of the season it's going to be exciting watching to see if we can play our way out of relegation trouble. That's maybe better value for money than holding Rangers to a draw at Ibrox and boring 5th or 6th place finish. If we're wanting entertaining football which also puts wins on the board then it's going to be really difficult to get that with our budget. I wouldn't bet on Guardiola accomplishing that at Motherwell, never mind Stevie Hammell. As things are we're certainly easier on the eye, but that comes with more risk and a higher chance of mistakes being made that could cost us. Just the way it is. Or losing twice to an Irish team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 12 hours ago, dennyc said: How quickly they forget. "Apparently"? The bit you miss out is the drain we were heading down under Alexander. Evidenced by the last six months....not just December to March.... of his tenure culminating in that shambles against Sligo which likely cost the Club a fortune. That's a pretty important aspect to ignore. Alexander did well originally and deserves credit and thanks for that. But his reluctance to adapt or acknowledge the need for change when we were in freefall ultimately saw him leave. The football on show was unbearable when the points dried up. For those Alexander supporters who now question the merit of replacing him with Hammell or anybody else I ask you if you really believe we would be better off had he stayed? And if the answer is yes, then on what basis that takes account of his performance in 2022? Hammell has made mistakes and probably will make more. But he is learning and is a breath of fresh air. In time I believe he will secure enough points to keep us safe and from there take us forward. Much is being made of one win in however many and of Sunday's narrow loss to Rangers. Admittedly a weakened Rangers side coming off a humiliation from a team that were Champions League runners up. Depleted team or not, every one of those Rangers players on Sunday would walk into our team. As for the current run of results let's consider the Shields penalty not awarded at Easter Road and the assault on Tierney at Celtic Park. All ifs and buts of course, but things could have been so different. Two draws there and the Ross County win would have been seen as an excellent return. Small margins. And most fans and pundits were of the view the Hearts result did not reflect the game. I guess that's why Motherwell were applauded off the park. When Hammell was appointed everybody (even those who were against his appointment for whatever reason) acknowledged he would need time and probably a lot of it to turn around the shambles he inherited and to introduce his own structure and ethos. How long has he been in charge? Twenty years since we have beaten Rangers in the League yet Sunday is a disaster it seems. No leeway given at all for our own run of injuries in the week leading up to the game and the fact we had a load of kids on the bench. Feels like a few on here (not you David) are licking their lips at the thought of Hammell failing and them being proven correct. Well, Alexander has gone and Hammell is the man in charge. People need to accept it. And he has the support of the vast majority of fans. How long should he get to prove himself? At least this season and a couple more transfer windows in my opinion. Beyond that, if things have not worked out, he will be history. As for Sunday? it wasn't great but it was much more of a competition than the game last April. Who was in charge then? I'm not questioning the appointment of Hammell, for the record. I actually think he'll do okay for us. What I am saying is that as a fan base we need to be realistic, and take the positives from whatever kind of approach the manager at the time employs. If we find ourselves in a position where the stars align and we're getting decent results and playing some nice football those are the days to be really enjoyed, as they don't happen all that often. Alexander, for all his faults, can sit there today and point at the actual end results his football attained. Arrived in January with the club in relegation trouble, and took them to a relatively comfortable 8th place finish, followed by a 5th place finish and European football qualification in his only full season. Sure, those who didn't like him for various reasons can point to the five draws, six losses and zero wins we got between December and March, while his supporters (if they exist) can point to his nine wins, four draws and seven losses from August to the end of December in the same year. Along with some decent draws against Rangers. Promotion and relegation isn't decided on an arbitrary period of time in any given season. It's based on the entirety of the season, and if we're going to take into account the zero wins from December to March we have to acknowledge the nine wins between August and December. And everything you said in your post there about Hammell is true. He's made mistakes, he will make more, and there has been circumstances that if they had been different we'd be in a different place today, but the same goes for any manager. I seriously doubt any Motherwell fan wants Stevie Hammell of all people to fail so they can point at the results of a manager who's history with the club lasted 18 months. I certainly don't. I don't think Alexander was anything special, by the way. He was a good, solid manager at a time when we needed a good, solid manager. I just don't think he was as bad or calamitous as some people are painting him to be. Hammell's teams play better football, but do seem to show the naivety you'd expect from a manager just learning his craft at the senior level. He also needs at least three transfer windows. The summer wasn't the best period for him to put his stamp on the team, so I'd personally like to see him given until this time next year or thereabouts before we start making any decisions on him, unless we fall into a tailspin, which hopefully won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 13 hours ago, dennyc said: How quickly they forget. "Apparently"? The bit you miss out is the drain we were heading down under Alexander. Evidenced by the last six months....not just December to March.... of his tenure culminating in that shambles against Sligo which likely cost the Club a fortune. That's a pretty important aspect to ignore. Alexander did well originally and deserves credit and thanks for that. But his reluctance to adapt or acknowledge the need for change when we were in freefall ultimately saw him leave. The football on show was unbearable when the points dried up. For those Alexander supporters who now question the merit of replacing him with Hammell or anybody else I ask you if you really believe we would be better off had he stayed? And if the answer is yes, then on what basis that takes account of his performance in 2022? Hammell has made mistakes and probably will make more. But he is learning and is a breath of fresh air. In time I believe he will secure enough points to keep us safe and from there take us forward. Much is being made of one win in however many and of Sunday's narrow loss to Rangers. Admittedly a weakened Rangers side coming off a humiliation from a team that were Champions League runners up. Depleted team or not, every one of those Rangers players on Sunday would walk into our team. As for the current run of results let's consider the Shields penalty not awarded at Easter Road and the assault on Tierney at Celtic Park. All ifs and buts of course, but things could have been so different. Two draws there and the Ross County win would have been seen as an excellent return. Small margins. And most fans and pundits were of the view the Hearts result did not reflect the game. I guess that's why Motherwell were applauded off the park. When Hammell was appointed everybody (even those who were against his appointment for whatever reason) acknowledged he would need time and probably a lot of it to turn around the shambles he inherited and to introduce his own structure and ethos. How long has he been in charge? Twenty years since we have beaten Rangers in the League yet Sunday is a disaster it seems. No leeway given at all for our own run of injuries in the week leading up to the game and the fact we had a load of kids on the bench. Feels like a few on here (not you David) are licking their lips at the thought of Hammell failing and them being proven correct. Well, Alexander has gone and Hammell is the man in charge. People need to accept it. And he has the support of the vast majority of fans. How long should he get to prove himself? At least this season and a couple more transfer windows in my opinion. Beyond that, if things have not worked out, he will be history. As for Sunday? it wasn't great but it was much more of a competition than the game last April. Who was in charge then? Absolutely spot on. And whatever happens this season we are well shot of Alexander as the guy was taking us absolutely nowhere and he thought Josh Morris was an acceptable addition to the squad he finished last season with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 I’m not convinced it’s ever as black or white as some would have us believe on here. One moment the team are amazing, the next the worst squad in history. Robinson and Alexander excellent managers that got us out of problems and did well in the cup to absolute bomb scares who did not have a clue what they were doing, there is just about always a middle ground that’s rarely trodden on here. Hammell will be the same, good and bad runs, sometimes a hero and the next week a villain. All had the same objective, stay in this league regardless of how we look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 8 hours ago, texanwellfan said: Any team playing against other teams of the same Level should be capable of playing entertaining football and winning. Kind of in agreement with this but if the other team plays to frustrate/kill the game, then it’s a lot harder to play entertaining football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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