SteelmaninOZ Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 So we’re going to see an old friend will we leave him a Motherwell win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 A win opens up gap between us and utd. With hearts away and sellik home after that I feel this is a huge game for us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Another game that’s very winnable, this is a poor Dundee United team, however I fear with the goals we’re conceding another defeat could be on the cards. Hopefully we had some home truths in training with everyone understanding their job on the day because we certainly have enough in the squad to beat this Dundee United team with anything like a competent performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Can’t see anything other than another defeat. 4-1 home win and another dismal showing from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 3-1 home win and Watt to be head-butted by a frustrated KVV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, MJC_mkII said: Can’t see anything other than another defeat. 4-1 home win and another dismal showing from us. Based on both teams season so far ,Is that honestly the ONLY thing you can see? you need to change your drugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Based on both teams season so far ,Is that honestly the ONLY thing you can see? you need to change your drugs We struggle to score goals, our defence is weak and we don’t have the best records at Tannadice. I have seen enough of us this season to know that a loss here is the most likely outcome. I’ve not seen a great deal of Dundee Utd but unlike us they have players who can create and take chances. Watt, Fletcher and McGrath would walk into our team and improve it instantly. They scudded Aberdeen (who deservedly beat us at home two days ago) 4-0 a couple of weeks back. You don’t need to be on drugs to foresee a home win on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, MJC_mkII said: We struggle to score goals, our defence is weak and we don’t have the best records at Tannadice. I have seen enough of us this season to know that a loss here is the most likely outcome. I’ve not seen a great deal of Dundee Utd but unlike us they have players who can create and take chances. Watt, Fletcher and McGrath would walk into our team and improve it instantly. They scudded Aberdeen (who deservedly beat us at home two days ago) 4-0 a couple of weeks back. You don’t need to be on drugs to foresee a home win on Saturday. Possibly but 4/1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Possibly but 4/1? Wouldn’t surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Same as Saturday, a lot will depend on personnel available. Getting Efford back would be a help purely because of his pace. It forces opposing teams to defend that little bit deeper and gives us more space to play. Not really seen enough of Dundee United to know how they are going to line up, but hopefully Stevie Hammell has learned a lesson and will be prepared to change it quickly if Dundee United change formation to stop the way we play. Its a winnable game, but we need to be at it and cut out the self inflicted stuff to have any real chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I don't understand the level of pessimism , recent games have been against Old Firm, Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs. We won the game convincingly against RC. I don't think it's a stroll in the park, expect an evenly matched game and the odd goal either way likely to win it for either team. Be lovely to pick up 3 points and give us all something to cheer about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: I don't understand the level of pessimism , recent games have been against Old Firm, Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs. We won the game convincingly against RC. I don't think it's a stroll in the park, expect an evenly matched game and the odd goal either way likely to win it for either team. Be lovely to pick up 3 points and give us all something to cheer about. Hopefully the pessimism is unfounded and we see a good performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 We need to get our finger oot!!!!!!! I feel for SH as its been and will be a horrible run of fixtures but the losses are racking up and the team seems to have lost confidence. We 100% need at least 1 centre half, a fightin midfielder and a forward. Im gutted to say, Moult appears to be a waste of a squad number as does Aarons and we shld get rid of some deadwood in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: I don't understand the level of pessimism , recent games have been against Old Firm, Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs. We won the game convincingly against RC. I don't think it's a stroll in the park, expect an evenly matched game and the odd goal either way likely to win it for either team. Be lovely to pick up 3 points and give us all something to cheer about. It’s not just the results that are giving cause for concern, it’s the level of performances in the last several games that’s the worry. Our ball use is dreadful, we look slow, we aren’t creating enough chances and at the other end we are conceding cheap goals. Our best performance this season, certainly at home, was against Utd at the start of September where we actually did create chances and more or less did everything right except put the ball in the net. We’ve not seen that since, especially at Fir Park and even the first half of the 5-0 win at Ross County was pretty poor and we didn’t really start ‘clicking’ until the second goal went in. There’s no arguing we are in a horrible run of fixtures against the city clubs and we’ve also had our injury issues in that same time, but the performances have been worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 A start would be to change the formation to stop VV being isolated, or at least change the personnel to suit the current system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 This game and the St Johnstone for me are must come away with something games and if I see Steven"slowmo"Fletcher go passed any of our players then I am done!He could make a snail in treacle look like Usian Bolt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, MJC_mkII said: It’s not just the results that are giving cause for concern, it’s the level of performances in the last several games that’s the worry. Our ball use is dreadful, we look slow, we aren’t creating enough chances and at the other end we are conceding cheap goals. Our best performance this season, certainly at home, was against Utd at the start of September where we actually did create chances and more or less did everything right except put the ball in the net. We’ve not seen that since, especially at Fir Park and even the first half of the 5-0 win at Ross County was pretty poor and we didn’t really start ‘clicking’ until the second goal went in. There’s no arguing we are in a horrible run of fixtures against the city clubs and we’ve also had our injury issues in that same time, but the performances have been worrying. The performances are only worrying if you dont put any context around them and only look at the balance sheet. Since the Dundee United game you highlighted we have played the following in the league...... Hearts (H) 0-3 - vibrant attacking performance, created a bucketload of chances and got picked off on the break. Hit the woodwork 3 times and Craig Gordon pulled off numerous saves. Should have won the game. Got mugged. Celtic (A) 1-2 - gave a good account of ourselves at a difficult venue against a very good Celtic side. Unlucky not to nick a point. Ross County (A) 0-5 - tight first half with little quality on show by either side. Dominated the 2nd half played some good football and scored 5. Hibs (A) 1-0 - tight game at another difficult venue against a side with far superior resources. Denied a stone wall penalty which VAR would have given and continued to threaten even at 1-0 and a man down. Rangers (H) 1-2 - Another tight game against opposition with far greater resources. Well in the game first half before we shot ourselves in the foot twice before regrouping and getting a goal back. Rangers hanging on at the end. Poor quality in final third prevents us ffom getting anything from the game. Aberdeen (H) 1-2 - Another tight game against opposition with far superior resources ( you might see a pattern here). Poorest first half performance out of all the above. Changes made at the break, dominate 2nd half, score a good goal then shoot ourselves in the foot again before continuing to press for an equaliser. Denied a stone wall penalty and VAR inexplicably fails to intervene. Im happy to accept our performance levels have dropped off in the last few games, but if you look at the opposition, our injuries and suspensions, there are more than enough mitigating factors. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 hours ago, MJC_mkII said: Can’t see anything other than another defeat. 4-1 home win and another dismal showing from us. Anddd always look on the briighhhhhht sideeee of life ..Di Di ..Di Di Di Di Di Di Come on. Keep the faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, grizzlyg said: Anddd always look on the briighhhhhht sideeee of life ..Di Di ..Di Di Di Di Di Di Come on. Keep the faith Only if you stick to telling jokes cause you can’t sing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Our league record at Tannadice doesn’t make for happy reading: P95 W18 L43 D34 GF95 GA159 An 19% win rate and a -64 goal difference! Ugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 hours ago, El Grew said: Our league record at Tannadice doesn’t make for happy reading: P95 W18 L43 D34 GF95 GA159 An 19% win rate and a -64 goal difference! Ugh! Stats, all irrelevant drivel the only one that matters is the final score at 5:45pm on Saturday telling us we scored more goals than Untd, coyw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie73 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Going to be a really tough game with confidence at an all time low, think we need a massive transfer window, CB, defo 1 Midfielder maybe two and 100 % two attacking options to gee up KVV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning by Name Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 16 hours ago, MJC_mkII said: Wouldn’t surprise me. Dundee United have been worse than us so far so why you can predict such a tanking is beyond reason. We lost 4-0 at home to Celtic, I believe United shipped 7 to them. 4-1 is nonsense! I am not saying we wont lose but come on lighten up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Stevie73 said: Going to be a really tough game with confidence at an all time low, think we need a massive transfer window, CB, defo 1 Midfielder maybe two and 100 % two attacking options to gee up KVV. Yes it'll be a tough game- aren't they all? Largely agree about what we need but I'd add another CB to your shopping list and possibly a winger also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Winning by Name said: Dundee United have been worse than us so far so why you can predict such a tanking is beyond reason. We lost 4-0 at home to Celtic, I believe United shipped 7 to them. 4-1 is nonsense! I am not saying we wont lose but come on lighten up. And as I said they also beat Aberdeen 4-0 at home whereas we just lost 1-2 to the Dons at home the other day. We might not lose 4-1 but I don’t see us doing anything other than losing on Saturday, especially if we are still minus our injuries which I believe we will be. At the end of the day a defeat is a defeat and it doesn’t matter if we lose 4-1 or 1-0, the end result is no points for us yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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