dennyc Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 9 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Not just that. It's at the stage where the club posts anything on twitter or Facebook and some fans are out shouting at everything. I'm not talking about folks right to have a say. It's just the constant creeping negativity that's getting on my every last nerve. And some of it is just over the top. I'm sick of it. It's been like this since folk wanted Alexander out. Kettlewell can't even give a media interview without being called out and personal comments made. Wellgirl, sadly it mirrors life. Those that shout loudest and the most often always appear to be the majority when in fact they are not. And what do they do when their obsession makes little sense? They shout even louder and more often. Keep fighting the good fight. Common sense usually wins through. We will have to disagree on Alexander though. His time really had come to an end. As it does for all Managers in the long run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, dennyc said: Wellgirl, sadly it mirrors life. Those that shout loudest and the most often always appear to be the majority when in fact they are not. And what do they do when their obsession makes little sense? They shout even louder and more often. Keep fighting the good fight. Common sense usually wins through. We will have to disagree on Alexander though. His time really had come to an end. As it does for all Managers in the long run. We've been on a downward trajectory since we got rid of Alexander in my view. Not least since we had to pay him off. Then Hammell too. I feel sorry for Kettlewell. I honestly do. Like. We were fifth in the table when Alexander left. To me that's worrying and look at how we've been doing since. It's ok to disagree. I just personally think that a lot of fans are shouting at Kettlewell when it's not necessarily him they are upset with. Like. Obika gave an interview today and as soon as it was put up you had folk going pish. Shite. And yeah that's how they feel. I've just never seen it this bad for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 10 minutes ago, wellgirl said: We've been on a downward trajectory since we got rid of Alexander in my view. Not least since we had to pay him off. Then Hammell too. I feel sorry for Kettlewell. I honestly do. Like. We were fifth in the table when Alexander left. To me that's worrying and look at how we've been doing since. I think Alexander had run his course, due in part to financial restrictions within the Club. I honestly do not think we would have been in a better position had he stayed or that he had any solutions. Also I think Kettlewell is more suited than either Alexander or Hammell to working within those financial limitations. In short, I don’t believe our on field issues are mostly down to whoever is Manager. I do respect your view though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, dennyc said: I think Alexander had run his course, due in part to financial restrictions within the Club. I honestly do not think we would have been in a better position had he stayed or that he had any solutions. Also I think Kettlewell is more suited to either Alexander or Hammell in working within those financial limitations. In short, I don’t believe our on field issues are mostly down to whoever is Manager. I do respect your view though. I like Kettlewell a lot. Just hope he keeps us up. I think the club made a huge mistake with the Hammell appointment. It was the sentimental choice and he was too inexperienced in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Kettlewell has a dressing room behind him..... Alexander certainly didn't, a very unlikeable character and old news....in SK we trust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, grizzlyg said: Kettlewell has a dressing room behind him..... Alexander certainly didn't, a very unlikeable character and old news....in SK we trust Just making the point that I think the club has been struggling since we got rid of Alexander. I'm very much behind Kettlewell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Alexander was absolutely done with us long before he eventually left. I’ve said this many times had we not snatched the late draw at Livingston and scraped top six and then somehow Europe then he would have been gone at the end of that season, perhaps before. And what keeps being overlooked is that HE wanted to go. It was him that approached Burrows to instigate the “mutual consent” after the Sligo debacle, not the other way around. He wasn’t sacked and he wasn’t “hounded out” he left because he wanted to go. And I’d have Stuart Kettlewell as manager over Alexander any day of the week. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 If it was a straight choice between Graham Alexander or Stuart Kettlewell definitely 💯 Kettlewell for me Appreciate people will have different views on this , we do have people in our fanbase who like to criticise everything, I am not on Twitter but see it on Facebook all the time even before a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 6 hours ago, MJC said: Alexander was absolutely done with us long before he eventually left. I’ve said this many times had we not snatched the late draw at Livingston and scraped top six and then somehow Europe then he would have been gone at the end of that season, perhaps before. And what keeps being overlooked is that HE wanted to go. It was him that approached Burrows to instigate the “mutual consent” after the Sligo debacle, not the other way around. He wasn’t sacked and he wasn’t “hounded out” he left because he wanted to go. And I’d have Stuart Kettlewell as manager over Alexander any day of the week. Not often I agree with what you say dude, but i'm with you 100% on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 12 hours ago, wellgirl said: Just making the point that I think the club has been struggling since we got rid of Alexander. I'm very much behind Kettlewell. To counter that, I would say that the club has been struggling because of Alexander's appointment and tenure. And, as much as I don't rate Kettlewell, I would rather have him than GA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 26 minutes ago, wellfan said: To counter that, I would say that the club has been struggling because of Alexander's appointment and tenure. And, as much as I don't rate Kettlewell, I would rather have him than GA. I made more than one point across several posts. I wasn't intending it to mean that I would rather have Alexander as manager right now than Kettlewell. When I said that we have been on a downward trajectory since he left I did make the point about having to pay off the remaining amount of time on his contract. I've been very vocally supportive of Kettlewell. Not just on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 13 hours ago, wellgirl said: We've been on a downward trajectory since we got rid of Alexander in my view. Not least since we had to pay him off. Then Hammell too. I feel sorry for Kettlewell. I honestly do. Like. We were fifth in the table when Alexander left. To me that's worrying and look at how we've been doing since. It's ok to disagree. I just personally think that a lot of fans are shouting at Kettlewell when it's not necessarily him they are upset with. Like. Obika gave an interview today and as soon as it was put up you had folk going pish. Shite. And yeah that's how they feel. I've just never seen it this bad for a long time. I take your point and in general feel some fans are never happy. Re Alexander tho, the Sligo games did it for me , terrible performances and a big missed opportunity too .. frustrating...I actually felt more for Steven hammel who never got the chance to work with the players he bought, but again timing played a part after the Raith cup tie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Great Balls of Shire said: I take your point and in general feel some fans are never happy. Re Alexander tho, the Sligo games did it for me , terrible performances and a big missed opportunity too .. frustrating...I actually felt more for Steven hammel who never got the chance to work with the players he bought, but again timing played a part after the Raith cup tie. That was the point I was trying to make. I'm not trying to suggest for one minute that fans aren't allowed opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 18 hours ago, dennyc said: Wellgirl, sadly it mirrors life. Those that shout loudest and the most often always appear to be the majority when in fact they are not. And what do they do when their obsession makes little sense? They shout even louder and more often. I think it's always worth remembering that Steelmen Online represents a fraction of the Motherwell support. There are, what, 150 regular posters? Is it even as many as that? Even if it was 400 or 500 it would still be a single digit percentage of the overall support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 21 hours ago, dennyc said: Wellgirl, sadly it mirrors life. Those that shout loudest and the most often always appear to be the majority when in fact they are not. And what do they do when their obsession makes little sense? They shout even louder and more often. Keep fighting the good fight. Common sense usually wins through. We will have to disagree on Alexander though. His time really had come to an end. As it does for all Managers in the long run. Empty vessels make the most noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodo Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 On 2/24/2024 at 12:19 AM, wellgirl said: Just making the point that I think the club has been struggling since we got rid of Alexander. I'm very much behind Kettlewell. The club did not get rid of Alexander he approached the board after one of the worst results in the clubs history and asked to be released . I think u should take a break from the forum as u seem to take everything personal 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robsterwood Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 The guy at at mirren is doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, robsterwood said: The guy at at mirren is doing well. I wouldn't want him back. He took Motherwell as far as he could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwell Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 Build the statue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestwickwell Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 Give him a 10 year contract 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 Told ye that 1yr extension was great....well done the board!! 😂😂 Seriously let's start cutting this guy some slack. He is learning all the time and maybe just maybe will get us to Top 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 20-year contract, with only 10 announced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 52 minutes ago, Tamwell said: Build the statue. I was just going to type that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 He’s succeeded where so many before him have failed in getting a league win v.Rangers. Butcher, McCall, McGhee, Brown all failed. Results like that are what makes all the shite ones feel worth it and are the type that live long in the memory. Well done Stuart Kettlewell and the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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