mio Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, wellfan said: Even as Kettlewell’s biggest critic, I don’t think that’s fair to say about him at the moment. The resignation narrative has been led by Caldwell, albeit echoing what Kettlewell told him, but I don’t think Kettlewell has had a fair chance to publicly say his piece as yet. He’s had almost a week to say something while the Motherwell support has been chastised by the media. That to me is someone who is enjoying us taking a kicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, wellfan said: Even as Kettlewell’s biggest critic, I don’t think that’s fair to say about him at the moment. The resignation narrative has been led by Caldwell, albeit echoing what Kettlewell told him, but I don’t think Kettlewell has had a fair chance to publicly say his piece as yet. Why should he say anything, hes painted by the media as the victim here. Anything he says will not improve on that position. I thought he would have a thicker skin than that but it was an easy way out for him. He obviously knew he was going up a deadend ,same as his shit run last year was comming with no idea how to get out of it on the park. Can’t wait to hear what Crags has to say about him n his shite tactics now hes away Crags can tell it like it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Weekly SK has held interviews with the club media and the press where he’s talked about many things but this week he’s been very quiet. I do think it would be helpful to hear from him but that doesn’t seem likely at the moment. Possibly he’s just getting his head around what’s happened, needs time to process things, has a bout of depression or is just sitting back watching it all with a smile on his face. We don’t know and hopefully it’s not depression that he’s suffering from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 He’s likely to be working out a settlement and keeping quiet . my view is his ego was taking a bit of a beating. The stats are clear , he did a very decent job point wise over his tenure but despite his best efforts and being 5th fans were vocal . he probably thought crikey if the fans aren’t with me now , what will it get like if we slump back to 9th . There’s not many jobs or sports where fans behave and can say what they do in the terraces . Can you imagine if he was a tennis player and being called out for being a f’ing clown it’s not getting worse per say but society is changing and what was previously acceptable no longer is. hes made his exit and will be back before long . Suspect his old club will snap him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 49 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said: Ah soon be Dr wellgirl phd well done you 👍 If only 🤣 - doing another BA because I'm getting it funded (Im really not academic enough to do a PhD ) but contemplating a Masters - going to take a year off when I finish and decide. Im just about to write part of my sociology essay on Motherwell fc - there will be wars if I don't get top marks. Thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 13 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: He’s likely to be working out a settlement and keeping quiet . my view is his ego was taking a bit of a beating. The stats are clear , he did a very decent job point wise over his tenure but despite his best efforts and being 5th fans were vocal . he probably thought crikey if the fans aren’t with me now , what will it get like if we slump back to 9th . There’s not many jobs or sports where fans behave and can say what they do in the terraces . Can you imagine if he was a tennis player and being called out for being a f’ing clown it’s not getting worse per say but society is changing and what was previously acceptable no longer is. hes made his exit and will be back before long . Suspect his old club will snap him up Do you think theres a vacancy for him there just now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Do you think theres a vacancy for him there just now? No , pure hypothesis on my part . I don’t think that’s why he left . but they are second bottom of the league and if this was to continue I could see them reaching out and trying to snap him up . Given he turned our fortunes around season 1 they must be at least thinking about it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 57 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: He’s likely to be working out a settlement and keeping quiet . my view is his ego was taking a bit of a beating. The stats are clear , he did a very decent job point wise over his tenure but despite his best efforts and being 5th fans were vocal . he probably thought crikey if the fans aren’t with me now , what will it get like if we slump back to 9th . There’s not many jobs or sports where fans behave and can say what they do in the terraces . Can you imagine if he was a tennis player and being called out for being a f’ing clown it’s not getting worse per say but society is changing and what was previously acceptable no longer is. hes made his exit and will be back before long . Suspect his old club will snap him up Working out a settlement ? he chucked it ! No settlement dur he walked away, thats my take on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, smiddy said: 2.30 will be good they are askin the pundits what they think, craggs will be good , he had all the stats on SK Last week It was going quite well until Billy Dodds continued to peddle he myth that Kettlewell resigned because of abuse aimed at his family. Derek Ferguson also seems to think it must have been abuse from well fans located in the main stand, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Neither statement challenged. At least the message that whatever it was must have been from a minority of fans (as absolutely no one knows what the abuse actually entailed) is finally being addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, smiddy said: Working out a settlement ? he chucked it ! No settlement dur he walked away, thats my take on it Exactly he deserves nothing but the way the club have acted the last few days I wouldn't be surprised if we have been daft enough and paid him his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Just now, Pepper said: It was going quite well until Billy Dodds continued to peddle he myth that Kettlewell resigned because of abuse aimed at his family. Derek Ferguson also seems to think it must have been abuse from well fans located in the main stand, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Neither statement challenged. At least the message that whatever it was must have been from a minority of fans (as absolutely no one knows what the abuse actually entailed) is finally being addressed. Craggs not on today but worth tuning inn early morra as he will be on, and last week he was quite vocal so i would imagine hees had 5 days to add to his info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, mfc said: Exactly he deserves nothing but the way the club have acted the last few days I wouldn't be surprised if we have been daft enough and paid him his contract. Then we will see it in the club accs, unless there accountant hides it under another outgoing time, will tell, but if they have then there will be questions to be asked, if your due nothing, then you get nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Pepper said: It was going quite well until Billy Dodds continued to peddle he myth that Kettlewell resigned because of abuse aimed at his family. Derek Ferguson also seems to think it must have been abuse from well fans located in the main stand, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Neither statement challenged. At least the message that whatever it was must have been from a minority of fans (as absolutely no one knows what the abuse actually entailed) is finally being addressed. Tam mentioned a very small minority, a " pocket" I think , he said, so quite specific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Now that we are 7th is it OK to say we are shite and SK was not the great young manager we've all been told. 😁 StJ beating St Mirren and doing their best to put the wind up us and the rest of the shite. UPDATE.. we are back up to 6th SKL was fab😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 35 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Now that we are 7th is it OK to say we are shite and SK was not the great young manager we've all been told. 😁 StJ beating St Mirren and doing their best to put the wind up us and the rest of the shite. UPDATE.. we are back up to 6th SKL was fab😁 Killie drawing or winning later on would make that into one hell of a tight league from 3rd to 11th. There's a 'manager of the month' award between Europe and a play off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, AllyMax said: Killie drawing or winning later on would make that into one hell of a tight league from 3rd to 11th. There's a 'manager of the month' award between Europe and a play off. I said for weeks I think we are one of the two fall guys this season and have seen absolutely nothing to make me change my mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: I said for weeks I think we are one of the two fall guys this season and have seen absolutely nothing to make me change my mind. Possibly, but no one else is consistent enough. Look at St Mirren today or Aberdeen's spectacular collapse, and Dundee's performance today. Everyone is capable of winning or losing against anyone anytime, outside the top 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, AllyMax said: Possibly, but no one else is consistent enough. Look at St Mirren today or Aberdeen's spectacular collapse, and Dundee's performance today. Everyone is capable of winning or losing against anyone anytime, outside the top 2. I only need to look at these teams when they play us and also watch a lot of the other teams live and I stand by my assertion. Watched the St Mirren v St Johnstone game and it was pish but both of them played more football in 45 mins that we do in two games. If we continue to play as we have my bet is safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 48 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: I only need to look at these teams when they play us and also watch a lot of the other teams live and I stand by my assertion. Watched the St Mirren v St Johnstone game and it was pish but both of them played more football in 45 mins that we do in two games. If we continue to play as we have my bet is safe. One year we will be het for the drop , hopefully all these new faces and injury clearing up can help us this time...Aberdeen in free fall too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, wellon said: One year we will be het for the drop , hopefully all these new faces and injury clearing up can help us this time...Aberdeen in free fall too? id be a bit more optimistic if I saw us addressing the worst part of the team - midfield - instead of bringing in an endless line of strikers. With a midfield so weak we will continue to ignore it and play hoofball, so most of these strikers are up against it from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 This Kilmarnock v Dundee Utd game would turn you to stone, so maybe there is hope for us. Campbell doing nowt so far to stand out from the pish on show.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 12 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: id be a bit more optimistic if I saw us addressing the worst part of the team - midfield - instead of bringing in an endless line of strikers. With a midfield so weak we will continue to ignore it and play hoofball, so most of these strikers are up against it from day one. I know what you're saying, but if we could get Nicholson, Slattery and Miller on park, I'm sure it'd look better but that looks a bit off again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 24 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: This Kilmarnock v Dundee Utd game would turn you to stone, so maybe there is hope for us. Campbell doing nowt so far to stand out from the pish on show.. Yes thought that midweek draw in Jan was dire but this Killie game sounds similar. Also st midden loosing to st Johnston gives us a bit of perspective. Not much between the pish teams. Fine margins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 For all the talk of our recent run definitely nowhere near as bad as Aberdeen at the minute To go from almost full points with the exception of one draw in November to going something like 14 league games without a win is quite crazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 46 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: This Kilmarnock v Dundee Utd game would turn you to stone, so maybe there is hope for us. Campbell doing nowt so far to stand out from the pish on show.. If Campbell was that good he wouldn't have been released past few clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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