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13 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said:

For all the talk of our recent run definitely nowhere near as bad as Aberdeen at the minute

To go from almost full points with the exception of one draw in November to going something like 14 league games without a win is quite crazy 

Like we were, have they been sussed out by the other teams after the first round of games.

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27 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Yes thought that midweek draw in Jan was dire but this Killie game sounds similar. Also st midden loosing to st Johnston gives us a bit of perspective. Not much between the pish teams. Fine margins. 

That's what I find so infuriating, everyone from 3rd down is pish and we wouldn't need that much of an improvement to challenge Dundee Utd but frankly I can't see where our improvement is coming from. Killie now 1-0 up and both these teams are garbage. 

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Just watching some videos of Aberdeen fans after todays game hurling some amount of abuse at Thelin who to his credit came over and applauded them.

Same circumstances as us different outcome.

Wonder what the media darlings will have to say about that?.

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1 minute ago, santheman said:

Just watching some videos of Aberdeen fans after todays game hurling some amount of abuse at Thelin who to his credit came over and applauded them.

Same circumstances as us different outcome.

Wonder what the media darlings will have to say about that?.

Not really sure tbh. He might be the next casualty if they keep on losing. They are fourth now so he's not under immediate pressure but if they keep losing he will be one way or another 

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42 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Not really sure tbh. He might be the next casualty if they keep on losing. They are fourth now so he's not under immediate pressure but if they keep losing he will be one way or another 

Seen someone couple of days back suggesting Stuart Kettlewell is the next Aberdeen manager. They did of course bring Alan Burrows name into it suggesting old pals etc 

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IMO Kettlewell has realised that after losing to St Johnstone for the second time he has a very small window to get out without his reputation taking a hit. Top six when he left but could have been bottom 6 before playing another game. If anybody’s saying he received more abuse than Rodgers, Lennon, Clement, Thelin or any other manager who’s struggling at points in their career I think they’re at it. What he’s done is free himself up at a time when other teams are going to be sacking managers and looking for replacements. I won’t be surprised if he pops up in another job in the next few weeks. Would be ironic if it was Aberdeen after the abuse Thelin was getting today.

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On 1/31/2025 at 5:22 PM, Onthefringes said:

Valid points with merit until your take on recruitment.

It’s simple logistics, the value just isn’t there despite some undoubted talent. Inflated transfer or costly development fees in a flawed system or priced out of securing pre-contracts - take your pick.

Where does the Stamatelopoulos acquisition or development of academy prospects fit into your thinking? 

An Australian who is never fit. Academy players,!!!!! Yes that's a real merry go round of talent, not.

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I’m afraid to say the latest soap opera being played out at FP has left me feeling quite indifferent towards the club I’ve supported all my life.

I feel as though I’m watching a re-run of something that has been acted out far too many times in the past 10 years. Since Stuart McCall left in 2014 we are now looking to appoint our 7th manager. That’s pretty close to a new manager every 1.5 years and too many of these have been shown to be wrong and in very quick time. For me this smacks of amateur hour by those “running” the club and recent events have given me no reason to believe they are competent enough to get it right this time around.

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17 hours ago, stv said:

Why should he say anything, hes painted by the media as the victim here. Anything he says will not improve on that position. I thought he would have a thicker skin than that but it was an easy way out for him.
He obviously knew he was going up a deadend ,same as his shit run last year was comming with no idea how to get out of it on the park. Can’t wait to hear what Crags has to say about him n his shite tactics now hes away Crags can tell it like it is.

He shouldn’t have to say anything, although these things always come out in the wash anyway. He’s currently the victim according the press etc, but I’m sure that may change in time.

My point was that the media has had a feeding frenzy on what Caldwell said via the resignation statement etc, and not because of anything Kettlewell has said directly on his resignation.

Kettlewell’s tactics were indeed shite and Crags has already said his piece on that.

The true victims here are our eyeballs. Not Kettlewell. 

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12 hours ago, santheman said:

Just watching some videos of Aberdeen fans after todays game hurling some amount of abuse at Thelin who to his credit came over and applauded them.

Same circumstances as us different outcome.

Wonder what the media darlings will have to say about that?.

I think most if not everyone knows that there is no way the media, especially BBC Scotland would allow Aberdeen fans to be tarred with the same brush based on the actions of a few individuals and a manager using that as a convenient excuse to quit to save his reputation like as what has happened with us. 

7 hours ago, ppower said:

Just watched Frails preview of the Celtic game on YouTube. All he was asked in the first 10 minutes was how toxic the fans are. He didn't exactly defend the fans. Pathetic.

The narrative has been set and this is going to run for a bit yet. People are gullible sheep who generally believe what they’re told if they’re told it enough times so the media know they can get traction with this and will keep pushing it until something else comes up.

I’m pretty disgusted with the club and some of the subservient pish they’ve come out with over the last week to be honest.

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57 minutes ago, MJC said:

I think most if not everyone knows that there is no way the media, especially BBC Scotland would allow Aberdeen fans to be tarred with the same brush based on the actions of a few individuals and a manager using that as a convenient excuse to quit to save his reputation like as what has happened with us. 

The narrative has been set and this is going to run for a bit yet. People are gullible sheep who generally believe what they’re told if they’re told it enough times so the media know they can get traction with this and will keep pushing it until something else comes up.

I’m pretty disgusted with the club and some of the subservient pish they’ve come out with over the last week to be honest.

If we win today, the Kettlewell debacle will very quickly be old news, but the former won’t happen. 

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7 minutes ago, wellfan said:

If we win today, the Kettlewell debacle will very quickly be old news, but the former won’t happen. 

It won’t happen of course but if we did then it would be one massive GIRFUY to Kettlewell and his pals in the media and all the more so against their favourite team. 

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8 hours ago, ppower said:

An Australian who is never fit. Academy players,!!!!! Yes that's a real merry go round of talent, not.

Eh? Read what was posted and not just look at the words?

Paying a relative hefty fee for the Australian and developing academy prospects goes against your “They have instigated a plan which is to bring in players from the depths of English football. Not once have they looked at the top 4 teams in the Scottish Championship.”

 

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Feeling similar: the failure of the club to defend the vast majority of decent of our support has left me wondering if they're the kind of people who should be running our club and I'm not sure either that they can make the correct decision on the next manager. The media pile-on should have been challenged from the start and their ignoring of the Thelin abuse  just shows what a hypocritical bunch our football churnalists are.

Ketttlewell's bacon roll and "holding court" style press conferences have certainly paid dividends.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Happy Dosser said:

Feeling similar: the failure of the club to defend the vast majority of decent of our support has left me wondering if they're the kind of people who should be running our club and I'm not sure either that they can make the correct decision on the next manager. The media pile-on should have been challenged from the start and their ignoring of the Thelin abuse  just shows what a hypocritical bunch our football churnalists are.

Ketttlewell's bacon roll and "holding court" style press conferences have certainly paid dividends.

 

The media pile on was caused by the club in the first place with their poorly worded statement last Monday which basically threw the entire fanbase under the bus. After that they couldn’t challenge anything with any credibility so the next best thing would be to either retract it or just keep quiet about it but sadly no, we had the WS, Caldwell, SO’D and now Frail fuelling the fire with more of the same and now here we are.

The Well Society’s input in particular was a fucking disgrace and it will be interesting to see if the Well Bois do anything today in terms of displays in support of Kettlewell.

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2 hours ago, MJC said:

I think most if not everyone knows that there is no way the media, especially BBC Scotland would allow Aberdeen fans to be tarred with the same brush based on the actions of a few individuals and a manager using that as a convenient excuse to quit to save his reputation like as what has happened with us. 

The narrative has been set and this is going to run for a bit yet. People are gullible sheep who generally believe what they’re told if they’re told it enough times so the media know they can get traction with this and will keep pushing it until something else comes up.

I’m pretty disgusted with the club and some of the subservient pish they’ve come out with over the last week to be honest.

But the Aberdeen boss hasn't resigned....if he did and cited " abuse" , I'm pretty sure it would be a big story 

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Just now, wellon said:

But the Aberdeen boss hasn't resigned....if he did and cited " abuse" , I'm pretty sure it would be a big story 

Except if he did resign and tried to pull the same stunt that Kettlewell has then firstly their club wouldn’t put out the statement that we put out and secondly the media certainly wouldn’t pile on them the way they have done with us. If anything he would be vilified for trying to deflect his failures onto the Aberdeen support.

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4 minutes ago, MJC said:

Except if he did resign and tried to pull the same stunt that Kettlewell has then firstly their club wouldn’t put out the statement that we put out and secondly the media certainly wouldn’t pile on them the way they have done with us. If anything he would be vilified for trying to deflect his failures onto the Aberdeen support.

Dont agree that Aberdeen get better treatment from media than us...we can get a bit paranoid re the Glasgow twins but not so much Aberdeen. 

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14 minutes ago, wellon said:

Dont agree that Aberdeen get better treatment from media than us...we can get a bit paranoid re the Glasgow twins but not so much Aberdeen. 

FFS I've now agreed with MJC three times in row, but his comment is about  Motherwell FC issuing a statement saying the fans hounding out the manager, giving the media the ecuse

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28 minutes ago, wellon said:

Dont agree that Aberdeen get better treatment from media than us...we can get a bit paranoid re the Glasgow twins but not so much Aberdeen. 

Have you never listened to BBC Scotland sportsound then? 

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