Stuart Kettlewell discussion thread

[wellgirl]

Just now, Spit_It_Out said:

I don't think he will lose his job even if we end up in a play off spot tbh.He has so many aces up his sleeve to fall back on saving us from the drop, Bair turn around,injuries,winning at Ibrox and getting us to a semi final.

But sometimes things run it's course no matter what's went on and it's starting to look like we need those fresh ideas pronto cause Kettlewell looks out of ideas and has been for a while.

None of that will really matter if we end up there - which I'm not sure we will. Yeah we do need fresh ideas - I'm just not sure sacking him at this point in the season (which some people clearly want) is the best idea 

[wellfan]

All those saying next week is massive etc are missing the point. Today was massive. The continual shrug of the shoulders and better-luck-next-time attitude is precisely why donkeys like Kettlewell continue to be safe in their jobs. 

[Well-Made]

Time for him to go.

He's on about injuries but even with 3 defenders out we still put out a back 5 that have had enough game time this season. Its not as if he needed to use youngsters to fill the void. 

The formation was still the same as most of his games in charge and this sitting back and allow teams to have possession is killing us. I can understand it if it's against the Glasgow pair but the rest of the teams in the league we shouldn't be allowing it.

So, none of the above was affected by the 9 players being out, we'd have still played the same way

I see he is after another striker (despite needing a replacement for McGinn or some steel in the midfield.) The issue doesn't lie with the strikers not getting gaols, it lies with them not getting the service to at least get attempts in to start with.

Its always the same excuses after the game but nothing changes.

So, yea time to go.

The question is who replaces him, on that I am still not sure but one thing I do know is, whoever it is, we don't offer them a new contract after 6 months just because they won a couple of games.

 

[Kmcalpin]

SK did himself no favours today. He failed to motivate the players, and set us up all wrong. Did we do any homework on StJohnstone at all? It didn"t seem like it. I'm sticking with him until next Saturday. Another loss though and that's it for me.

[wellgirl]

Im completely gutted that we lost today - just because I'm not sitting calling for Kettlewell to go doesn't mean that I'm not - and with respect to anyone with a different opinion - me typing my opinion on a Motherwell forum won't make one bit of difference as to whether he stays or goes - that's down to the board. 

BTW - if he does go. I hope the next manager does a better job or in two years time he'll be off too - however I'm sure said managers know that football is transitional and that's what they risk when they take the job 

[grizzlyg]

20 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

I don't think he will lose his job even if we end up in a play off spot tbh.He has so many aces up his sleeve to fall back on saving us from the drop, Bair turn around,injuries,winning at Ibrox and getting us to a semi final.

But sometimes things run it's course no matter what's went on and it's starting to look like we need those fresh ideas pronto cause Kettlewell looks out of ideas and has been for a while.

He can't keep living off the " I signed bair and won at ibrox" as a reason to stick with him.   After previous away games and huge support a reaction was expected today and it wasn't.

But as I also said....the players need a look at themselves 

[wellgirl]

4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

He can't keep living off the " I signed bair and won at ibrox" as a reason to stick with him.   After previous away games and huge support a reaction was expected today and it wasn't.

But as I also said....the players need a look at themselves 

With respect why would him signing Bair - who has moved on keep him at Motherwell if he's not producing the goods. I completely agree that most of the players need to have a look at themselves too 

[Villageman]

4 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

With respect why would him signing Bair - who has moved on keep him at Motherwell if he's not producing the goods. 

because these are a few of the positives, He ignores the negatives.

Reminds me of the persons I dislike most of my life saying goes "Talks a good game"

[Spit_It_Out]

7 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

He can't keep living off the " I signed bair and won at ibrox" as a reason to stick with him.   After previous away games and huge support a reaction was expected today and it wasn't.

But as I also said....the players need a look at themselves 

Oh I totally agree with you sometimes things run it's course and that's where I am with Kettlewell.

It just the same stuff over and over nothing I have seen recently tells me anything other it's going to continue to be so poor.

 

[grizzlyg]

5 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

Oh I totally agree with you sometimes things run it's course and that's where I am with Kettlewell.

It just the same stuff over and over nothing I have seen recently tells me anything other it's going to continue to be so poor.

 

Cheers pal,  yup I have backed him loads but enough is enough 

He wouldn't be out a job for long as his media pals would see him ok

[grizzlyg]

9 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

 

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[wellgirl]

10 minutes ago, Villageman said:

because these are a few of the positives, He ignores the negatives.

Reminds me of the persons I dislike most of my life saying goes "Talks a good game"

I was asking someone why they thought him having signed Bair who has moved on would keep him in a job if we were terrible. I don't see Kettlewell talking about Bair right now 

[Benson]

As pissed of as everyone else,but the manager ain't going anywhere and imo shouldn't be,financially and at this time of season should be enough for him to continue,his remit every season is to keep us in the league and he is the process of doing even although things can change very quickly,it's stick or twist time with the former the safest option,hopefully we are still spfl end of season and that's when Kettlewell or the board decide the future.

[grizzlyg]

11 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

I was asking someone why they thought him having signed Bair who has moved on would keep him in a job if we were terrible. I don't see Kettlewell talking about Bair right now 

I said that and I just mean that if under pressure Kettlewell will throw that fact in.  Yes it was a stroke of genius but shouldn't guarantee his job, he needs to turn this round bit I don't have faith in him , but that's just my opinion 

[smiddy]

🤣🤣🤣who wouldv thought 

YODO & STEELBOY both right about SK 

and still in the naughy corner 

[wellgirl]

18 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

I said that and I just mean that if under pressure Kettlewell will throw that fact in.  Yes it was a stroke of genius but shouldn't guarantee his job, he needs to turn this round bit I don't have faith in him , but that's just my opinion 

Him signing Bair won't guarantee his job - Bair is gone. But I think people need to be realistic. Do folk think we are going to sack a manager at this stage in the season when we are fifth. Irrespective of how badly we are playing just now 

[grizzlyg]

3 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Him signing Bair won't guarantee his job - Bair is gone. But I think people need to be realistic. Do folk think we are going to sack a manager at this stage in the season when we are fifth. Irrespective of how badly we are playing just now 

No. He is going nowhere but he is losing support in each passing week.  I was a fan and had backed him loads but not anymore.  Also his attitude for me has also  changed, is everyone's fault bar his and loves being darling of the media.   The recent constant moaning at refs also irritating,   yes we have had lots of horrendous decisions but so do other teams 

[wellgirl]

2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

No. He is going nowhere but he is losing support in each passing week.  I was a fan and had backed him loads but not anymore.  Also his attitude for me has also  changed, is everyone's fault bar his and loves being darling of the media.   The recent constant moaning at refs also irritating,   yes we have had lots of horrendous decisions but so do other teams 

With respect. I disagree. He's got every right to call refs out for bad decisions. And I don't see him as being a darling of the media either. He gets criticism all over social media. I do hope he turns it around but if not I pity the next person who takes the job - he'll get the same treatment in time 

[grizzlyg]

5 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

With respect. I disagree. He's got every right to call refs out for bad decisions. And I don't see him as being a darling of the media either. He gets criticism all over social media. I do hope he turns it around but if not I pity the next person who takes the job - he'll get the same treatment in time 

Not from me, I always give every manager my backing but if it ain't working I will be honest.   I certainly like Kettlewell a lot more than Alexander who was just a horrible character in my opinion and treated some players terribly

[wellgirl]

1 minute ago, grizzlyg said:

Not from me, I always give every manager my backing but if it ain't working I will be honest.   I certainly like Kettlewell a lot more than Alexander who was just a horrible character in my opinion and treated some players terribly

Not from me either. I just think Kettlewell doesn't deserve to be chased out at the moment 

[grizzlyg]

2 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Not from me either. I just think Kettlewell doesn't deserve to be chased out at the moment 

A defeat next week certainly won't help his case

[Kmcalpin]

1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

But as I also said....the players need a look at themselves 

First signs today that he's starting to lose the dressing room. Apparently Casey told him a few home truths at half time.

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[wellgirl]

Just now, Kmcalpin said:

First signs today that he's starting to lose the dressing room. Apparently Casey told him a few home truths at half time.

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I think Casey should pipe down tbh. Particularly given that he took long enough to decide to sign on with us again. If you have issues with your manager - keep it private 

[wellfan]

7 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

First signs today that he's starting to lose the dressing room. Apparently Casey told him a few home truths at half time.

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Good. Kettlewell is asking them to flog the same dead horse every week, which will only reduce the players’ stock and rightly make them angry. 

[Spiderpig]

9 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Not from me either. I just think Kettlewell doesn't deserve to be chased out at the moment 

I thought that as well, and cut him some slack re injuries etc but not any more. We have no shape, no discernable style of play, just players booting the ball long and hoping something will happen, but it never does. For me SK has run his race, and it's time for him to go, I know it won't happen the board and the WS need to grow a set 1st but we will be bottom 6 soon, can't see us getting relegated but that's about all, even avoiding the playoff spot is not guaranteed.