wellgirl Posted Friday at 08:15 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:15 PM For me there's a huge difference between fans who are genuinely concerned about the direction Kettlewell is taking the club in and people who dig him out for anything and everything and name call him to boot. Some fans have a personal issue with him - that's not on himĀ I pay my money as well - I don't sit calling him names or looking for anything to call him out overĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Friday at 08:16 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:16 PM 1 minute ago, dennyc said: I think he was still reeling from the fan reaction at Perth when he sat for that interview.. You could see right away on Saturday that he was shaken. I agree he has always spoken positively about the fans and I suspect if he had his time again he would have phrased some of his answers differently. Just my take on it Yeah. You're probably rightĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Friday at 08:17 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:17 PM 4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: We will disagree but he could have answered them a lot better. Think he forgets 1700 fans paid a lot of money in mid January to witness that performance.Ā They had a right to be angry. 3 pts tomorrow though would be magic Im not disagreeing that the fans didn't have the right to be angry. Not at allĀ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted Friday at 08:54 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:54 PM Thereās plenty fans may want to critique about Kettlewell ā his tactics, his signings, his approach to matches ā and thatās entirely fair. Everyoneās entitled to their own opinion. However, to claim he has no respect for the supporters feels quite off the mark. Heās done, and continues to do, a great deal for the fanbase. Whether itās engaging with the Society, collaborating with various supportersā group, or taking the time to accommodate requests that most would understandably pass on, especially given the pressures of his role, his commitment is evident. To be clear, Iām not suggesting that people shouldnāt challenge his decisions as a manager. But when it comes to his regard for the fans, I donāt believe thatās something we can fairly call into question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Friday at 08:57 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 08:57 PM 1 minute ago, David said: Thereās plenty fans may want to critique about Kettlewell ā his tactics, his signings, his approach to matches ā and thatās entirely fair. Everyoneās entitled to their own opinion. However, to claim he has no respect for the supporters feels quite off the mark. Heās done, and continues to do, a great deal for the fanbase. Whether itās engaging with the Society, collaborating with various supportersā group, or taking the time to accommodate requests that most would understandably pass on, especially given the pressures of his role, his commitment is evident. To be clear, Iām not suggesting that people shouldnāt challenge his decisions as a manager. But when it comes to his regard for the fans, I donāt believe thatās something we can fairly call into question. I agree. And I personally think when folk start criticising him - it gathers momentum. Someone says something critical and other people agree and before you know it - people are really down on him. He's not above criticism but I think some of it is over the top and completely unnecessaryĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted Friday at 09:04 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:04 PM 1 hour ago, wellfan said: Kettlewellās interviews this week make it clear that itāll be more of the same from him. To change it up would suggest that heās listened to the fans who he clearly indicated he has zero respect for, so that isnāt happening. And with that, thereās no way I am going tomorrow, and it seems Iām not alone in that choice.Ā You need to watch what u say wellfan they will be on you you know who š«£ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted Friday at 09:13 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 09:13 PM 1 hour ago, wellgirl said: Not directing this to anyone in particular. But if Kettlewell really has zero respect for the fans why is he on video on several away games this season telling the support that they are brilliant. Why would a manager do that if they didn't care about the fan base? Several times this season he has gone over to the fans and called them brilliant and now he doesn't care about us?Ā And folk on here are completely entitled to their opinion of him - but in some peoples eyes nothing he does is right anyway. And if that is some peoples view - we could be top of the league and it wouldn't be enoughĀ Ā Ā Because most managers i ever came accross are not even 2 faced there 10 faced anybody that played the game will no that as FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted Friday at 10:05 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:05 PM 59 minutes ago, smiddy said: You need to watch what u say wellfan they will be on you you know who š«£ Two of them are already onto me, but thatās nothing new. Weāll all revisit this thread at 5pm tomorrow.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted Friday at 10:30 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:30 PM 21 minutes ago, wellfan said: Two of them are already onto me, but thatās nothing new. Weāll all revisit this thread at 5pm tomorrow.Ā Win lose or draw av watched enough keek 90 mins this season to know that the 3 mins on sportscene morra nite will do meĀ but we can also blame the small away support on the weather š¦šØ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted Friday at 10:45 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:45 PM 14 minutes ago, smiddy said: Win lose or draw av watched enough keek 90 mins this season to know that the 3 mins on sportscene morra nite will do meĀ but we can also blame the small away support on the weather š¦šØ and console ourselves we are now 7th and 6 points better off than last season...š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Friday at 10:48 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:48 PM 1 hour ago, smiddy said: You need to watch what u say wellfan they will be on you you know who š«£ I've said multiple times on here that no ones point of view re Kettlewell needs to align with mine. If people who don't like Kettlewell are free to express their opinions - I'll continue to express mine.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted Friday at 10:59 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:59 PM 10 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I've said multiple times on here that no ones point of view re Kettlewell needs to align with mine. If people who don't like Kettlewell are free to express their opinions - I'll continue to express mine.Ā You got a complex ?? didnt see your name mentioned anywhereĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Friday at 11:02 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:02 PM 3 minutes ago, smiddy said: You got a complex ?? didnt see your name mentioned anywhereĀ I think it's quite obvious what you were suggesting. No I don't have a complex but I'm putting you on ignore. I really can't be bothered - if you have an issue with people who do like Kettlewell - that's not my problem - you didn't mention anyone's name. Maybe you should have if you want to dig folk out.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted Friday at 11:07 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:07 PM 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: I think it's quite obvious what you were suggesting. No I don't have a complex but I'm putting you on ignore. I really can't be bothered - if you have an issue with people who do like Kettlewell - that's not my problem - you didn't mention anyone's name. Maybe you should have if you want to dig folk out.Ā Quite obvious ??? Ā Yes that your name wasnt mentionedĀ no youv deffo got a complex theres 10 others on here it couldv beenĀ Yes please put me on ignore but i will still read your posts to see who you latch onto next timeĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Friday at 11:10 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:10 PM 2 hours ago, David said: Thereās plenty fans may want to critique about Kettlewell ā his tactics, his signings, his approach to matches ā and thatās entirely fair. Everyoneās entitled to their own opinion. However, to claim he has no respect for the supporters feels quite off the mark. Heās done, and continues to do, a great deal for the fanbase. Whether itās engaging with the Society, collaborating with various supportersā group, or taking the time to accommodate requests that most would understandably pass on, especially given the pressures of his role, his commitment is evident. To be clear, Iām not suggesting that people shouldnāt challenge his decisions as a manager. But when it comes to his regard for the fans, I donāt believe thatās something we can fairly call into question. So we should ignore his remarks about "so called experts"? If he isnt talking about us, who is he talking about? Im all for cutting him slack on performances, injuries etc, but those comments go too far for me...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Friday at 11:14 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:14 PM 2 minutes ago, smiddy said: Quite obvious ??? Ā Yes that your name wasnt mentionedĀ no youv deffo got a complex theres 10 others on here it couldv beenĀ Yes please put me on ignore but i will still read your posts to see who you latch onto next timeĀ You're free to read my posts if you want - have a nice night.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Friday at 11:21 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:21 PM 4 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: So we should ignore his remarks about "so called experts"? If he isnt talking about us, who is he talking about? Im all for cutting him slack on performances, injuries etc, but those comments go too far for me...... If his comments were simply clumsily phrased and he wasn't referring to the fans then all he has to do is to clarify what he meant. Hopefully someone at the club has had a tactful word in his ear.Ā No manager can afford to alienate fans unnecessarily.Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Friday at 11:25 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:25 PM 1 minute ago, Kmcalpin said: If his comments were simply clumsily phrased and he wasn't referring to the fans then all he has to do is to clarify what he meant. Hopefully someone at the club has had a tactful word in his ear.Ā No manager can afford to alienate fans unnecessarily.Ā Ā Ā Exactly. Anyway. Actions speak louder than words. I will watch with interest as to how we line up tomorrow, the tactics we employ, and obviously how the game pans out. I hope for a positive result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 15 hours ago, wellgirl said: Ā And folk on here are completely entitled to their opinion of him - but in some peoples eyes nothing he does is right anyway. Ā Totally agree with that but surely you have enough self awareness to flip that statement and see that you very much come across as someone who cant see him doing anything wrong? - which incidentally is no better or worse than his staunchest critics. This is a fans discussion board.Ā Everyones opinion is valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Big Stall said: Totally agree with that but surely you have enough self awareness to flip that statement and see that you very much come across as someone who cant see him doing anything wrong? - which incidentally is no better or worse than his staunchest critics. This is a fans discussion board.Ā Everyones opinion is valid. I've never said that I think he's never made a mistake - I've also said on more than one occasion that I completely understand that some people are very unhappy just now. They have the right to express that - and some people have - on and offline.Ā People have the right to be angry. I wasn't at the game last week but if people are unhappy and don't want to go today - I get it.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago Well Mr Kettlewell, youāve put a target on your back from your condescending remarks midweek. A very dangerous decision to antagonise fans.Ā A win and only a win will do for me to help ease some tensions between him and the fans.Ā cmon the āWell Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago That interview on radio scotland just now a shambles..... i'll do what i always do which is work a rediculous number of hours a week for this club.... Wee violin stuart. Lots of us work tons of hours. We had a bad performance last week & we will try to rectify it.... Good but the issue is not 1 bad performance, its the volume of them this season. And how many times have we had to sit and listen to you say that exact same thing but yet you keep sending us out the same way He's clearly feeling the pressure here. Wouldnt surprise me if the players have been letting him know its not working 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couttsy Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, Big Stall said: That interview on radio scotland just now a shambles..... i'll do what i always do which is work a rediculous number of hours a week for this club.... Wee violin stuart. Lots of us work tons of hours. We had a bad performance last week & we will try to rectify it.... Good but the issue is not 1 bad performance, its the volume of them this season. And how many times have we had to sit and listen to you say that exact same thing but yet you keep sending us out the same way He's clearly feeling the pressure here. Wouldnt surprise me if the players have been letting him know its not working Just heard it myself. Not really in the Kettlewell in or Kettlewell out squad, but unbelievable this is our 5th away game in 23 days, so Ā£125 ish per adult plus travel, food, etc, and our manager has nothing to say to the fans. Unbelievableā¦ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Big Stall said: That interview on radio scotland just now a shambles..... i'll do what i always do which is work a rediculous number of hours a week for this club.... Wee violin stuart. Lots of us work tons of hours. We had a bad performance last week & we will try to rectify it.... Good but the issue is not 1 bad performance, its the volume of them this season. And how many times have we had to sit and listen to you say that exact same thing but yet you keep sending us out the same way He's clearly feeling the pressure here. Wouldnt surprise me if the players have been letting him know its not working 7 minutes ago, couttsy said: Just heard it myself. Not really in the Kettlewell in or Kettlewell out squad, but unbelievable this is our 5th away game in 23 days, so Ā£125 ish per adult plus travel, food, etc, and our manager has nothing to say to the fans. Unbelievableā¦ As a fan owned club, he really needs to do better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago Time up. Zero lessons learnt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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