Mootherwell86 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 SOD is ‘fair game’ because he’s been poor for 4 seasons. I can name half a dozen errors leading to goals just this season. If he wanted to keep his manager in a comfortable position then he should’ve performed on the pitch for him. Our full fanbase is not ‘fair game’ because quite clearly it was not the vast majority of fans that abused Stuart Kettlewell. There is no circumstance in which any current player or member of staff should be taking aim at fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Caldwell has managed this appallingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, Mootherwell86 said: SOD is ‘fair game’ because he’s been poor for 4 seasons. I can name half a dozen errors leading to goals just this season. If he wanted to keep his manager in a comfortable position then he should’ve performed on the pitch for him. Our full fanbase is not ‘fair game’ because quite clearly it was not the vast majority of fans that abused Stuart Kettlewell. There is no circumstance in which any current player or member of staff should be taking aim at fans. No he's not fair game. He's an easy target. There's a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootherwell86 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: No he's not fair game. He's an easy target. There's a difference You don’t need to reply to every single post that you don’t agree with 👍🏼 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, Big Wispy Flossy said: Caldwell has managed this appallingly My last word on this topic before moving on. He certainly seems to have managed this episode poorly, although we don't know what took place behind closed doors. He's now made a few faux pas including approving the press statement and banning Under 14s from attending games alone. We'll cut him some slack though as he's reasonably new and still settling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 14 minutes ago, Mootherwell86 said: You don’t need to reply to every single post that you don’t agree with 👍🏼 That's right - but I have the right to. Same as other people have the right to disagree with my posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 23 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: My last word on this topic before moving on. He certainly seems to have managed this episode poorly, although we don't know what took place behind closed doors. He's now made a few faux pas including approving the press statement and banning Under 14s from attending games alone. We'll cut him some slack though as he's reasonably new and still settling in. Right now I don't feel like cutting him any slack. He had the right to support Stuart - the issue for me is this has been directed at all of us. And that includes the well society email reminding us of how we should behave. Patronising tosh in my view The under 14s thing was a safeguarding issue whether people agree or not This is just throwing supporters who didn't abuse the manager under the bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 So odonnell remembers robinson getting abuse at games,well according to one of the better poster over on p&b(crazylegsjoe) odonnell only ever played under robinson behind closed doors during covid,if that's true then it's laughable yet shocking for a senior player to come out with rubbish like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, mfc said: So odonnell remembers robinson getting abuse at games,well according to one of the better poster over on p&b(crazylegsjoe) odonnell only ever played under robinson behind closed doors during covid,if that's true then it's laughable yet shocking for a senior player to come out with rubbish like that. My take on this was SOD was sent out to speak today by the club . He’s very well spoken and a decent ambassador - pretty sure the club sent him out with a message to back up the official MFC message . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, wellsince75 said: My take on this was SOD was sent out to speak today by the club . He’s very well spoken and a decent ambassador - pretty sure the club sent him out with a message to back up the official MFC message . If it's true that odonnell only ever played under robinson when there was no crowd,then he's straight up lied about hearing abuse towards robinson.today should have been about damage limitation and not more drivel that's making the fans out to be monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 42 minutes ago, Mootherwell86 said: There is no circumstance in which any current player or member of staff should be taking aim at fans. Theoretically speaking what if one of our players mate plays for an opposing team and their kid has cancer, a small minority of our fans are being abusive to him regarding this and after the game our player says publicly that it’s out of order and disgusting - is that still a no from you? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootherwell86 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: Theoretically speaking what if one of our players mate plays for an opposing team and their kid has cancer, a small minority of our fans are being abusive to him regarding this and after the game our player says publicly that it’s out of order and disgusting - is that still a no from you? Jesus Fucking Christ. Congratulations, despite some tough competition, you’ve won fuckwit of the day 👍🏼 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 I went and had a little look at the Dundee forum. Mainly because at that club despite being below us I believe they are content with the manager and the style of play. I was fascinated with their take on Kettlewell - here are a few snippets "Kettlewell resigns. A shitebag and charlatan of the highest order. A Motherwell team on the slide, Celtic up next and the injury and potential impeding transfer of Lennon Miller and he's chucked it. Comes out blaming Well fans for the 'abuse' he's received. One of the west coast motley crew. Kenny McIntyre and co will peddle the 'harsh treatment' and 'they were 5th in the league' line until he gets his next gig returning to County or at Partick or such like" "Shame, I always looked forward to his meltdowns when we beat them. They'll probably get someone decent now" "Kenny McIntyre has a fu*king cheek if he claims harsh treatment for another manager. On Saturday he must have asked Billy Dodds at Pittodrie near into double figures if the fans were booing and starting to turn on Aberdeen. He was fu*king reveling in it and hoping Dodds would say the fans were turning on them" "Kettlewell was doing decently on paper but they've been utterly tragic to watch for the majority of his spell. They just sit off teams and don't put any pressure on and literally just hang on for a draw and hope for a bit of magic or inspiration. He's thrown players under the bus, he regularly throws the fans under the bus and generally does anything to ensure he comes out looking squeaky clean. A manager that cares more about his own image than developing the club he's at. Hope that's him done with management" It's not just our own fans that are saying what some of us are saying to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Wonder if any of those posters are looking for a transfer, they seem to know more than a few on here 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Just now, Mootherwell86 said: Jesus Fucking Christ. You’re the one saying staff shouldn’t take aim at fans no matter what they say. I personally believe that’s out of order so wanted to know if you meant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootherwell86 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: You’re the one saying staff shouldn’t take aim at fans no matter what they say. I personally believe that’s out of order so wanted to know if you meant it. Are you actually alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Just now, Mootherwell86 said: Are you actually alright? No, had a shit day and your stupid statement topped it off so I want to know was it a serious statement or just badly worded - but thanks for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Clubs will be lining up for SK with his record, so he shouldn't be out of work for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, wellgirl said: I think SOD is an easy target for some fans and has been for quite some time now But hes been shite for some time now and making stupid basic mistakes. That makes him an easy target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootherwell86 Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: No, had a shit day and your stupid statement topped it off so I want to know was it a serious statement or just badly worded - but thanks for asking. I was being serious. In fact, in the unlikely event that it transpires that a fellow dosser was behind 9/11 and Andy Halliday feels he should condemn it. Then I will thoroughly support my fellow dosser and act to ostracise Mr Halliday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 16 minutes ago, wunderwell said: I went and had a little look at the Dundee forum. Mainly because at that club despite being below us I believe they are content with the manager and the style of play. I was fascinated with their take on Kettlewell - here are a few snippets "Kettlewell resigns. A shitebag and charlatan of the highest order. A Motherwell team on the slide, Celtic up next and the injury and potential impeding transfer of Lennon Miller and he's chucked it. Comes out blaming Well fans for the 'abuse' he's received. One of the west coast motley crew. Kenny McIntyre and co will peddle the 'harsh treatment' and 'they were 5th in the league' line until he gets his next gig returning to County or at Partick or such like" "Shame, I always looked forward to his meltdowns when we beat them. They'll probably get someone decent now" "Kenny McIntyre has a fu*king cheek if he claims harsh treatment for another manager. On Saturday he must have asked Billy Dodds at Pittodrie near into double figures if the fans were booing and starting to turn on Aberdeen. He was fu*king reveling in it and hoping Dodds would say the fans were turning on them" "Kettlewell was doing decently on paper but they've been utterly tragic to watch for the majority of his spell. They just sit off teams and don't put any pressure on and literally just hang on for a draw and hope for a bit of magic or inspiration. He's thrown players under the bus, he regularly throws the fans under the bus and generally does anything to ensure he comes out looking squeaky clean. A manager that cares more about his own image than developing the club he's at. Hope that's him done with management" It's not just our own fans that are saying what some of us are saying to. I personally think that's a tad harsh on their part. I've never felt that he regularly threw us under the bus. Like I said the other day there are videos of him going over to the support at the end of games referring to us as ****ing brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, stv said: But hes been shite for some time now and making stupid basic mistakes. That makes him an easy target. But he's not the only one - and he gets more abuse than most. I also don't think he's been shite for some time. He was playing well till the last injury. Does Davor get the abuse SOD gets for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 26 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: Theoretically speaking what if one of our players mate plays for an opposing team and their kid has cancer, a small minority of our fans are being abusive to him regarding this and after the game our player says publicly that it’s out of order and disgusting - is that still a no from you? What a stupid fkn thing to say. I take it yer takin the piss. You must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Halliday has also spoken to the press saying he's gutted that Kettlewell has gone. Perhaps the rumours of Kettlewell losing the dressing room were exactly that. He said the mood at training was very flat today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 8 hours ago, wellgirl said: Halliday has also spoken to the press saying he's gutted that Kettlewell has gone. Perhaps the rumours of Kettlewell losing the dressing room were exactly that. He said the mood at training was very flat today. He’s hardly going to come out and celebrate 🤨. They all say that when a manager goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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