Stuart Kettlewell discussion thread

[Throughthelaces]

7 minutes ago, Jonesy said:

That's the exact reason the club know they can come out with the sort of shit they have this week and keep treating fans like shit in general - they know we'll keep piling our money in through the turnstiles regardless. The club won't give a fuck about your Well Society payment so long as you still turn up on a Saturday and hand over your cash. There's only 1 way to break that cycle.

 

I completely missed them making an argument about the 3rd kit.

Heard from someone who's in the know. But they decided they weren't happy because not consulted and it wasn't a profit share for a charity. 

[cambo97]

15 hours ago, MJC said:

All in all this has been a rotten week for us and no one comes out of it looking good.

Not the club, not the support, not the WS and despite his army of chums in the media neither does Stuart Kettlewell in my opinion. He has ‘played politics’ and manipulated the situation to try and maintain his personal reputation and unfortunately the club and WS have played right into his hands.
 

That is not excusing any personal abuse that was directed his way, or that towards any of his family and I think that there probably was some uncalled for and unacceptable stuff said. But I do not believe for one minute that that is the main reason that he left

That's the only bit I don't agree with; SK hasn't come out well with the MFC support but I suspect outside our "bubble" he's not lost anything.

[0Neils40yarder]

On 1/30/2025 at 11:03 PM, 0Neils40yarder said:

In a world where, no amount, level or type, of verbal abuse is allowed...just how are the modern fitba fans meant to show their unhappiness at whatever drivel it is that's been served up?

 

This is a semi-serious question...yes, we are there to support but at what stage are we allowed to be unhappy and what form should that unhappiness be shown?

I asked this a couple of days ago now and had no response...how does the modern-day football fan get his/her point across when they're not enjoying what they're watching? 

Shout abuse and boo?

Stop going altogether?

Sit on their hands and act like they don't care?

Take to social media and criticise?

 

I've read loads of folk saying that verbal abuse isn't on...and I get that, but to me there is a huge difference between a shout like 'this is fucking rotten Kettlewell' to something like 'I hope you die in your sleep Brendan Rodgers'

 

Genuinely, is the support just meant to wring their hands and mutter under their breath when the 'entertainment' is unbelievably honking?

[MJC]

23 minutes ago, cambo97 said:

That's the only bit I don't agree with; SK hasn't come out well with the MFC support but I suspect outside our "bubble" he's not lost anything.

Completely agree but I was meaning from a Motherwell perspective he doesn’t come out well. Obviously on a wider scale he’s played his part well and has his pals in the press dancing to his tune and he will no doubt get a seat on the Sportscene couch for a bit until his next manager/coaching gig. 

[smiddy]

Tam cowan just came out on the side of the fans on bbc radio scotland saying maybe SK is the one to come out n clarify the situation so as NOT to include ALL fans 

[FirParkCornerExile]

1 minute ago, smiddy said:

Tam cowan just came out on the side of the fans on bbc radio scotland saying maybe SK is the one to come out n clarify the situation so as NOT to include ALL fans 

I thought his resume /analysis was spot on and long overdue. 

[smiddy]

5 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I thought his resume /analysis was spot on and long overdue. 

Deffo. Hees kind of left the ball in SKs court to say his bit 

[smiddy]

And now calling him out again 👍👍

[SteelmaninOZ]

19 hours ago, wellgirl said:

I've been called far worse online - as for my schooling - I'm not doing too bad for a working class lassie who is on degree number 4. 

Ah soon be Dr wellgirl phd well done you 👍

[mio]

5 minutes ago, smiddy said:

Deffo. Hees kind of left the ball in SKs court to say his bit 

I’m not the biggest Tam Cowan fan but he’s said everything correctly here, I agree with him completely. 
I like SK and supported the guy but he’s went down in my estimations, it seems like he’s went in a big huff and compares working really hard to being an incredible manager.
I think he’s left the club in a really disrespectful way. Say what you want about Alexander but he slipped off without chastising our whole support….. when he got 100 times the stick SK ever got.

[smiddy]

1 minute ago, mio said:

I’m not the biggest Tam Cowan fan but he’s said everything correctly here, I agree with him completely. 
I like SK and supported the guy but he’s went down in my estimations, it seems like he’s went in a big huff and compares working really hard to being an incredible manager.
I think he’s left the club in a really disrespectful way. Say what you want about Alexander but he slipped off without chastising our whole support….. when he got 100 times the stick SK ever got.

2.30 will be good they are askin the pundits what they think,

craggs will be good , he had all the stats on SK Last week 

[wellfan]

9 minutes ago, mio said:

I’m not the biggest Tam Cowan fan but he’s said everything correctly here, I agree with him completely. 
I like SK and supported the guy but he’s went down in my estimations, it seems like he’s went in a big huff and compares working really hard to being an incredible manager.
I think he’s left the club in a really disrespectful way. Say what you want about Alexander but he slipped off without chastising our whole support….. when he got 100 times the stick SK ever got.

Even as Kettlewell’s biggest critic, I don’t think that’s fair to say about him at the moment. The resignation narrative has been led by Caldwell, albeit echoing what Kettlewell told him, but I don’t think Kettlewell has had a fair chance to publicly say his piece as yet. 

[mio]

3 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Even as Kettlewell’s biggest critic, I don’t think that’s fair to say about him at the moment. The resignation narrative has been led by Caldwell, albeit echoing what Kettlewell told him, but I don’t think Kettlewell has had a fair chance to publicly say his piece as yet. 

He’s had almost a week to say something while the Motherwell support has been chastised by the media. That to me is someone who is enjoying us taking a kicking.

[stv]

7 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Even as Kettlewell’s biggest critic, I don’t think that’s fair to say about him at the moment. The resignation narrative has been led by Caldwell, albeit echoing what Kettlewell told him, but I don’t think Kettlewell has had a fair chance to publicly say his piece as yet. 

Why should he say anything, hes painted by the media as the victim here. Anything he says will not improve on that position. I thought he would have a thicker skin than that but it was an easy way out for him.
He obviously knew he was going up a deadend ,same as his shit run last year was comming with no idea how to get out of it on the park. Can’t wait to hear what Crags has to say about him n his shite tactics now hes away Crags can tell it like it is.

[Stuwell2]

Weekly SK has held interviews with the club media and the press where he’s talked about many things but this week he’s been very quiet. I do think it would be helpful to hear from him but that doesn’t seem likely at the moment.
Possibly he’s just getting his head around what’s happened, needs time to process things, has a bout of depression or is just sitting back watching it all with a smile on his face.

We don’t know and hopefully it’s not depression that he’s suffering from. 

[wellsince75]

He’s likely to be working out a settlement and keeping quiet .

my view is his ego was taking a bit of a beating. The stats are clear , he did a very decent job point wise over his tenure but despite his best efforts and being 5th fans were vocal . 

he probably thought crikey if the fans aren’t with me now , what will it get like if we slump back to 9th . 

There’s not many jobs or sports where fans behave and can say what they do in the terraces . Can you imagine if he was a tennis player and being called out for being a f’ing clown  
 

it’s not getting worse per say but society is changing and what was previously acceptable no longer is.

 

hes made his exit and will be back before long . Suspect his old club will snap him up 

 

[wellgirl]

49 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

Ah soon be Dr wellgirl phd well done you 👍

If only 🤣 - doing another BA because I'm getting it funded (Im really not academic enough to do a PhD ) but contemplating a Masters - going to take a year off when I finish and decide. 

Im just about to write part of my sociology essay on Motherwell fc - there will be wars if I don't get top marks.

Thank you 

 

 

[wellgirl]

13 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

He’s likely to be working out a settlement and keeping quiet .

my view is his ego was taking a bit of a beating. The stats are clear , he did a very decent job point wise over his tenure but despite his best efforts and being 5th fans were vocal . 

he probably thought crikey if the fans aren’t with me now , what will it get like if we slump back to 9th . 

There’s not many jobs or sports where fans behave and can say what they do in the terraces . Can you imagine if he was a tennis player and being called out for being a f’ing clown  
 

it’s not getting worse per say but society is changing and what was previously acceptable no longer is.

 

hes made his exit and will be back before long . Suspect his old club will snap him up 

 

Do you think theres a vacancy for him there just now? 

[wellsince75]

4 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Do you think theres a vacancy for him there just now? 

No , pure hypothesis on my part . I don’t think that’s why he left . 
 

but 

they are second bottom of the league and if this was to continue I could see them reaching out and trying to snap him up .

Given he turned our fortunes around season 1 they must be at least thinking about it . 

[smiddy]

57 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

He’s likely to be working out a settlement and keeping quiet .

my view is his ego was taking a bit of a beating. The stats are clear , he did a very decent job point wise over his tenure but despite his best efforts and being 5th fans were vocal . 

he probably thought crikey if the fans aren’t with me now , what will it get like if we slump back to 9th . 

There’s not many jobs or sports where fans behave and can say what they do in the terraces . Can you imagine if he was a tennis player and being called out for being a f’ing clown  
 

it’s not getting worse per say but society is changing and what was previously acceptable no longer is.

 

hes made his exit and will be back before long . Suspect his old club will snap him up 

 

Working out a settlement ?

he chucked it !  No settlement dur he walked away, thats my take on it 

[Pepper]

1 hour ago, smiddy said:

2.30 will be good they are askin the pundits what they think,

craggs will be good , he had all the stats on SK Last week 

It was going quite well until Billy Dodds continued to peddle he myth that Kettlewell resigned because of abuse aimed at his family. 

Derek Ferguson also seems to think it must have been abuse from well fans located in the main stand, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. 

Neither statement challenged. 

At least the message that whatever it was must have been from a minority of fans (as absolutely no one knows what the abuse actually entailed) is finally being addressed. 

[mfc]

5 minutes ago, smiddy said:

Working out a settlement ?

he chucked it !  No settlement dur he walked away, thats my take on it 

Exactly he deserves nothing but the way the club have acted the last few days I wouldn't be surprised if we have been daft enough and paid him his contract.

[smiddy]

Just now, Pepper said:

It was going quite well until Billy Dodds continued to peddle he myth that Kettlewell resigned because of abuse aimed at his family. 

Derek Ferguson also seems to think it must have been abuse from well fans located in the main stand, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. 

Neither statement challenged. 

At least the message that whatever it was must have been from a minority of fans (as absolutely no one knows what the abuse actually entailed) is finally being addressed. 

Craggs not on today but worth tuning inn early morra as he will be on, and last week he was quite vocal so i would imagine hees had 5 days to add to his info 

[smiddy]

2 minutes ago, mfc said:

Exactly he deserves nothing but the way the club have acted the last few days I wouldn't be surprised if we have been daft enough and paid him his contract.

Then we will see it in the club accs, unless there accountant hides it under

another outgoing time, will tell, but if they have then there will be questions to be asked,  if your due nothing, then you get nothing 

 

[wellon]

1 hour ago, Pepper said:

It was going quite well until Billy Dodds continued to peddle he myth that Kettlewell resigned because of abuse aimed at his family. 

Derek Ferguson also seems to think it must have been abuse from well fans located in the main stand, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. 

Neither statement challenged. 

At least the message that whatever it was must have been from a minority of fans (as absolutely no one knows what the abuse actually entailed) is finally being addressed. 

Tam mentioned a very small minority,  a " pocket" I think , he said, so quite specific