wellsince75 Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Formations/performances/people out of position are getting worse. We're a team that ship simple goals whilst offering nothing in attack. 1 shot at goal again, at home. Each week passes looks less likely that the manager will turn it around. His credibility/stock value has crumbled. 3 months ago our basics were superb - players were average but we were well drilled. That's gone out the window. A huge turnaround in approach is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 right stuart,,, no more media speak shite, do your job or git tae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 10:24 PM, wellfan said: Dead man walking. Expand I repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Right, line has been drawn. Get back to basics. Play players in their natural position, and trust those who are yet to get a proper chance in the team. They cant be any worse than those playing just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Blaming the players and taking zero responsibility on Radio Scotland. Hopefully his final interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 5:30 PM, steelboy said: Blaming the players and taking zero responsibility on Radio Scotland. Hopefully his final interview. Expand We have moved into the bizarre team selections out of desperation now blaming the players,that's two of the tell tale signs a manager is on the brink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 5:35 PM, mfc said: We have moved into the bizarre team selections out of desperation now blaming the players,that's two of the tell tale signs a manager is on the brink. Expand Thats what the St Johnstone managers last interview sounded like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Remember folk clamouring for the board to extend his contract 7/8 weeks ago. I don't necessarily think sacking him is the answer. However in any other situation , after Celtic next, 2 points from 30 would see any manager sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilmour Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 5:35 PM, mfc said: We have moved into the bizarre team selections out of desperation now blaming the players,that's two of the tell tale signs a manager is on the brink. Expand That and Mugabi up front. Utter desperation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 5:35 PM, mfc said: We have moved into the bizarre team selections out of desperation now blaming the players,that's two of the tell tale signs a manager is on the brink. Expand Bevis up front usually means the manager is on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellup83 Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 5:30 PM, steelboy said: Blaming the players and taking zero responsibility on Radio Scotland. Hopefully his final interview. Expand Even you know that's not true. I listened myself. Kettlewell can't be held 100% responsible when a defender is beat in the air and when his no 1 goalkeeper is a complete shitebag in his own 6 yard box. At no time did he avoid responsibly. Hearts bossed us from the first kick to the last. Played simple but effective passes in what was a very good performance from them by their own fans admission on Radio Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:02 PM, steelboy said: Bevis up front usually means the manager is on the way out. Expand No problems with that for last 2 or 3 mins,he did more than Olly bloody Shaw.......losing 3 of the last 4 goals direct from corners is a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:14 PM, Great Balls of Shire said: No problems with that for last 2 or 3 mins,he did more than Olly bloody Shaw.......losing 3 of the last 4 goals direct from corners is a problem Expand Hearts are and should be a better team than us but if we defend set pieces properly we could nick a draw and even win the odd game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dossertillidie2 Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Including Celtic coming up no wins in 10 games, 2 points from 30 his own team from the summer other managers sacked for less and having had far less backing time to get tae and time to empty half the squad in Jan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 After Celtic we’ve got Dundee at home then Ross County away. We need six points at most or four points at least from those two games. But you just can’t trust us to get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintymac Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 I’ve been a supporter of Kettlewell and he saved us last season and deserves great credit for that . Start of this season we we’re decent although that came about as a result of a half time substitution brining on Paton into a four in midfield and one striker . The first chink in the Kettlewell regime came at St Mirren park in the cup. Think if I remember correctly we had the LB injured and he totally re jigged the back line and it didn’t work . Fast forward to today and that result was a 100% on kettlewell . Don’t know where to start but playing Spittal a kinda LWB was a shocker . The 3 striker thing was a complete disaster and that’s where the game was lost . IMO he completely overthinks things when he’s looking for solutions . It was as if he’s thinking I need to win today so let’s play 3 strikers . Then he changes it up . Bear hooked two up front and Spencer to RWB and Gent to LWB and guess what the long ball game calmed down and we started to get crosses in from Spittal Gent and Spencer . So as I say the blame for that loss today completely down to the manager but then again what would I or many fans know !!!. He has to to stop overanalysing and blethering so much about tactics as it’s clouding his judgement . Get it sorted Stuart as this is looking incredibly like the Alexander and Hammel ish fiascos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:25 PM, Mintymac said: I’ve been a supporter of Kettlewell and he saved us last season and deserves great credit for that . Expand As I've said previously, it’s now obvious that it was primarily KVV who saved us last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:29 PM, wellfan said: As I've said previously, it’s now obvious that it was primarily KVV who saved us last season. Expand The same KvV who only looked interested after the Kettle was on the boil? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:33 PM, Mad Dog said: The same KvV who only looked interested after the Kettle was on the boil? Expand Sorry, but how many goals did Kettlewell score again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:34 PM, wellfan said: Sorry, but how many goals did Kettlewell score again? Expand Again? Didn't realise that the question had already been asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:34 PM, wellfan said: Sorry, but how many goals did Kettlewell score again? Expand How many goals does any manager score? If you're going to blame Kettlewell for the current team playing so badly, he has to get some credit for the way things picked up last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Would be harsh not to give SK credit for when he came in. He did the obvious things that eluded others. Playing with 3 centre halves, 2 wing backs. Getting shape into the team. Playing with a strike partner. Since closed season he shipped out a lot and has brought in dross but we started the season well, kept a simple shape and did the simple things well. Since September it's gone from being close against the OF to just being poor, lost the plot with formations and lost the plot with playing players out of position. Today was such an obvious choice to play the 3-5-2 that pivots to a 5-3-2. Spencer/Gent as wingbacks. SK like many previous gaffers need to show he has a plan B and can get teams out of the brown stuff rather than going deeper into oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dossertillidie2 Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:40 PM, wellsince75 said: Would be harsh not to give SK credit for when he came in. He did the obvious things that eluded others. Playing with 3 centre halves, 2 wing backs. Getting shape into the team. Playing with a strike partner. Since closed season he shipped out a lot and has brought in dross but we started the season well, kept a simple shape and did the simple things well. Since September it's gone from being close against the OF to just being poor, lost the plot with formations and lost the plot with playing players out of position. Today was such an obvious choice to play the 3-5-2 that pivots to a 5-3-2. Spencer/Gent as wingbacks. SK like many previous gaffers need to show he has a plan B and can get teams out of the brown stuff rather than going deeper into oblivion. Expand Playing with a strike partner was what saved us. KVV showed under hammell he couldn’t play up top on his own. No coincidence once he had someone in jan to play alongside and we signed two decent CH in butcher and Casey that we were safe Not replacing KVV with a player out the 4/5 he’s signed up front that could even score half what KVV did is going to be our demise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 6:40 PM, bobbybingo said: How many goals does any manager score? If you're going to blame Kettlewell for the current team playing so badly, he has to get some credit for the way things picked up last season. Expand Incorrect. I didn’t blame anyone. I made a point about KVV scoring a lot of goals, which saved our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 7:01 PM, wellfan said: Incorrect. I didn’t blame anyone. I made a point about KVV scoring a lot of goals, which saved our season. Expand Fair enough, obviously you don't hold him responsible for our current problems. But do you credit him in any way for last season's turnaround, or was it just down to one guy scoring goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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