steelboy Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 2 hours ago, MelvinBragg said: Tom Aldred wasn't wanted at Bury. Scott McDonald had one foot on the boat back to Australia. Kipre was second choice of the trialists. We've got the best out of any number of players that didn't fit in anywhere else. Is he a sure thing? Nope, but I'm struggling to remember the last 'sure thing' we signed.. We have signed strikers with better pedigree in recent memory. KVV, Cole, Watt, Lang even Long. It's not a position we should be gambling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, steelboy said: We have signed strikers with better pedigree in recent memory. KVV, Cole, Watt, Lang even Long. It's not a position we should be gambling on. If you know of any strikers in our price range that are a guaranteed 20 goals a season then you should speak up. If you know of any strikers outside of our price range that are guaranteed 20 goals a season you should become an agent - although I wouldn't tell any prospective clients about your posting history where you were telling people Higdon was fat and useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Mio Krivokapic said: Think Wilkinson is used to such a cut throat approach 😉 Damn! Why did I not think of that!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 59 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Why do people still engage with him? It's all a pantomime act ,he works as a motivational coach in the real world. Oh no it isn't............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, grizzlyg said: Damn! Why did I not think of that!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Lol! I totally missed that in the original post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 8 hours ago, steelboy said: 3 league goals last season. 1 versus Salford. 1 versus Gillingham. 1 versus Doncaster. Hardly reasonable. 3-7-12-5-12 is reasonable for us in terms of bringing someone in. 6 out of the last 7 seasons we've not had someone in double figures for league goals, so he's statistically better than we've been as a club. Like I said time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 I see the youth player Jevan Beattie has signed for Sheffield United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 19 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: Just to be clear that's pretty much true of all Scots clubs bar 2 or maybe 4 at push. We're no exception. Completely , the power of the SPL & Scottish leagues is what I referred to. 5 clubs are ahead of us (Rangers/Celtic/Aberdeen/Hearts/Hibs) and have much bigger fan base, finances. This is why the supercomputer has us in 6th and the those mentioned above us. After that it's much of a muchness albeit we've been in the league for 40+ years. Long gone are the days of hearing we've signed anyone who we can be very excited about. Russell, Cooper, Coyne, Coyle etc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 4 hours ago, grizzlyg said: I will definitely give him a chance and hopefully everyone else will. Can just picture his first game....Booooo, rubbish.....get off.......(and that's just during the warm-up!!) Lol Steelboy leading the Boooos 😏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 4 hours ago, steelboy said: We have signed strikers with better pedigree in recent memory. KVV, Cole, Watt, Lang even Long. It's not a position we should be gambling on. You want to have a look at the goal records of Long, Cole and even Van Veen before they signed for Motherwell. Pedigree isn't the word that springs to mind. Even Watt's goal record hardly marked him as a good bet... Am I certain Wilkinson will be a success? No. But don't make out his record is that much worse than those you mentioned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 57 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: 3-7-12-5-12 is reasonable for us in terms of bringing someone in. 6 out of the last 7 seasons we've not had someone in double figures for league goals, so he's statistically better than we've been as a club. Like I said time will tell. That's not true is it. KVV and Devante Cole both hit double figures in the league. And Tony Watt had 9 by December in 2021. Moult had 9 by December 2018. So we had players scoring at a far better rate than that before we chose to sell them. In 19-20 Long had 7 and would probably have got to 10 if the league hadn't been called early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Our level is so weird that it's hard to predict how players from outside of Scotland will fare regardless of their history. If our top flight was immediately absorbed into the English leagues today based on their level, we'd probably have teams in each division. The style up here is it's own thing too, so sometimes it can undo good players (or known names at least), and others with less glamorous backgrounds can thrive. Wilkinson looks like a number 9, which was what we needed, and he has some moments in his highlight reel that remind me of KVVs. However, I'm a bit wary of the 6'3" guy stating that he's not a target man, which I hope is because he thinks he has more to his skill set, rather than that he can't hack the physical stuff. The recent long term injury is a concern, but he did get 20+ games last season, so maybe not as risky as Moult was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinnae-punt-it Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Who’s number 12 on the bottom right hand side of the first image posted on Twitter earlier today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, dinnae-punt-it said: Who’s number 12 on the bottom right hand side of the first image posted on Twitter earlier today: Paton, I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, dinnae-punt-it said: Who’s number 12 on the bottom right hand side of the first image posted on Twitter earlier today: Harry Paton. The bald spot is the clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinnae-punt-it Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Just now, wellfan said: Harry Paton. The bald spot is the clue. So it is, must be my crave of new signings that’s skewing my judgement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 While I’m interested in new signings. What is the position with the likes of Casey and Goss? I assume they are not in training with us? Are they basically free agents and considered not to be Motherwell players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 minute ago, texanwellfan said: While I’m interested in new signings. What is the position with the likes of Casey and Goss? I assume they are not in training with us? Are they basically free agents and considered not to be Motherwell players? Casey is apparently holding out to see if there's any offers from England and Goss is seemingly attracting interest from India according to the jungle drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, santheman said: Casey is apparently holding out to see if there's any offers from England and Goss is seemingly attracting interest from India according to the jungle drums. I wonder at what point (if any) do we write them off? While I’d like to see both stay, we have to know, sooner rather than later, if we need to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: I wonder at what point (if any) do we write them off? While I’d like to see both stay, we have to know, sooner rather than later, if we need to replace them. Well they're not training with us so they're not in our plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: I wonder at what point (if any) do we write them off? While I’d like to see both stay, we have to know, sooner rather than later, if we need to replace them. I'm told Casey is definitely away so I'm guessing we've wrote him off. Goss, I haven't heard anything but you have to assume he's gone unless he's doing a Scott McDonald for an extra long summer holiday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Mad Dog said: Well they're not training with us so they're not in our plans. But no official statement from the club announcing them as released or free agents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: But no official statement from the club announcing them as released or free agents? An update was given on 31 May. https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2023/05/31/end-of-2022-23-squad-update/ PLAYERS OUT OF CONTRACT- NEGOTIATIONS WITH A NUMBER OF PLAYERS ARE STILL TAKING PLACE Jake Carroll Logan Dunachie Daniel Hunter Kian Speirs Jack Aitchison Matty Connelly Max Johnston Ewan Wilson Dan Casey Dean Cornelius Sean Goss Mikael Mandron David Devine Corey O’Donnell Harry Paton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 Apparently, Bohemians have put in a better offer for Casey than we did, plus other Scottish clubs have been sniffing about, but his pref seems to be a club in England, according to Scott Burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, maz said: Apparently, Bohemians have put in a better offer for Casey than we did, plus other Scottish clubs have been sniffing about, but his pref seems to be a club in England, according to Scott Burns. Think the better offer can be easily discounted before usual suspects tell us we’re now being priced out of moves by League of Ireland outfits - Bohemians will be wanting him to bolster them mid-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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