MJC Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 7:52 PM, wellfan said: His record with the U21 squad was pretty good before stepping up to the first team. https://www.transfermarkt.com/jack-vale/profil/spieler/496660 Expand Which would suggest that he couldn’t cut it at first team level, or that’s what it looks like on paper anyway. Its uninspiring and to be honest I would have kept Wilkinson rather than sign this player but it is what it is and he’ll get my support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 7:59 PM, MJC said: Its uninspiring and to be honest I would have kept Wilkinson rather than sign this player but it is what it is and he’ll get my support. Expand Agreed, it's not the best signing on paper but things just work out for players at certain clubs, let's really hope this is one of those scenarios. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Made Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 Welcome to the Club Jack. Like others not to impressed with his goal return but you know if he only scores one goal and that keeps us up, he'll have god like status forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 If we don't sign a decent striker in the next 24 hours I think we will be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 7:59 PM, MJC said: Its uninspiring and to be honest I would have kept Wilkinson rather than sign this player but it is what it is and he’ll get my support. Expand I could be wrong, but didn't Wilkinson want away? It's not quite the case that we moved him on entirely of our own choice, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:03 PM, steelboy said: If we don't sign a decent striker in the next 24 hours I think we will be relegated. Expand I need attention post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 7:59 PM, MJC said: Which would suggest that he couldn’t cut it at first team level, or that’s what it looks like on paper anyway. Its uninspiring and to be honest I would have kept Wilkinson rather than sign this player but it is what it is and he’ll get my support. Expand The young player has the tools but also has everything to prove during this loan spell, which should hopefully benefit us. I'm trying to be positive about our situation for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:03 PM, Well-Made said: Welcome to the Club Jack. Like others not to impressed with his goal return but you know if he only scores one goal and that keeps us up, he'll have god like status forever. Expand The English Championship is the 6th richest league in the world, because he couldn't cut it in that doesn't mean a lot in our league 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:03 PM, steelboy said: If we don't sign a decent striker in the next 24 hours I think we will be relegated. Expand Every club in the country is looking for a decent striker. We cannot offer the deals that get proven goal scorers. We will always be taking a chance on someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:03 PM, steelboy said: If we don't sign a decent striker in the next 24 hours I think we will be relegated. Expand Could you clarify, are you speaking as a Motherwell, St Johnstone, Ross County or Livingston fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 7:47 PM, MJC said: Jack Vale confirmed. A forward, which we need but his goal scoring record is unimpressive, to say the very least. Expand It's worth bearing in mind that if his goalscoring record was impressive, we'd be nowhere near him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackscat Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 Fact is no one we sign now is going to impress on paper. Remember Moult signing, seen as 2nd choice to Wes Fletcher, I have to plead guilty to not being impressed at first, look how that turned out Heres hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:08 PM, David said: It's worth bearing in mind that if his goalscoring record was impressive, we'd be nowhere near him. Expand Exactly and he hasn't exactly played tons of games in his senior career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:04 PM, Great Balls of Shire said: I need attention post Expand I'm serious. We've kept 2 clean sheets in the past 24 games. Our defence is rank rotten and we don't seem to be adding anyone. Our striking options are Bair and Vale both of whom are poor players. As things stand our form is unlikely to change and thus squad won't win a playoff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:09 PM, steelboy said: I'm serious. We've kept 2 clean sheets in the past 24 games. Our defence is rank rotten and we don't seem to be adding anyone. Our striking options are Bair and Vale both of whom are poor players. As things stand our form is unlikely to change and thus squad won't win a playoff. Expand You mean our form that is the 7th best in the league over the last 6 games. https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/scottish-premiership/form-guide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:06 PM, FirParkCornerExile said: Every club in the country is looking for a decent striker. We cannot offer the deals that get proven goal scorers. We will always be taking a chance on someone. Expand Given that we freed up the wages of three strikers you would think we could afford someone a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 7:47 PM, steelboy said: Vale announced. Expand think i mentioned this weeks ago steelboy,,, hes gents pal, was asking opinions on us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:11 PM, FirParkCornerExile said: You mean our form that is the 7th best in the league over the last 6 games. Expand Don't be troubling people with facts now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 We were never bringing in anyone with a decent track record,it's a gamble and let's hope it's one that pays off for us.hes going to get the winner on saturday from a georgie gent cross,you heard it here first 😀. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:09 PM, steelboy said: I'm serious. We've kept 2 clean sheets in the past 24 games. Our defence is rank rotten and we don't seem to be adding anyone. Our striking options are Bair and Vale both of whom are poor players. As things stand our form is unlikely to change and thus squad won't win a playoff. Expand Bair's scoring more goals that anyone at our relegation rivals - he's no good. We sign someone who doesn't have a great goalscoring record - he's no good. Our current form is better than the teams below us, funnily enough, but if we did end up in a play-off, who would we face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:14 PM, mfc said: We were never bringing in anyone with a decent track record😀 Expand That's a safe bet when we have a manager who has never signed a good player in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real dosser Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:17 PM, steelboy said: That's a safe bet when we have a manager who has never signed a good player in his career. Expand Gent and Davor off the top of my head both garbage then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 I don't know what expectations some of our fans have. We've signed a promising youngster who's making his way in the game and some think we're doomed before we've even seen him. He might be a decent footballer who offers the team more than just his scoring stats. Equally he's young and may well be what we need. I don't remember Scott McDonald having amazing stats before we signed him. It's a tough window, always is. We got shot of players not cutting it, we've brought in the type of prospect we wanted. Looks pretty reasonable bit of business all things considered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 If you look closely at his stats, Vale only started five games for Lincoln and scored two goals. On at least three of his eleven sub league appearance, Lincoln City were down to ten men when he came on, or a minute after.. Do these stats mean he's any good? No, but it's context. More context than a simple 'he scored two in seventeen appearances for Lincoln, he must be shit'. As with most of our signings, we won't know til we see him play... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted January 31, 2024 Report Share Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/31/2024 at 8:09 PM, steelboy said: I'm serious. We've kept 2 clean sheets in the past 24 games. Our defence is rank rotten and we don't seem to be adding anyone. Our striking options are Bair and Vale both of whom are poor players. As things stand our form is unlikely to change and thus squad won't win a playoff. Expand So how do you know Vale is a poor player when you haven't even seen him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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