MJC Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Game was poor and so was your prediction... Yeah okay we didn’t lose. By the skin of our teeth. But I was right again about us not being able to win one game, never mind three. And given that we were at home against an equally poor Dundee side then you would hope that we could have picked up maximum points. Instead we just scraped one by scoring in the last seconds. We are in the same position now that we have been for the last three months. We can’t win football matches and therefore we are in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, AllyMax said: So basically, everyone we played under Kettlewell last season were pish, but they were all good when we played them under Hammell ? No but in his run of games he only played the Old Firm once each and the league was already over when we got the draw with Celtic. We didn't play Aberdeen who managed to get to 3rd because Hibs and Hearts melted down so badly. The league is far more competitive 3-12 at the moment and there are no easy games. The games last season were undoubtedly easier in terms of quality of opposition and teams not having a huge amount to play for in the final months of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 Has until St Mirren to turn this around then the board need to take a serious look at the situation. I shall say this I sure as shit don't trust him and Daws to get the players in January to sort this I have no idea what remit he gave to Daws in the summer but it was 100 percent was honking. it makes you think what sort of football he was wanting to play with the signings he has made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 SOD at the second goal is a joke. He's so shite but starts every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 That today was utter dogshite. All the draw does is paper over the cracks and delay the inevitable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, steelboy said: No but in his run of games he only played the Old Firm once each and the league was already over when we got the draw with Celtic. We didn't play Aberdeen who managed to get to 3rd because Hibs and Hearts melted down so badly. The league is far more competitive 3-12 at the moment and there are no easy games. The games last season were undoubtedly easier in terms of quality of opposition and teams not having a huge amount to play for in the final months of the season. Ok. But we beat Hibs and Hearts earlier this season and drew with Celtic again last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Spit_It_Out said: it makes you think what sort of football he was wanting to play with the signings he has made. He's built a team who physically aren't capable of pressing so we have to sit off and let teams play around us. We rely on playing on the counter through SOD who is fucking hopeless and Spittal who has no pace and can't pass the ball to save his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, texanwellfan said: So Paton out for Tuesday and Slattery back in? I’d start with Spencer on the right and Gent on the left. and id just book slattery now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: Ok. But we beat Hibs and Hearts earlier this season and drew with Celtic again last week. Aye we beat Hearts after they came back from Greece and Hibs under Lee Johnson. The next games will be tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, steelboy said: Aye we beat Hearts after they came back from Greece and Hibs under Lee Johnson. The next games will be tougher. Your argument seems to be that our wins against top 6 sides and bottom 6 sides last season don't really count, for one reason or another. Nor do our wins against anyone this season, again, for reasons you've decided render them meaningless. But every defeat or draw under Kettlewell proves his ineptitude. Sounds like there's nothing he could do to please you. Other than resign, obviously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, David said: Davies hasn't held a management position in almost ten years now. I'd imagine that at least part of the reason for that is his antics in his last job. The secret filming of journalists at Forest press conferences, blanket media bans, long-serving club staff sacked without explanation, his cousin and agent joining the club in a senior role after being suspended as a solicitor, arguing with photographers during games, and a five-game touchline ban imposed for using abusive language to a match official. He's pretty much not been considered for many jobs outside the Hearts one over five years ago I think. and forrest having to pay his wages for as long as he was on " garden leave " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, bobbybingo said: Your argument seems to be that our wins against top 6 sides and bottom 6 sides last season don't really count, for one reason or another. Nor do our wins against anyone this season, again, for reasons you've decided render them meaningless. But every defeat or draw under Kettlewell proves his ineptitude. Sounds like there's nothing he could do to please you. Other than resign, obviously. He should resign for the current run. I don't see how this is controversial. It's obviously an advantage to play Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen after away Euro qualifiers rather than when they are settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, steelboy said: He's built a team who physically aren't capable of pressing so we have to sit off and let teams play around us. We rely on playing on the counter through SOD who is fucking hopeless and Spittal who has no pace and can't pass the ball to save his life. Joint third most assists in the league for Spittal must have hit his shin with his eyes shut. SOD I agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, wunderwell said: Joint third most assists in the league for Spittal must have hit his shin with his eyes shut. SOD I agree with you Look at their first goal before the corner. We are in a good position to counter and he passes straight to their player. He does make some nice passes in tight spaces but there are far too many times when his bottle crashes on the simple pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, steelboy said: He should resign for the current run. I don't see how this is controversial. It's obviously an advantage to play Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen after away Euro qualifiers rather than when they are settled. It's not controversial at all and as I said earlier, I can understand why folk want him away. But every time we win, you have a reason why it's not a meaningful win - they're shit, their manager's shit, they weren't really trying, they were tired. I've yet to see you offer a single excuse for our team losing a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, steelboy said: Look at their first goal before the corner. We are in a good position to counter and he passes straight to their player. He does make some nice passes in tight spaces but there are far too many times when his bottle crashes on the simple pass. For me SOD switches off and doesn’t really any much value . It’s poor that he’s had so many contract extensions. what frustrates me is Spencer was brought in to replace him and has been pushed to left back . just play Spencer in his natural position please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couttsy Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 At least we got a point, that’s the positives out the way! In fairness I thought SK picked the right team, however it was apparent half way through the first half that Dundee were being afforded far too much space (number 10 in particular) Didnt make it to Celtic park last week but Butcher in Midfield was horrible today, he sat too deep, didn’t pick up runners and was generally too slow. That position is a big problem with young Miller out. We deffo have more problems than solutions after today! Fair play to Wilkinson for keeping his composure and winning us a point. Particularly given he’d been terrible up until then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 4 hours ago, couttsy said: Have been firmly in the Kettlewell in camp, but that first half was tactically horrific. So so obvious even at 1-0 that it was just a matter of time before we lost goals. Giving up far too much possession at home against Dundee. Worrying times. Yes. We score then retreat into our own box with a 6 man defence and deep lying midfield. Despite that Dundee were easily able to play football unhindered in and around our box. Shocking formation. You'd think we were playing a top European side the respect we showed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 At times watching today I was thinking brutal , potentially 90 minutes wasted which I won’t get back On reflection happy with 3-3 draw with 10 men as could have been worse We really need 3 points badly or I think Kettlewell might be out of a job soon , I wouldn’t push the panic button just yet or no doubt we will end up with Richard Foster or David Clarkson in charge on an interim basis . One or two wins and they will be in the job full time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 We are unbeaten in 2 games so why all the panic? Seriously that point could be massive and I never saw it coming. Butcher is either centre defence or sub. He ain't centre mid. And Casey has went downhill so much in past few months. However........we are battling away and scrambling points so fight is there but yes we need wins. And finally we'll done to Oli Shaw for setting up the equaliser, now I don't rate him but at least I didn't boo him when he came on. Getting sick and tired of players being booed when they come on. Ye that is really going to help them. COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 We all need to keep the faith all this talk of sacking managers is nonsense we are unbeaten in our last 2 games, and another 2 or 3 wins and we will be challenging for a Euro spot, 15 games played still 23 to go so no need for any pant wetting just yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 …… or if you like only lost 1 of our last 4 games. But of course we do need to start picking up wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 And a big shout out today to the catering for my £3.30 steak pie. If I want my pie superglued to the foil tray I would have said.......not impressed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, grizzlyg said: And a big shout out today to the catering for my £3.30 steak pie. If I want my pie superglued to the foil tray I would have said.......not impressed Surely the glue is the best part? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Great build up for our first goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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