SteelmaninOZ Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Now we have to go that bit extra and take the 3 points. Hopefully we get a decent home crowd at Fir Park and get behind the team. COYW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 We've not scored a first half goal since early September and only scored twice in the first half all season. One of them was against Dundee in the opening game of the season. We need out the traps early, get ahead and take 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Hopefully the confidence gained from yesterday can inspire the lads to a massive 3pts as it's a vital week with Ross County away the following Tuesday then St Johnstone the following Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 A different mindset from yesterday will be required for this one. It'll be up to us to go out and force play, battle for possession and use the ball wisely. A huge test for SK. Not bothered in the least if we score an early goal so long as we score at least one more than Dundee. A 93rd minute opener for us would do nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Hopefully the confidence gained from yesterday can inspire the lads to a massive 3pts as it's a vital week with Ross County away the following Tuesday then St Johnstone the following Saturday 3 games that could easily define our season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: 3 games that could easily define our season Spot on. I'm looking for a minimum of 6 points here. Irrespective of Board action or inaction, SK's position needs to be clarified by the results. The worst possible outcome is an "adequate" return from these games i.e. something akin to a win and a draw or a win, or 3 draws. That just perpetuates uncertainty We need to enter the New Year as a unified, settled outfit and one with a clear idea of the way ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 We have to win this one, no two ways about it. It would really help our cause if we could actually score first as opposed to having to chase the game and giving ourselves a mountain to climb. Obika and Biereth should both start as long as they are fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Totally agree that this next period will be season defining. Good points return from the next 4 games and we go into the Rangers game, and indeed the New Year, with confidence and buy ourselves some breathing space at the bottom of the table. Poor return and the Celtic game looks like a blip in an otherwise downward trajectory, the pressure mounts and the board have a decision to make prior to the January window. I think 8 points would be more than respectable from the 4 games. 2 home wins and 2 away draws would do nicely. This being the first home game therefore becomes massive for us. Hoping for a similar structure to the Celtic game but with some tweaks in personnel to get us on the front foot. Ive defended SOD on here for long and weary, and I dont think he has done anything to deserve to be dropped (more than anyone else at least) but we really need the width and dynamism that Gent and Spencer would provide in their natural positions. Whether we would still need 4 in midfield in that formation or try Obika up top with Biereth, is up for question, but Id like to see it given a go. Id start....... Kelly Casey Butcher Blaney Spencer Gent Slattery Paton Spittal Biereth Obika Try and get goals up early doors and use SOD and Mugabi in the "Celtic" formation, to shore things up defensively when the legs start to go up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said: Id start....... Kelly Casey Butcher Blaney Spencer Gent Slattery Paton Spittal Biereth Obika Try and get goals up early doors and use SOD and Mugabi in the "Celtic" formation, to shore things up defensively when the legs start to go up top. this is generally the shape I'd go with. Biggest concern is the 3 across the midfield really are weak as a collective. Overall there's a few variations of who could play where (Butcher, SOD, Mugabi, Davor etc) but it needs to be this or a very old fashioned 4-4-2 in the next 3 games where we go out on the offensive, get ahead win and cheer us all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just heard, ahead of the Dundee game VAR has already awarded the pre-emptive booking for Slattery. He must be closing in on his personal ambition/points tally for suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, wellsince75 said: Just heard, ahead of the Dundee game VAR has already awarded the pre-emptive booking for Slattery. He must be closing in on his personal ambition/points tally for suspension. A suspension for Christmas is the dream 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 We are much more solid in defence with Mugabi playing. For me Slattery drops out from Saturday to bring in Obika. If we have our usual unproductive first half then get Gent on for SOD at HT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Anyone actually at Saturdays game shed any light on how Butcher played in midfield? Is it something worth pursuing with? Mugabi certainly gives us an aerial advantage in defence that we dont really have without him. I wouldnt be averse to keeping him there if Butcher was the protective influence in midfield we need. That being the case you could keep the diamond with Slattery, Paton and Spittal, or drop one of them to play Obika...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Anyone actually at Saturdays game shed any light on how Butcher played in midfield? Is it something worth pursuing with? Mugabi certainly gives us an aerial advantage in defence that we dont really have without him. I wouldnt be averse to keeping him there if Butcher was the protective influence in midfield we need. That being the case you could keep the diamond with Slattery, Paton and Spittal, or drop one of them to play Obika...... Personal view is we were stronger with Butcher in midfield - albeit all the team ended up very deep in the last 2 months teams have carved straight through our midfield . Slattery and Spittal are ok moving forward but weak defensively . Butcher in the holding role made it tough to play through us . butcher added a bit of bite and for now I think better off on midfield. We need 4 in midfield when we play spittal and slattery . I think one needs dropped if we continue to play the 3-5-2 / 5-3-2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 play what ever numbers you like 442, 352,532 640, or wtf ever JUST FECKIN WIN end of 😡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Versus Dundee at home then surely we have to play more than one up top? Obika and Mika? 3-5-2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergie79 Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 18 hours ago, ropy said: A suspension for Christmas is the dream He is suspended for this Dundee game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Fergie79 said: He is suspended for this Dundee game ‘Callum Slattery will serve his one match suspension after the midfielder picked up his sixth booking against Celtic.’ Odd, suspensions usually kick in 2 weeks after the accumulation of sufficient cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, ropy said: ‘Callum Slattery will serve his one match suspension after the midfielder picked up his sixth booking against Celtic.’ Odd, suspensions usually kick in 2 weeks after the accumulation of sufficient cards. He's on a VIP fast track for repeat customers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 How long is McGinn out for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Fergie79 said: He is suspended for this Dundee game If Davor doesn't get some decent game time now that Miller and Slattery are both out, you’d imagine he'd be looking at his options come January as there is no way a guy used to starting games is gonna sit on the bench for another 1.5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, wellfan said: If Davor doesn't get some decent game time now that Miller and Slattery are both out, you’d imagine he'd be looking at his options come January as there is no way a guy used to starting games is gonna sit on the bench for another 1.5 years. Assume the manager just doesn't rate him. He looked reasonably neat/tidy defensive midfield type player. I'd have liked to see him have a run of games to see ,he's international so must have something to offer. If deemed not good enough then another shameful signing. Suspect Butcher will remain in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, ropy said: Odd, suspensions usually kick in 2 weeks after the accumulation of sufficient cards. A bit of transparency from the SFA wouldn't go amiss. Did they not use to publish details but this was deliberately stopped. Why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: A bit of transparency from the SFA wouldn't go amiss. Did they not use to publish details but this was deliberately stopped. Why? They still do, it’s just hopelessly out of date, here is the latest one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 Looks like Slattery has an outstanding 1 match suspension to serve in the Scottish Cup too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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