smiddy Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 does aybody think sk has the baws to drop our captain ???we dont know how good big ox is, but we didnt know how good wee davor was, tell kelly were RESTING him, tell the ox hees got 6 games to settle in and lets get on with it he cant be that bad,,, and all the kelly pant wetters just take a minute and think how many times heez deserved to be dropped and wasnt , well his time has come as it comes to everybody,,,,,, dont thimk sk has got the big bawz but we shall oh by the way, nearly hame and STILL FUCKIN RAGIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanzeypopz Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Mortonhallwell said: You really think we could beat PT (assuming they get through) after tonight? Very doubtful. Yes, We arent the worst team in the league or scotland. There are worse clubs than us, Morton again are on an unbeaten run and didnt play a game through the week like we did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, smiddy said: does aybody think sk has the baws to drop our captain ???we dont know how good big ox is, but we didnt know how good wee davor was, tell kelly were RESTING him, tell the ox hees got 6 games to settle in and lets get on with it he cant be that bad,,, and all the kelly pant wetters just take a minute and think how many times heez deserved to be dropped and wasnt , well his time has come as it comes to everybody,,,,,, dont thimk sk has got the big bawz but we shall see oh by the way, nearly hame and STILL FUCKIN RAGIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanzeypopz Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, smiddy said: See this could go 2 ways, Yes we could bring in someone new and improve or we could end up with a proper donkey who gets us relagated like Dundee United keeper did last season. Cant remember his name but he had like 8 shockers in the run up to the end of the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 If we take anything from tonight it should be that we must avoid finishing in the relegation play off spot,we couldn't be trusted to beat a morton or partick thistle over two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, smiddy said: does aybody think sk has the baws to drop our captain ???we dont know how good big ox is, but we didnt know how good wee davor was, tell kelly were RESTING him, tell the ox hees got 6 games to settle in and lets get on with it he cant be that bad,,, and all the kelly pant wetters just take a minute and think how many times heez deserved to be dropped and wasnt , well his time has come as it comes to everybody,,,,,, dont thimk sk has got the big bawz but we shall oh by the way, nearly hame and STILL FUCKIN RAGIN I understand you are upset. I am too and for what it's worth I don't think Kelly should have the armband and yes maybe he needs dropping but it's clear he's lost confidence. I'm not a Liam Kelly pant wetter either. He's human. As are the rest of the players. We move on and hopefully we learn from this and kick on up the table. This was always going to be a tough tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dossertillidie2 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Manager takes as long to answer a question as he does a substitution in those interviews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Chanzeypopz said: See this could go 2 ways, Yes we could bring in someone new and improve or we could end up with a proper donkey who gets us relagated like Dundee United keeper did last season. Cant remember his name but he had like 8 shockers in the run up to the end of the season well chanzeypopz only time will tell, do you think he should every week, dispitethe fact heez scared of cross balls into our box, his nerves are shot, and his general play looks terrible, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, smiddy said: well chanzeypopz only time will tell, do you think he should every week, dispitethe fact heez scared of cross balls into our box, his nerves are shot, and his general play looks terrible, I feel really sorry for Kelly and he's far from my favourite player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dossertillidie2 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 12 minutes ago, smiddy said: does aybody think sk has the baws to drop our captain ???we dont know how good big ox is, but we didnt know how good wee davor was, tell kelly were RESTING him, tell the ox hees got 6 games to settle in and lets get on with it he cant be that bad,,, and all the kelly pant wetters just take a minute and think how many times heez deserved to be dropped and wasnt , well his time has come as it comes to everybody,,,,,, dont thimk sk has got the big bawz but we shall oh by the way, nearly hame and STILL FUCKIN RAGIN From what I have been told OX is worse than kelly. Which prob explains why he has never had a look in under the last 2 managers. i hope not though as it’s time for a change between the sticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, mfc said: If we take anything from tonight it should be that we must avoid finishing in the relegation play off spot,we couldn't be trusted to beat a morton or partick thistle over two games. To be fair you always get upsets in the cup. It goes with the territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Replacing your keeper is a big call. Not sure that a gamble of that nature is worth taking right now. Liam Kelly has, by and large, been decent for us and probably deserves some loyalty and time to find some form and confidence. Having said that, our patience with regard to his form is not without limit and he must be aware of this. The pressure on him is mounting. Another reason why your goalkeeper should not be captain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wellgirl Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, The African said: Replacing your keeper is a big call. Not sure that a gamble of that nature is worth taking right now. Liam Kelly has, by and large, been decent for us and probably deserves some loyalty and time to find some form and confidence. Having said that, our patience with regard to his form is not without limit and he must be aware of this. The pressure on him is mounting. Another reason why your goalkeeper should not be captain? I personally think his form dipped badly and then was starting to pick up again. Im not sure being captain is getting to him. I would prefer he wasn't captain though. Give it to Halliday or a similarly experienced player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I understand you are upset. I am too and for what it's worth I don't think Kelly should have the armband and yes maybe he needs dropping but it's clear he's lost confidence. I'm not a Liam Kelly pant wetter either. He's human. As are the rest of the players. We move on and hopefully we learn from this and kick on up the table. This was always going to be a tough tie. yes wellgirl, we will move on , but i beleive a spell on the bench .might well make him stronger mentally. then he may well come back in with his confidence back up, and end the season well, but i dont think the manager will drop him,personally when his contract is up in the summer i would say thanks liam watch that door doesnt hit your erse on the way out , seriously there must be a better or as good as a keeper out there for the money hes allegedly on we can discuss this all night but the fact is people on here will defend him to the hilt, but if hees 3rd choice scotland keeper (not in my opinion ) then he should be dealing with these situations, thats probs another reason sk wont drop him, incase it puts his scotland career oot the window, anyway nuff said bout him , time will tell, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, Dossertillidie2 said: From what I have been told OX is worse than kelly. Which prob explains why he has never had a look in under the last 2 managers. i hope not though as it’s time for a change between the sticks seconded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortonhallwell Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I feel really sorry for Kelly and he's far from my favourite player Kelly is one of our highest earners, if not the highest earner, and our captain. That brings certain expectations and responsibilities which he is unable to fulfill. He should be leading by example, not conceding poor goals and generally being ineffective . If ever there was a time to drop him it's now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Just now, smiddy said: yes wellgirl, we will move on , but i beleive a spell on the bench .might well make him stronger mentally. then he may well come back in with his confidence back up, and end the season well, but i dont think the manager will drop him,personally when his contract is up in the summer i would say thanks liam watch that door doesnt hit your erse on the way out , seriously there must be a better or as good as a keeper out there for the money hes allegedly on we can discuss this all night but the fact is people on here will defend him to the hilt, but if hees 3rd choice scotland keeper (not in my opinion ) then he should be dealing with these situations, thats probs another reason sk wont drop him, incase it puts his scotland career oot the window, anyway nuff said bout him , time will tell, thank you I do agree that that the money we are paying him could possibly be spent better elsewhere. But unless we are sure Aston is better than him we need Kelly and thats that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: To be fair you always get upsets in the cup. It goes with the territory. Exactly,to be honest I'm not surprised one bit we lost tonight,away from home to a side on a good run,the ingredients were there for an upset.the fear for me is that we could quite easily repeat two performances like that in a play off.i know I'm getting a little ahead of myself there but let's hope we dont end up in that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellup83 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Kelly looked visibly nervous from the off. From the ball he dropped in the first 5 to the calamity that was the first goal. Having seen his body language week in week out this season he looks like a very anxious character at times. I genuinely believe he needs to be taken out of the spotlight for his own good. As for the captaincy, to me it's just an armband. It might be a cliché but you should have 11 captains on the pitch. Or at least least a solid spine of leaders from back to front to build around. I could see from the first 10 minutes that this wasn't the game for Miller, he plays the silky kind of football that's only suited to good surfaces and he struggled to get involved from the start. That game required grafters and we didn't have enough at our disposal simple as that. On a positive note, Jack Vale looks like he could be a find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Just now, Mortonhallwell said: Kelly is one of our highest earners, if not the highest earner, and our captain. That brings certain expectations and responsibilities which he is unable to fulfill. He should be leading by example, not conceding poor goals and generally being ineffective . If ever there was a time to drop him it's now. Hes clearly lost confidence. That was apparent months ago. We just need to be sure Aston will do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welly Machine Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 It's a sore one but we have all been here before. As soon as things look like improving, a result and performance like tonight happens. We were sucked in to playing the game Morton wanted and very rarely moved away from that. A Morton team that included 2 ex 'Well players that, no harm to them, proved to be not good enough for us. I doubt if any of them are, even Oakley albeit he played well tonight. Obviously there are questions to be asked of some who are wearing claret and amber. We were poor but let's make sure we stay up and take at look at things at the end of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couttsy Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Oh man, another tough one to take. Pathetic 1st half performance, coupled with another gift of a goal. Played like we expected to just turn up and roll them over, was never going to be the case with the run they’ve been on. Bemused by the lack of subs at half time, could have taken just about anyone off, however O’Donnell and Miller should have been hooked imo, O’Donnell was terrible and Miller look very rusty. We then end up throwing subs on in a very unorganised way, completely losing any shape. Frustrating they weren’t very good either, just more committed and better organised. Vale the only bright spark on very dark night again for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 SK Post match interview. "I never seen this coming, the performance, the result". Well every single fan did and that's why the cameras were there because the BBC did as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said: The gaffer says 5 minutes 21 seconds to basically say we were fuckin bullied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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