StAndrew7 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 12 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: https://x.com/Record_Sport/status/1793195908487684322 Barry Maguire being linked with Hamilton, according to Scott Burns. Captain, leader, two footed legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 55 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Yup I agree, not convinced Bair will be as prolific next season and if he is then teams will get him cheaper as 1 Yr left of contract. However if we can get him to sign year extension I would be tempted to keep him. Regarding next goalie I would happily take a loan goalie for a season. Has worked for us before and it also didn't do killie and st mirren harm this season Bair scored 1 goal in his last 6 games and that was a penalty so the idea that he might not be as prolific next season is valid until disproved. For goalie can I throw in the name of Kevin Dabrowski. He's been excellent for Raith Rovers this season. He's got a year left on his contract at Hibs and spent all this season out on loan. Hibs will have a new manager who might want to bring in his own players. Think it's worth a shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 On the Kelly subject he’s played for us for a bit im not convinced he was the worst but far from the best. I don’t think it’s a position we should have much trouble covering. We need a defence and a midfield however. I do hope that Kettlewell signs some wide attackers as well I sometimes think we need to change our shape up or at least give ourselves the option to change it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan97 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, Throughthelaces said: On the Kelly subject he’s played for us for a bit im not convinced he was the worst but far from the best. I don’t think it’s a position we should have much trouble covering. We need a defence and a midfield however. I do hope that Kettlewell signs some wide attackers as well I sometimes think we need to change our shape up or at least give ourselves the option to change it up. If it's true we're signing Easton from Raith I know he can play out wide and through the middle not sure if we're rumoured with any other attacking players though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 12 minutes ago, Throughthelaces said: I do hope that Kettlewell signs some wide attackers as well I sometimes think we need to change our shape up or at least give ourselves the option to change it up. Absolutely this. It's clear there was no Plan B last season and I guess that comes from him being so wedded to the 3-4-2-1 / 3-5-2 / 5-3-2 system with (eleventy billion) wing backs. There absolutely must be a different style/formation for us to play next year, otherwise we'll be found out and teams will know the exact recipe required to nullify us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 That's Kelly been named in Steve Clarkes provisional squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 10 minutes ago, wellgirl said: That's Kelly been named in Steve Clarkes provisional squad. Kelly or Gordon must be one of the two getting cut. Johnston didn't make it, and Turnbull's career is going from strength to strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 21 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: Kelly or Gordon must be one of the two getting cut. Johnston didn't make it, and Turnbull's career is going from strength to strength. Unless Clark, Gunn or Gordon are kidnapped, Kelly will be dropped. I'm disappointed that Johnston didn't at least make the provisional squad, but it was obvious that Clarke would choose Ralston and McCrorie ahead of him. It's a shame about Turnbull, who's done nothing since joining Cardiff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 8 minutes ago, wellfan said: Unless Clark, Gunn or Gordon are kidnapped, Kelly will be dropped. I'm disappointed that Johnston didn't at least make the provisional squad, but it was obvious that Clarke would choose Ralston and McCrorie ahead of him. It's a shame about Turnbull, who's done nothing since joining Cardiff. Yeah, Turnbull's a mystery. I'd have bet money on him being a Scotland regular by now, but it just isn't happening for him. Postecoglou, Rodgers and Clarke obviously had doubts/issues with him and he's settled into the same sub or subbed routine at Cardiff, but without the goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 39 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: Yeah, Turnbull's a mystery. I'd have bet money on him being a Scotland regular by now, but it just isn't happening for him. Postecoglou, Rodgers and Clarke obviously had doubts/issues with him and he's settled into the same sub or subbed routine at Cardiff, but without the goals. Get him back on loan along with Campbell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 3 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Get him back on loan along with Campbell Don't think we would have a hope of landing either of them to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Don't think we would have a hope of landing either of them to be honest. Probably not but it’s a nice dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 15 hours ago, wellgirl said: I also personally think that clean sheets don't matter that much. Livi Ross County and St Johnstone had more clean sheets than us but we finished higher. And Kelly was outstanding for us in a couple of big games. When we beat Rangers and the draw at Parkhead. His clean sheet stats were much better for us in previous seasons. So clearly the dip in form for the defence must have contributed. "Clean sheets don't matter that much" Of course they do, thats quite an odd thing to say 🤒 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 17 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Get him back on loan along with Campbell Another guy who needs to kick start his career. Just hope it's not back in Scotland at one of the usual suspects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 1 minute ago, bobbybingo said: Another guy who needs to kick start his career. Just hope it's not back in Scotland at one of the usual suspects. Yep. Was doing well by all accounts then new manager comes in and it’s downhill from there. Must have been a sickner to have played such an important part in promotion and then never get the chance to play in the EPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 31 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: "Clean sheets don't matter that much" Of course they do, thats quite an odd thing to say 🤒 I did put my post in context that other teams with more clean sheets than us finished lower down the table including Livi who were relegated. I was also responding to someone else's post who was talking about our poor defence. Which has been underperforming as has Kelly In that context I dont think they matter that much - if other people don't agree that's completely fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Yep. Was doing well by all accounts then new manager comes in and it’s downhill from there. Must have been a sickner to have played such an important part in promotion and then never get the chance to play in the EPL And to add insult, getting sent out on loan to Millwall and left to rot there, despite hardly getting a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I did put my post in context that other teams with more clean sheets than us finished lower down the table including Livi who were relegated. In that context I dont think they matter that much - if other people don't agree that's completely fine. There's also the question of our defence - which has been underperforming as has Kelly. The context isn't great either If we get clean sheets we get more points, its that simple really If we score the amount of goals we did this season AND get more clean sheets we generate at least a top 6 finish. All hypothetical I know but clean sheets obviously matter, even in the context you articulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, bobbybingo said: Yeah, Turnbull's a mystery. I'd have bet money on him being a Scotland regular by now, but it just isn't happening for him. Postecoglou, Rodgers and Clarke obviously had doubts/issues with him and he's settled into the same sub or subbed routine at Cardiff, but without the goals. Maybe they all thought he's just not as good as we think he is, apart from earning loads of Cash his career since he left us has been distinctly underwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Maybe they all thought he's just not as good as we think he is, apart from earning loads of Cash his career since he left us has been distinctly underwhelming. That's a distinct possibility. On paper his time at Celtic was a success, winning 6 medals, but I think most folk expected more from him. Another underwhelming season next year and you would start to wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Maybe they all thought he's just not as good as we think he is, apart from earning loads of Cash his career since he left us has been distinctly underwhelming. That's a distinct possibility. On paper his time at Celtic was a success, winning 6 medals, but I think most folk expected more from him. Another underwhelming season next year and you would start to wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 5 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Maybe they all thought he's just not as good as we think he is, apart from earning loads of Cash his career since he left us has been distinctly underwhelming. Totally agree with you. He was a big fish in a small pond with us but has just blended into the grey when paired with a better calibre of player Shame really as I hoped he would have progressed and it appeared he had the talent to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 8 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: The context isn't great either If we get clean sheets we get more points, its that simple really If we score the amount of goals we did this season AND get more clean sheets we generate at least a top 6 finish. All hypothetical I know but clean sheets obviously matter, even in the context you articulated. Well it was the number of draws that killed us so in that respect you are completely right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 3 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: That's a distinct possibility. On paper his time at Celtic was a success, winning 6 medals, but I think most folk expected more from him. Another underwhelming season next year and you would start to wonder. Perhaps the step up was too much in hindsight. Maybe not at the beginning but it was clear his form dipped. I suppose the fact that theres a lot of quality at Celtic and more competition doesn't help. Whereas he would stroll into our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 7 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Perhaps the step up was too much in hindsight. Maybe not at the beginning but it was clear his form dipped. I suppose the fact that theres a lot of quality at Celtic and more competition doesn't help. Whereas he would stroll into our team. Aye, maybe we expect too much from these boys. Far too good for us, but not good enough for the very top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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